Which of these trade down scenarios do you prefer?

NTeply49 · 2019-03-28T20:59:29-07:00

After analyzing the past few years draft day trades for a QB, such as the 2017 Bears-49ers, 2018 Jets-Colts, 2016 Titans-Rams, and the 2016 Eagles-Browns trades since they all involved the number 1 or 2 overall pick being traded down for a hefty return. Using this data, I have formed a few "dream" trade down scenarios that I don't think are too out of this world when you compare them to these past trades. Let's assume the Cardinals keep Rosen, and take anyone not named Haskins or Murray. You can see these trades I am referring to all listed here along with a nice article to compliment this thread https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/if-you-want-to-draft-a-qb-you-better-trade-up Trade Scenario #1 Oakland Raiders Gruden is in love with Murrays potential. He doesn't plan on picking this high again, and a once in a decade talent QB is within reach. In return for the 2nd overall pick, they offers us: Round 1 pick 4 Round 2 Pick 3 Round 5 Pick 2 2020 2nd Round pick Trade Scenario #2 New York Giants If the Giants want their pick of a QB and don't want any of the other quarterback hungry teams leapfrogging them, they need to make a move. It would be really cool to see Murray and Barkley in the backfield together for the next decade. Haskins seems more their style though, but either way, here is their offer. Round 1 Pick 6 Round 3 Pick 31 Round 5 Pick 10 2020 1st Round Pick 2021 3d Round Pick Trade Scenario #3 Denver Broncos Elway needs a franchise QB of the future. He's still in win now mode, but the Kansas City model of letting a young QB sit behind a veteran like Flaco seems like the safest way to maintain long term success. The Denver Broncos offer Round 1 Pick 10 Round 2 Pick 9 Round 4 Pick 23 2020 1st Round Pick 2020 4th Round Pick 2021 2nd Round Pick Trade Scenario #4 Cincinnati Bengals The Bengals go into full rebuild mode realizing they need to catch up to the Browns fast. They need a new QB, and decide to make us this outrageous offer. Round 1 Pick 11 WR A.J. Green Round 5 Pick 11 Round 6 Pick 27 2020 4th Round Pick Trade Scenario #5 Miami Dolphins They're not tanking after all, and make a move to try and change their franchise fortune. They offer us: Round 1 Pick 13 Round 3 Pick 13 Round 4 Pick 13 2020 1st Round Pick 2021 1st Round Pick 2020 4th Round Pick Trade Scenario #6 Washington Redskins Jay Gruden needs a long term solution at QB, unless we can turn Alex Smith into robocop, they need to find a replacement fast. They offer: Round 1 Pick 15 Round 2 Pick 14 Round 3 Pick 12 2020 1st Round Pick 2021 1st Round Pick 2020 4th Round Pick

Mar 28, 2019 at 10:39 PM

krizay
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I see scenario 1 happening. Though i think it might be for Bosa instead of Murray. Also wouldn't be surprised if the 2020 is a 3rd instead of 2nd.

In my opinion, the Raiders NEED to come away with Bosa or Allen after the Mack trade. Giving up less than they got for Mack will seem like a win.

Plus i believe we would rather Q. So similar to the Bears trade, we SHOULD still be in position to get the guy we want while adding assets.

Mar 28, 2019 at 10:54 PM

irishluder
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I picked Washington.... pray that Burns will be there, and love the fact that we would have 2 1st in the 2020 and 2021 drafts to shore up the OL and Secondary!

Mar 28, 2019 at 11:07 PM

49erBigMac
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Dolphins and Redskins are the best scenarios as both teams blow and those future 1st rounders could be top 5 picks, plus Trevor Lawrence makes having 2021 capital very valuable.

I would take either trade, or the Raiders one but only if Bosa was off the board.

Mar 28, 2019 at 11:22 PM

SanDiego49er
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Trading down and getting additional picks would be great for this team. We have lots of holes to fill. Gaining a 2nd round pick for next year would be great for the 49ers as we have lost our own. Scenario #1 would be great if we can get it. I'm not sure we can get it. But if we did it's easily worth it IMO. I would do that for sure.

Mar 28, 2019 at 11:38 PM

Furlow
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I like the Dolphins trade the best, but think the Raiders is most likely. Either way, only if Bosa is off the board.

Mar 29, 2019 at 1:50 AM

Ronnie49Lott
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Multiple scenarios that would make the Niners instantly better in the OP. Let's hope for one of those trades to take place. I in would be really happy for most any of them to happen.

[ Edited by Ronnie49Lott on Mar 29, 2019 at 2:02 AM ]

Mar 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM

eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by krizay:
I see scenario 1 happening. Though i think it might be for Bosa instead of Murray. Also wouldn't be surprised if the 2020 is a 3rd instead of 2nd.

In my opinion, the Raiders NEED to come away with Bosa or Allen after the Mack trade. Giving up less than they got for Mack will seem like a win.

Plus i believe we would rather Q. So similar to the Bears trade, we SHOULD still be in position to get the guy we want while adding assets.

If we want Q and the raiders trade up for Bosa, we aren't getting Q. No one is picking Josh Allen ahead of QW or Bosa. Suggesting Allen is a replacement for Mack as a pass rusher is laughable and if the Raiders want him, they can sit back at 4 and take him.

Mar 29, 2019 at 6:26 AM

kelson49er
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Giants scenario. Not sure if it's realistic, but we can still land someone like Burns while absolutely loading up this year and future years. Gotta still have an eye to 2020 and beyond. Keep in mind, the Giants will probably suck this year, so a 2020 first from them is gold.

[ Edited by kelson49er on Mar 29, 2019 at 6:27 AM ]

Mar 29, 2019 at 6:32 AM

mayo49
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Originally posted by kelson49er:
Giants scenario. Not sure if it's realistic, but we can still land someone like Burns while absolutely loading up this year and future years. Gotta still have an eye to 2020 and beyond. Keep in mind, the Giants will probably suck this year, so a 2020 first from them is gold.

Yeah, I'd go with the Giants scenario. Can still grab an ER at #6 and pick up some extra picks.

Mar 29, 2019 at 6:33 AM

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NYniner85
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I'm not moving out of the top 5 if I can help it....you should be able to get a future 1st and more with any team that plans to move up for a QB IMO.

I still want a blue chip prospect from this draft and that's not gonna happen moving down past the top 5 IMO. I do like Burns, but I don't know how much SF likes him. They seem to value strength/power.

That said just take Bosa if there and we can move on to RD 2

Give me edge/WR/S OL depth with those 6 picks and I'm golden this yr.

Mar 29, 2019 at 6:43 AM

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Quest4six
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I didn't suffer through a terrible season to trade back from the second pick
I want the second (or first) best player in this draft because of that

I'm not trading back from second unless I get something that i clearly can't pass on

In my opinion there are 3 can't miss players in this draft
1. Bosa
2. QW
3. Allen

Those are the only guys that I can see coming in and making an immediate impact while continuing to improve.
Unless I can trade back and still get one (not likely) I'm not moving

[ Edited by Quest4six on Mar 29, 2019 at 6:44 AM ]

Mar 29, 2019 at 6:47 AM

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danielrod1008
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Believe John Lynch's loyalty to John Elway allows for trade with Denver. They play in tough division aside from Raiders so 2020 and 2021 picks should be good. Would try to exchange this yrs 1st rd pick withcash strapped team like Vikings and possibly acquire DE. If not Brian Burns should still be available. Ending up with No 10 No 36 No 41 No 67 in first 3 rds isn't bad. DE WR safety and CB with those picks

[ Edited by danielrod1008 on Mar 29, 2019 at 6:51 AM ]

Mar 29, 2019 at 6:55 AM

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BuZzB05
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I would like to trade down at NY Giants #6 to grab at Brian Burns! My heart attack about grab to Brian Burns!!

I would like to trade down for Redskins but it is hard to get Brian Burns if Burns will be gone before 5 to 10 top?!?!

Mar 29, 2019 at 7:43 AM

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SammyFrancisco
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Wow, there's not a trade among those I wouldn't take and be ecstatic about it.
I'm partial to the AJ Green scenario. But getting 2 future firsts from WAS/MIA is absurdly good. Especially given both of those teams will likely have Top 5 picks next year.