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Malaki Starks-S-Georgia

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:


Those are some Sean Taylor clone numbers for sure. Would be great if it was Gabriel Taylor putting up those numbers.


I've read that some scouts have him as S #1

Winston is my favorite Safety in this draft but I liked Emmanwori, Stark and Watts. It's a loaded class for good Safeties.
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Just because you are big and fast at Safety doesn't mean you are the best one. Just because you are an athletic freak. See Taylor Mays. Starks is still the best one.

So you haven't watched Nick Emmanwori is what you're saying?

Guys like Derwin James and Eric Berry were big a fast and guess what they we're good. There are other good S in this draft class if folks are so hell bent on drafting one. Xavier Watts is good. I like Mukuba's coverage skills. Billy Bowman Jr Has some Tyrann Mathieu to his game.

Starks is better but SF needs to fix the DL

Eric Berry big. You sure about that?

Wasn't he like 6-2 215lbs with long ass arms? Damn near the same size as James no?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Winston is my favorite Safety in this draft but I liked Emmanwori, Stark and Watts. It's a loaded class for good Safeties.

Yes! I'm a fan as well.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Just because you are big and fast at Safety doesn't mean you are the best one. Just because you are an athletic freak. See Taylor Mays. Starks is still the best one.

So you haven't watched Nick Emmanwori is what you're saying?

Guys like Derwin James and Eric Berry were big a fast and guess what they we're good. There are other good S in this draft class if folks are so hell bent on drafting one. Xavier Watts is good. I like Mukuba's coverage skills. Billy Bowman Jr Has some Tyrann Mathieu to his game.

Starks is better but SF needs to fix the DL

Eric Berry big. You sure about that?

Wasn't he like 6-2 215lbs with long ass arms? Damn near the same size as James no?

6' 200ish. He did have long arms, an extreme fear of horses and instincts out the ass. The one thing that measurements can't measure is instincts and it seems to be the most important trait of Safeties recently. I'm not getting attached to a safety until Andre Cisco is signed somewhere else.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Just because you are big and fast at Safety doesn't mean you are the best one. Just because you are an athletic freak. See Taylor Mays. Starks is still the best one.

So you haven't watched Nick Emmanwori is what you're saying?

Guys like Derwin James and Eric Berry were big a fast and guess what they we're good. There are other good S in this draft class if folks are so hell bent on drafting one. Xavier Watts is good. I like Mukuba's coverage skills. Billy Bowman Jr Has some Tyrann Mathieu to his game.

Starks is better but SF needs to fix the DL

Eric Berry big. You sure about that?

Wasn't he like 6-2 215lbs with long ass arms? Damn near the same size as James no?

6' 200ish. He did have long arms, an extreme fear of horses and instincts out the ass. The one thing that measurements can't measure is instincts and it seems to be the most important trait of Safeties recently. I'm not getting attached to a safety until Andre Cisco is signed somewhere else.

You can't teach instincts. Hufanga isn't huge and doesn't hav egreat speed but he'sbeen able to play well when healthy because of his instincts. Ronnie Lott was physical but his instincts made him great. I once saw him run all the wat across the field because he saw a receiver getting free down the opposirte sideline. He got there just in time to bat the pass away. That was instinct and awareness. Some players are so intent on discipline that they forget to use their instincts.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
6' 200ish. He did have long arms, an extreme fear of horses and instincts out the ass. The one thing that measurements can't measure is instincts and it seems to be the most important trait of Safeties recently. I'm not getting attached to a safety until Andre Cisco is signed somewhere else.

Combine says was 6-1 211lbs. Solid for a S. Yeah I remember you being a big Cisco guy.

for me I'd rather go in another direction at 11 than S
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
6' 200ish. He did have long arms, an extreme fear of horses and instincts out the ass. The one thing that measurements can't measure is instincts and it seems to be the most important trait of Safeties recently. I'm not getting attached to a safety until Andre Cisco is signed somewhere else.

Combine says was 6-1 211lbs. Solid for a S. Yeah I remember you being a big Cisco guy.

for me I'd rather go in another direction at 11 than S

Same. But it's before Free Agency we always fill immediate holes in FA to open up the ability to take BPA but if we go into the draft with Brown as a starter then I think that would be a giant sign Starks is our target.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Same. But it's before Free Agency we always fill immediate holes in FA to open up the ability to take BPA but if we go into the draft with Brown as a starter then I think that would be a giant sign Starks is our target.

Cisco is a FA so we will see. Julian Blackmon Is another guy I could see as a FA add (Gus Bradley connection) neither would break the bank.

I wouldn't be shocked if they're not done with Brown.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Same. But it's before Free Agency we always fill immediate holes in FA to open up the ability to take BPA but if we go into the draft with Brown as a starter then I think that would be a giant sign Starks is our target.

Cisco is a FA so we will see. Julian Blackmon Is another guy I could see as a FA add (Gus Bradley connection) neither would break the bank.

I wouldn't be shocked if they're not done with Brown.

Unfortunate truth
Brown was a "gold helmet" guy for them, was he not?
Those are Taylor Mays numbers!!!
Originally posted by Murphys1:
Those are Taylor Mays numbers!!!

He can actually play S though
Originally posted by Murphys1:
Those are Taylor Mays numbers!!!

I don't want another Taylor Mays. Be careful with big, straight line fast, workout warrior Safety's. Who can't change direction. Be very, very careful with this pick.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
The Eagles are overwhelming up front (not 2022 level but still elite) with a great playcaller. Are we going to get to that level in an offseaaon? I don't see how you can go wrong with a day 1 starter that checks every box and can excel in every role as a safety. It also won't stop us from double dipping at DT and getting a guard on day 2. With that said, I hope we can trade back and still get Starks. So many quality talent will be available, so if we can get another pick in the top 100, I'm thinking that's another immediate contributor.

The eagles built the trenches and that's how they overwhelmed KC (and everyone else). They didn't spend top 10 picks on safeties.

there's a reason they don't get drafted high and they don't cost as much as other positions. I mean should we take Tetairoa McMillan if he's there at 11? Ashton Jeanty?

It's not like I dislike Starks or don't think he would be a good piece for this D. IMO it's not as impactful of a position compared to the DL and that's where our issues are.

If folks what to add to the S room go sign someone or draft someone else later. Niners need to be using those higher end picks on impactful positions of need imo.

The Eagles haven't just drafted in the trenches. Their picks have produced. We have drafted in the trenches as well. We have drafted in the trenches more than Philly in terms of 1st round picks. Philly does have us beat in pure volume. But again, their picks have produced. Ours have not and thus here we are. Given that the the draft is so deep at DT, you can go there twice on day 2 and again on day 3 and walk away with two immediate starters as well as a contributor. Any of the safeties drafted later are not day 1,plug and play 3 down defenders. We can still get a DT that can start in the second. Then considering Ji'Ayir Brown is a net negative on defense, we can potentially have an elite secondary.

Now the Eagles had those same guys last year and got smoked by the 49ers. And our bigger issue is run D,even though we aren't world beaters rushing the passer. Getting the weak link out the secondary would give our front 4 more time to work and eliminate a lot of the big plays against us. Taking Starks early won't stop us from fixing the IDL in this draft.

With all that said, there's like a 2% chance this regime goes in that direction lol. In a perfect world, Kenneth Grant falls to the 2nd or we move back into the first and take Grant. Then get Norman-Lott in the 3rd.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Same. But it's before Free Agency we always fill immediate holes in FA to open up the ability to take BPA but if we go into the draft with Brown as a starter then I think that would be a giant sign Starks is our target.

Cisco is a FA so we will see. Julian Blackmon Is another guy I could see as a FA add (Gus Bradley connection) neither would break the bank.

I wouldn't be shocked if they're not done with Brown.

Unfortunate truth

Im not against seeing how he bounces back. But I do not want to rely on him as a starter.
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