Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
When did Lynch say he wanted to go after Higgins?
If he did that would be tampering.
He didn't. Some random talk show guy (I think Lombardi) said Higgins in SF would be scary. Zero legs to SF wanting Higgins
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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
When did Lynch say he wanted to go after Higgins?
If he did that would be tampering.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm just trying to keep things realistic, it's not like going DL early would be some massive reach either. In an ideal world Graham is there or they move down and still get the DL (or OL) that they want and have more picks to navigate around to get the guys they want instead of taking whatever is there.
trenches need to be the priority to get s**t straight. Maybe it's fixed in FA, but I highly doubt that
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I think we will absolutely add a few guys in free agency.
We tried to fill those holes after we let Armstead leave. Elliot was supposed to be the run stopping NT that could penetrate, Collins was supposed to be the 3T to take on double teams next to Bosa and get pressure and Gross Matos was supposed to be the big end to set the edge and move inside to rush the passer in the nickle and Floyd was supposed to be the designated pass rusher.
None of those moves paid off for a variety of reasons mainly injuries. The Hargrave injury hit the hardest because it forced guys to play more than they should have.
All those 4 are in the last years of their deal and there are quite a few free agents available and we will have money to spend. The only guy I expect to be back is Floyd and he won't be playing the same role as a base and.
I think we sign at least 2, maybe 3 guys and draft at least 3 guys high.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:Exactly my thought. Johnson is a good prospect. This isnt a bad thing.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
I think it would be Lenoir. But Green would be CB3 with Demo outside in base
So we paid Lenior $89M to be primarily a NCB?
That's not a problem. Hardest position on defense.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm liking all the people connecting us with Asante Samuel Jr. I know you liked him coming out years back. If we had a Samuel and Lenoir base and Green coming in for nickel with Lenoir kicking inside that would be pretty damn good. Just gotta fix that glaring issue wearing 27
1000000%, but this draft is deep at safety (Plenty of FS with range and speed to compliment Mustapha).
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lenoir would go to the slot with Johnson and Green outside, that would be sick.
Yes sir! I love Ward but it sounds like he will move on with zero ill will and we all get it, but this isn't a bad alternative.
I think my point overall is while I like Johnson and I'm never against drafting good players, especially ones that will actually play a lot right off the bat…it's not really how they build a defense.
We all know the defense goes as the DL goes. I believe at one pt we had 7 1st rd guys on the DL (back in 2019). We NEED to be able to get to the QB rushing 4 to make this defense go.
We're not a team that plays a ton of man coverage, usually you spend those higher picks on guys that can get up on the LOS and lock down WRs in man.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
If we can sign a veteran WR, this is what I have in mind pre-combine in my trade back scenario. Once in the late 3rd round and have two DL and our G drafted we should get aggressive about saying yes to any trade backs to accumulate picks between 120-160 as long as close to fair value on the draft value chart.
#13. Traded to Cincy for #17, #81, #118, and a 2026 5th
#17. Traded to TB for #19 and #84
#19. Walter Nolen DL (If he is not there just sub in Green/Pearce Jr/Grant one will be there and if Green/Pearce just sub out Antwuan Powell-Ryland EDGE below with Darius Alexander DL or JJ Pegues DL)
#43. Donovan Jackson G (if he is not there sub in Wyatt Milum G. Otherwise here is where we go Princely EDGE and grab Ratledge G in the 3rd round)
#75. TJ Sanders DL
#81. Andrew Makuba S / Kevin Winston Jr S
#84. Traded with #255 to MIN for #97 and #140
#97. Traded to NE for #105 and #145
#99. Anthony Belton OT (will be our long-term LT for Trent in two years and plays RT for now)
#105. Ricky White WR
#112. Traded with #228 to GB for #123 and #160
#118. Terrence Ferguson TE
#123. Antwuan Powell-Ryland EDGE
#138. Demetrius Knight LB
#139. CJ West DL (We met with him - good chance we find a way to pick him)
#140. Jah Joyner EDGE (We met with him - good chance we find a way to pick him)
#145. Ty Robinson DL
#160. Jake Majors C
#189. Jacory Croskey-Merrit RB (we met with him)
I liken this draft I like the idea of bringing in four new studs at DL and two in the first three picks, as well as one of the top LG to replace Banks immediately. Throw Evan Anderson and DJ Jones into the mix and that's a great 6-man DL rotation with two new young edge rushers to supplement.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
If we can sign a veteran WR, this is what I have in mind pre-combine in my trade back scenario. Once in the late 3rd round and have two DL and our G drafted we should get aggressive about saying yes to any trade backs to accumulate picks between 120-160 as long as close to fair value on the draft value chart.
#13. Traded to Cincy for #17, #81, #118, and a 2026 5th
#17. Traded to TB for #19 and #84
#19. Walter Nolen DL (If he is not there just sub in Green/Pearce Jr/Grant one will be there and if Green/Pearce just sub out Antwuan Powell-Ryland EDGE below with Darius Alexander DL or JJ Pegues DL)
#43. Donovan Jackson G (if he is not there sub in Wyatt Milum G. Otherwise here is where we go Princely EDGE and grab Ratledge G in the 3rd round)
#75. TJ Sanders DL
#81. Andrew Makuba S / Kevin Winston Jr S
#84. Traded with #255 to MIN for #97 and #140
#97. Traded to NE for #105 and #145
#99. Anthony Belton OT (will be our long-term LT for Trent in two years and plays RT for now)
#105. Ricky White WR
#112. Traded with #228 to GB for #123 and #160
#118. Terrence Ferguson TE
#123. Antwuan Powell-Ryland EDGE
#138. Demetrius Knight LB
#139. CJ West DL (We met with him - good chance we find a way to pick him)
#140. Jah Joyner EDGE (We met with him - good chance we find a way to pick him)
#145. Ty Robinson DL
#160. Jake Majors C
#189. Jacory Croskey-Merrit RB (we met with him)
I liken this draft I like the idea of bringing in four new studs at DL and two in the first three picks, as well as one of the top LG to replace Banks immediately. Throw Evan Anderson and DJ Jones into the mix and that's a great 6-man DL rotation with two new young edge rushers to supplement.
They aren't gonna draft 14 players. They haven't drafted 14 (or more) players since 1978
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
If we can sign a veteran WR, this is what I have in mind pre-combine in my trade back scenario. Once in the late 3rd round and have two DL and our G drafted we should get aggressive about saying yes to any trade backs to accumulate picks between 120-160 as long as close to fair value on the draft value chart.
#13. Traded to Cincy for #17, #81, #118, and a 2026 5th
#17. Traded to TB for #19 and #84
#19. Walter Nolen DL (If he is not there just sub in Green/Pearce Jr/Grant one will be there and if Green/Pearce just sub out Antwuan Powell-Ryland EDGE below with Darius Alexander DL or JJ Pegues DL)
#43. Donovan Jackson G (if he is not there sub in Wyatt Milum G. Otherwise here is where we go Princely EDGE and grab Ratledge G in the 3rd round)
#75. TJ Sanders DL
#81. Andrew Makuba S / Kevin Winston Jr S
#84. Traded with #255 to MIN for #97 and #140
#97. Traded to NE for #105 and #145
#99. Anthony Belton OT (will be our long-term LT for Trent in two years and plays RT for now)
#105. Ricky White WR
#112. Traded with #228 to GB for #123 and #160
#118. Terrence Ferguson TE
#123. Antwuan Powell-Ryland EDGE
#138. Demetrius Knight LB
#139. CJ West DL (We met with him - good chance we find a way to pick him)
#140. Jah Joyner EDGE (We met with him - good chance we find a way to pick him)
#145. Ty Robinson DL
#160. Jake Majors C
#189. Jacory Croskey-Merrit RB (we met with him)
I liken this draft I like the idea of bringing in four new studs at DL and two in the first three picks, as well as one of the top LG to replace Banks immediately. Throw Evan Anderson and DJ Jones into the mix and that's a great 6-man DL rotation with two new young edge rushers to supplement.
They aren't gonna draft 14 players. They haven't drafted 14 (or more) players since 1978
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
So take out the last two picks and have them used instead to further help secure the other picks in a trade up etc.
Outside of the last pick we could use all of the other 13 players on this team. We are devoid of talent and depth in many places and need new injection of young talent on this team.
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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Looking over that roster it's still pretty deep and we have a pile of star players.
DLine: We are pretty deep with experienced players but most of them are quality depth/rotational guys. If we add 3 starting calibre linemen it pushes Floyd, YGM, Collins and Elliot down the depth chart.
LB- The linebacking group might be the weakest unit on the roster. Neither Winters or Bethune should be starters. We desperately need two starters there
Secondary- We need an upgrade at FS too and Brown can be a viable backup. And we have no-one at NB and no depth.
Current roster holes to fill on defense:
1- WILL LB
2- MIKE LB
3- Nickle CB
4- CB depth
Postitions to upgrade:
1- DT
2- NT
3- DE
4- FS
Then on offense we really only need an upgrade at LG and C as for starters. We need WR and RB depth, a TE2 and a swing tackle and backup G.
Positions to upgrade on offense:
1- C
2- LG
Depth / backups needed:
1- WR
2- OT
3- RB
4- TE
5- OG
Lynch and co. Have their work cut out for them.
Oh and we probably need a kicker.
Originally posted by genus49:
I'm super confused why you think we're good on the DL.
Collins is the only proven starter at DT and has 1 year left on his contract.
Floyd and YGM are 1 year guys as well and YGM may be a cap casualty.
All of the depth behind them are just that. I like a bunch of our guys but I don't trust any of them to start at DT or NT long term.
I trust Winters to start at LB over any of those DTs.