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Just the 40 but damn I thought he would have been faster than that

Originally posted by NYniner85:

agree we were never gonna see him run a 40

Above avg vert for a CB, abysmal short shuttle for a CB.

like Dane said good solid starter, the while Surtain 2.0 stuff was a bit much imo

Break 20 MPH here in what looks like a jog. Surely hes got 21 MPH in him.

[ Edited by scooterhd on Apr 14, 2025 at 11:23 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

agree we were never gonna see him run a 40

Above avg vert for a CB, abysmal short shuttle for a CB.

like Dane said good solid starter, the while Surtain 2.0 stuff was a bit much imo


hmmmmm. I mean he looks great on the field but that will raise some eyebrows.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

agree we were never gonna see him run a 40

Above avg vert for a CB, abysmal short shuttle for a CB.

like Dane said good solid starter, the while Surtain 2.0 stuff was a bit much imo


hmmmmm. I mean he looks great on the field but that will raise some eyebrows.

I'm leery of any player who will not run the 40 at a position that relies on speed. I think we got burnt drafting Michael Crabtree without him running the 40.
He looked much faster playing against college players, but when he got to the pros, he struggled to separate.
I realize this is a different time and they have the GPS stuff but still, if you're really fast, I would think you'd want to show it.
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

agree we were never gonna see him run a 40

Above avg vert for a CB, abysmal short shuttle for a CB.

like Dane said good solid starter, the while Surtain 2.0 stuff was a bit much imo


hmmmmm. I mean he looks great on the field but that will raise some eyebrows.

I'm leery of any player who will not run the 40 at a position that relies on speed. I think we got burnt drafting Michael Crabtree without him running the 40.
He looked much faster playing against college players, but when he got to the pros, he struggled to separate.
I realize this is a different time and they have the GPS stuff but still, if you're really fast, I would think you'd want to show it.

It's hard to know why players choose to not run certain drills. Maybe they just aren't prepared or they have a slight injury that they don't want to talk about. Most guys spend weeks preparing for the 40 and some even drop weight to record a good time. Most teams realize this and don't put a huge amount of stock in those times. If they see the weight loss then that could be a bigger issue. Then there's the difference between track speed and game speed. Sometimes it's a big difference.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Apr 14, 2025 at 11:41 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

agree we were never gonna see him run a 40

Above avg vert for a CB, abysmal short shuttle for a CB.

like Dane said good solid starter, the while Surtain 2.0 stuff was a bit much imo


hmmmmm. I mean he looks great on the field but that will raise some eyebrows.

I'm leery of any player who will not run the 40 at a position that relies on speed. I think we got burnt drafting Michael Crabtree without him running the 40.
He looked much faster playing against college players, but when he got to the pros, he struggled to separate.
I realize this is a different time and they have the GPS stuff but still, if you're really fast, I would think you'd want to show it.

It's hard to know why players choose to not run certain drills. Maybe they just aren't prepared or they have a slight injury that they don't want to talk about. Most guys spend weeks preparing for the 40 and some even drop weight to record a good time. Most teams realize this and don't put a huge amount of stock in those times. If they see the weight loss then that could be a bigger issue. Then there's the difference between track speed and game speed. Sometimes it's a big difference.

I think folks need to adjust their expectations though. Johnson was never gonna run a 40. His long speed and recovery speed have kinda always been a negative. People tossing out Surtain 2.0 weren't keeping it real.

like others have said, he's best as a zone coverage off man CB. Play with everything in front of him. Kinda like Sherm, without the length, elite tackling and with multiple lower-body injuries

I think he's a solid CB and will be a starter. I don't think there's a ton of upside or elite measurables that make you think he's got a ton of room to improve.
It's all coming together

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Turns out it was the area scout not coach K. Either way I'm a fan of this guy
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Turns out it was the area scout not coach K. Either way I'm a fan of this guy

yeah he responded in this tweet about that lol... but same...
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Turns out it was the area scout not coach K. Either way I'm a fan of this guy

yeah he responded in this tweet about that lol... but same...

What round is this guy expected to go in?
Originally posted by tankle104:
What round is this guy expected to go in?

4th if I had to guess.

Conyers is very interesting
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Conyers is very interesting

I thought Conyers was at 1st but I kept watching and watching he'll just be a wasted pick IMO
[ Edited by krizay on Apr 15, 2025 at 5:18 PM ]
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