Nik Bonitto * EDGE * OU

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I agree with all of this...while I won't be upset if he's the pick. I don't see him as a 2nd rd guy (much prefer 3rd rd). Like you said way too 1-dimensional. He's a DPR guy and I'm with you I love a speed rush, but you gotta have some sort of speed to power. I like to see some violence in the hands and guys like him and Jackson don't really have that right now.

Vic Beasley is a good comp

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Depending on what happens with Adam Anderson's legal issues, Bonito is probably the most explosive and bendy speed rusher in the class. Doesn't have the size or length that you want. As far as his testing numbers, for edge I prioritize 10 yard split, vert and 3C. Absolutely elite 10, but just good but not elite vert and 3C. He is your traditional 34OLB but that doesn't really matter in today's day and age because he's gonna be a designated pass rusher, at least to start his career. Going on 23 to start the season, I don't think he has room to get too much bigger or stronger. Primarily wins (a lot in college) out of a 2-point stance as a stand up speed rusher. Explosion off the ball consistently puts tackles in a bad position almost immediately off the snap, where he can take advantage either around the edge dipping under the tackle with a dip+rip, or with an inside counter. In the games I watch, I don't see much speed to power if any at all, and while he attempts to use his hands (2 hand swipe is a go to), he lacks the strength to get off blocks if the tackle is able to land a solid punch or worse, engulf him with size/length. Not a ton of combo moves and so at this point, unless a team is wanting to drop him into coverage, I can't see him as a top 50 pick, he's too 1-dimensional as a rusher and can't see the field on all 3 downs. I am personally a fan of speed rushers, but they have to also have some speed to power (whereas technique can be taught), and I don't know if at his age and size if it'll ever happen for him. He might be Vic Beasley, he might be Hasaan Reddick.

I agree with all of this...while I won't be upset if he's the pick. I don't see him as a 2nd rd guy (much prefer 3rd rd). Like you said way too 1-dimensional. He's a DPR guy and I'm with you I love a speed rush, but you gotta have some sort of speed to power. I like to see some violence in the hands and guys like him and Jackson don't really have that right now.

Vic Beasley is a good comp

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Depending on what happens with Adam Anderson's legal issues, Bonito is probably the most explosive and bendy speed rusher in the class. Doesn't have the size or length that you want. As far as his testing numbers, for edge I prioritize 10 yard split, vert and 3C. Absolutely elite 10, but just good but not elite vert and 3C. He is your traditional 34OLB but that doesn't really matter in today's day and age because he's gonna be a designated pass rusher, at least to start his career. Going on 23 to start the season, I don't think he has room to get too much bigger or stronger. Primarily wins (a lot in college) out of a 2-point stance as a stand up speed rusher. Explosion off the ball consistently puts tackles in a bad position almost immediately off the snap, where he can take advantage either around the edge dipping under the tackle with a dip+rip, or with an inside counter. In the games I watch, I don't see much speed to power if any at all, and while he attempts to use his hands (2 hand swipe is a go to), he lacks the strength to get off blocks if the tackle is able to land a solid punch or worse, engulf him with size/length. Not a ton of combo moves and so at this point, unless a team is wanting to drop him into coverage, I can't see him as a top 50 pick, he's too 1-dimensional as a rusher and can't see the field on all 3 downs. I am personally a fan of speed rushers, but they have to also have some speed to power (whereas technique can be taught), and I don't know if at his age and size if it'll ever happen for him. He might be Vic Beasley, he might be Hasaan Reddick.

I agree with all of this...while I won't be upset if he's the pick. I don't see him as a 2nd rd guy (much prefer 3rd rd). Like you said way too 1-dimensional. He's a DPR guy and I'm with you I love a speed rush, but you gotta have some sort of speed to power. I like to see some violence in the hands and guys like him and Jackson don't really have that right now.

Vic Beasley is a good comp

Just because there's not much film of Nik going from speed to power doesn't mean he doesn't have it in his pass rushing arsenal. Every speed rusher has to have speed to power, it's the best counter to OT adjusting for the speed. You dont have to be that strong to go from speed to power, actually speed is the most important element of the speed to power pass rush move, using speed to catch the OT off balance when he turns his shoulders to chase the pass rusher is key.

Nik Bonitto is a classic stand up speed rusher - but like how he uses that to set up power late in the game here

day 2 prospect that should see the field as a rookie in a DPR role pic.twitter.com/CZ0kg5TNUi

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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
I didn't mind the Drake pick to be honest, I thought he would actually go before our first pick that's why I went with Bonitto, thought he would be available around where we pick, would be good value to get him at that spot but I Drake's value was more at #61.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
I didn't mind the Drake pick to be honest, I thought he would actually go before our first pick that's why I went with Bonitto, thought he would be available around where we pick, would be good value to get him at that spot but I Drake's value was more at #61.

Bonito is a 3-4 OLB

he is to undersized to play in a 4-3 DE role. We would have to be in the nickel packages for him to get the most use

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
I didn't mind the Drake pick to be honest, I thought he would actually go before our first pick that's why I went with Bonitto, thought he would be available around where we pick, would be good value to get him at that spot but I Drake's value was more at #61.

Bonito is a 3-4 OLB

he is to undersized to play in a 4-3 DE role. We would have to be in the nickel packages for him to get the most use

He couldn't play the Dee Ford roll of a wide 9 pass rusher complimenting Bosa?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
I didn't mind the Drake pick to be honest, I thought he would actually go before our first pick that's why I went with Bonitto, thought he would be available around where we pick, would be good value to get him at that spot but I Drake's value was more at #61.

Bonito is a 3-4 OLB

he is to undersized to play in a 4-3 DE role. We would have to be in the nickel packages for him to get the most use

He couldn't play the Dee Ford roll of a wide 9 pass rusher complimenting Bosa?

I think both guys will be DPR early in their career. Drake has more 3 down upside IMO.