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Caleb Williams QB USC Trojans

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
He's no doubt a #1 overall prospect. But I never bought the generational hype, and I still dont

Same. He has serious arm talent. But generational? I don't see it.

The media is just excited for another highly touted usc qb.

A lot of scouts doubt that. Mahomes is bigger and stronger and more accurate. I don't see generational talent. But no doubt he is good off schedule. How good can he be in the NFL? Who knows? We will find out. I don't think he's Mahomes though.

Bingo. The Russell Wilson's, Kyler Murray type is not generational anymore. I know you're not saying this but I am.

Right now I think he is better off schedule than on schedule. Certainly not as good as Mahomes at either. But he is a very good College player. No doubt about that.

No doubt very good college player but are they gonna let CW be who he is in the NFL (playing wise) I seriously doubt that.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
He's no doubt a #1 overall prospect. But I never bought the generational hype, and I still dont

Same. He has serious arm talent. But generational? I don't see it.

The media is just excited for another highly touted usc qb.

A lot of scouts doubt that. Mahomes is bigger and stronger and more accurate. I don't see generational talent. But no doubt he is good off schedule. How good can he be in the NFL? Who knows? We will find out. I don't think he's Mahomes though.

Bingo. The Russell Wilson's, Kyler Murray type is not generational anymore. I know you're not saying this but I am.

Right now I think he is better off schedule than on schedule. Certainly not as good as Mahomes at either. But he is a very good College player. No doubt about that.

The concern is he is going off script so often when he has a clean pocket for so long .

is he making it harder than it needs to be is the question
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
The concern is he is going off script so often when he has a clean pocket for so long .

is he making it harder than it needs to be is the question

Also his performance falls big time against quality D despite having star studded WR core
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
The concern is he is going off script so often when he has a clean pocket for so long .

is he making it harder than it needs to be is the question

Also his performance falls big time against quality D despite having star studded WR core

at this moment, as talented as he is, that offense is nothing but a BACKYARD FOOTBALL GAME..

..and up to this point, his arm and release reminds me of JEFF GEORGE..
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Is he even a lock to go #1 anymore?
Yes he is. Bet your lunch money on it. Today he threw for 369 yards and 2 tds and had to overcome that "loaded defense" that gave up 49 points and 527 yards to a terrible Cal team. Like I said in a previous post the USC defense is simply awful.

Just cause the defense is playing like s**t and the offense has a hard time sustaining drives, still doesn't mean the defense isn't stacked. They have 7 NFL draft prospects on defense, not to mention Tuli Tuipulotu (2nd round), Drake Jackson and Meki Blackmon (3rd round) when he won the Heisman. Now who did Mahomes have??
LOL The defense isnt stacked at all and blows. Give me a break. Seriously, do you even watch their games? They cant stop anybody. I dont care what the names are or who may get drafted. They are terrible and Williams and the offense has to score a ton of points to have a chance. 49 to fricking Cal. LOL

Still in denial, there's a difference between talent and performance. The 49ers are stacked and have talent all around on defense but they can't get off the field.

You understand now or are you gonna tell me the 49ers aren't stacked either??
Actually you are the one in denial. It doesnt mean crap what the so called talent is on defense. Reality is they are playing like s**t. Let me say it again. USC SUCKS ON DEFENSE and is the reason they have lost or barely won against an awful Cal team. Williams has played well and will still be the top pick whether you like it or not. LOL

Did Caleb Williams just started playing or something?? I could've sworn I listed past players on defense. Sure they suck now, but no denying Caleb Williams has had far more talent to back him up than what Mahomes had.
LOL. When did I ever compare Williams to Mahomes? Some dummies in here were saying they would take Purdy over Williams for goodness sake. The bottom line is Williams will most likely be the 1st pick in the draft and that the USC issues are because of the defense - not him.

You butted in the original argument, its not like I asked you.

Btw you sound like a homer, its the defense its not Caleb Williams. Lmfao.
Not a homer. I am someone who actually watches their games though. You must not if you think the USC Defense isnt the main reason for their problems this year. Just stupid to think otherwise. Its true that Williams isnt having as good of a year as last season when he was the obvious Heisman winner. But, I will bet you anything you want that he is the #1 pick in the draft. Name your price.

Dude throws 3 picks vs Notre Dame and you think the defense is the main problem. It's like you forget how this whole argument started.

And lol you'll bet me anything, how old are you, okay I bet you gazillion dollars, better yet infinity dollars that Caleb Williams isn't gonna be the first pick in the draft. How do you want your gazillion dollars if I lose, check or money order??
I trust Rubs. We can both send money to his account thru PayPal and he can send to the winner. $100?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
You butted in the original argument, its not like I asked you.

Btw you sound like a homer, its the defense its not Caleb Williams. Lmfao.
LOL at butting in . Not once did I ever compare Mahomes to Williams or even mention Mahomes name in here. I did laugh at people who said they would take Purdy over Williams though. Sorry for calling you a dummy since I looked back and saw that you were one of them.

Nah you just butted in when you got all bent outta shape when I said USC's defense is stacked. Then you go on and say that they're not. Then proceed to say it's all the defenses fault like homers actually do. lol

This whole argument started when I said, Mahomes carried Texas Tech and didn't have what Caleb Williams has (not exact words).
once again LOL at butting in on anything. I didnt know this was your private thread. LMAO. I never got bend out of shape when you said their defense was stacked. I simply said their defense was terrible which it is. Go find me the post where I said anything about future NFL picks or their potential. You wont. I just disagreed that they were "stacked" and still do.

You just dislike the kid even though he will clearly be the top pick of the draft where smarter people than you actually make the decisions. You were the one bent out of shape because of his comments. I never posted about those at all and in fact only made a comment when you and someone else said they would take Purdy over Williams. Which is super dumb because one has elite talent and the other doesnt.

Maybe you have me confused with another poster who said that Williams was a better prospect than Mahomes. Go look back at who actually said what.

You want some real dumb comments.... go back and look at the one comparing Jamarcus Russell to Williams. Or saying the list of "cant miss" USC QBs who have failed is "amazingly long"
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Nov 1, 2023 at 7:38 PM ]
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Is he even a lock to go #1 anymore?
Yes he is. Bet your lunch money on it. Today he threw for 369 yards and 2 tds and had to overcome that "loaded defense" that gave up 49 points and 527 yards to a terrible Cal team. Like I said in a previous post the USC defense is simply awful.

Just cause the defense is playing like s**t and the offense has a hard time sustaining drives, still doesn't mean the defense isn't stacked. They have 7 NFL draft prospects on defense, not to mention Tuli Tuipulotu (2nd round), Drake Jackson and Meki Blackmon (3rd round) when he won the Heisman. Now who did Mahomes have??
LOL The defense isnt stacked at all and blows. Give me a break. Seriously, do you even watch their games? They cant stop anybody. I dont care what the names are or who may get drafted. They are terrible and Williams and the offense has to score a ton of points to have a chance. 49 to fricking Cal. LOL

Still in denial, there's a difference between talent and performance. The 49ers are stacked and have talent all around on defense but they can't get off the field.

You understand now or are you gonna tell me the 49ers aren't stacked either??
Actually you are the one in denial. It doesnt mean crap what the so called talent is on defense. Reality is they are playing like s**t. Let me say it again. USC SUCKS ON DEFENSE and is the reason they have lost or barely won against an awful Cal team. Williams has played well and will still be the top pick whether you like it or not. LOL

Did Caleb Williams just started playing or something?? I could've sworn I listed past players on defense. Sure they suck now, but no denying Caleb Williams has had far more talent to back him up than what Mahomes had.
LOL. When did I ever compare Williams to Mahomes? Some dummies in here were saying they would take Purdy over Williams for goodness sake. The bottom line is Williams will most likely be the 1st pick in the draft and that the USC issues are because of the defense - not him.

You butted in the original argument, its not like I asked you.

Btw you sound like a homer, its the defense its not Caleb Williams. Lmfao.
Not a homer. I am someone who actually watches their games though. You must not if you think the USC Defense isnt the main reason for their problems this year. Just stupid to think otherwise. Its true that Williams isnt having as good of a year as last season when he was the obvious Heisman winner. But, I will bet you anything you want that he is the #1 pick in the draft. Name your price.

Dude throws 3 picks vs Notre Dame and you think the defense is the main problem. It's like you forget how this whole argument started.

And lol you'll bet me anything, how old are you, okay I bet you gazillion dollars, better yet infinity dollars that Caleb Williams isn't gonna be the first pick in the draft. How do you want your gazillion dollars if I lose, check or money order??
I trust Rubs. We can both send money to his account thru PayPal and he can send to the winner. $100?

Oh boy. Lol

Why the bet, did I say he wasn't gonna be a top 5 pick or 1st round pick somewhere??

All I said was its a hard pass for me, the kid has got some red flags. IMO
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
You butted in the original argument, its not like I asked you.

Btw you sound like a homer, its the defense its not Caleb Williams. Lmfao.
LOL at butting in . Not once did I ever compare Mahomes to Williams or even mention Mahomes name in here. I did laugh at people who said they would take Purdy over Williams though. Sorry for calling you a dummy since I looked back and saw that you were one of them.

Nah you just butted in when you got all bent outta shape when I said USC's defense is stacked. Then you go on and say that they're not. Then proceed to say it's all the defenses fault like homers actually do. lol

This whole argument started when I said, Mahomes carried Texas Tech and didn't have what Caleb Williams has (not exact words).
once again LOL at butting in on anything. I didnt know this was your private thread. LMAO. I never got bend out of shape when you said their defense was stacked. I simply said their defense was terrible which it is. Go find me the post where I said anything about future NFL picks or their potential. You wont. I just disagreed that they were "stacked" and still do.

You just dislike the kid even though he will clearly be the top pick of the draft where smarter people than you actually make the decisions. You were the one bent out of shape because of his comments. I never posted about those at all and in fact only made a comment when you and someone else said they would take Purdy over Williams. Which is super dumb because one has elite talent and the other doesnt.

Maybe you have me confused with another poster who said that Williams was a better prospect than Mahomes. Go look back at who actually said what.

You want some real dumb comments.... go back and look at the one comparing Jamarcus Russell to Williams. Or saying the list of "cant miss" USC QBs who have failed is "amazingly long"

Yah, you wanna talk about dumb comments do you....lmfao!!! Because every GM is always right and hits on all their picks. Gimme a break with that comment.

This whole b******t argument started because I said USC's defense was stacked and you disagreed. And you're taking this argument further than I care for with "Oh I bet you he'll be the first overall pick" lol who gives a s**t I don't care and that's not my argument. What I also said was "Hard pass for me" and I think he has red flags if the rumors are true. Here's a red flag for me that I didn't like about Caleb Williams, after the Utah game that he just sat there looking for pity then headed back to the locker room. A real professional would've gotten up and congratulated the other team as soon as it ended.
That stacked USC defense has given up 572 yards and 52 points at HOME!

Penix and Williams were both solid in this game but the difference was USC's inability to stop the run at all. 316 yards on the ground! Crazy.
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Nov 4, 2023 at 8:15 PM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Yah, you wanna talk about dumb comments do you....lmfao!!! Because every GM is always right and hits on all their picks. Gimme a break with that comment.

This whole b******t argument started because I said USC's defense was stacked and you disagreed. And you're taking this argument further than I care for with "Oh I bet you he'll be the first overall pick" lol who gives a s**t I don't care and that's not my argument. What I also said was "Hard pass for me" and I think he has red flags if the rumors are true. Here's a red flag for me that I didn't like about Caleb Williams, after the Utah game that he just sat there looking for pity then headed back to the locker room. A real professional would've gotten up and congratulated the other team as soon as it ended.
I didnt say every GM hits on all their picks. I simply said they are a lot smarter than you (and me) when it comes to making football decisions. Would you argue this point or do you think you would know more about Williams and other players than them?
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Nov 4, 2023 at 7:21 PM ]

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
That stacked USC defense has given up 572 yards and 52 points at HOME!

Penix and Williams were both solid in this game but the difference was USC's inability to stop the run at all. 316 yards on the ground! Crazy.

Steve Wilkes is moonlighting on Saturdays
3 losses for Caleb Willaims. LOL. Bounced from everything important already.

The one good thing about CW being a big a deal as he is, Jerry Rice's kid is getting looked at.

I want Rice, and as underused as he is...he might even be available. Not saying that as 49er homer either. Sure I only started watching him because of the CW coverage and the dude is Jerry's kid, but as a possible cheaper draft target....there is a lot to like there.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
The one good thing about CW being a big a deal as he is, Jerry Rice's kid is getting looked at.

I want Rice, and as underused as he is...he might even be available. Not saying that as 49er homer either. Sure I only started watching him because of the CW coverage and the dude is Jerry's kid, but as a possible cheaper draft target....there is a lot to like there.

You aren't lying. I'm high on both the 49ers legends kids and neither is looking like it will take high draft capital. We've got a boatload of day 3 picks. I'm trying not to be so emotionally involved in this.
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
That stacked USC defense has given up 572 yards and 52 points at HOME!

Penix and Williams were both solid in this game but the difference was USC's inability to stop the run at all. 316 yards on the ground! Crazy.

Again, talent and coaching or execution are different things. 49ers went from 2nd in run defense to 26th in run defense, are you gonna tell me it's a talent thing or a coaching thing??

And you're totally missing the point to this whole argument, your bias is carrying you away.

And you act like USC just played Hawaii at home, that was Michael Penix and #5 Washington schooling USC.
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