The Cards self destruct, take QW #1. Do we go Bosa, or Allen?

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
How would we get pick #3, without trading away pick #2?

Our #1 in 2019 and 2020. MAybe throw in a #3.

It's a gamble, but with everyone healthy and allen and Bosa + FA help in the defensive backfield, we win 9-11 games, so our picks are further down the board.

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Still don't see how the cards hand us Bosa like that. Not happening.

This is.a good point. QW would improve the Cards more than Bosa, but then they would have to play against Bosa twice a year. Interesting dilemma for them.

Originally posted by Garoppolis:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
Still don't see how the cards hand us Bosa like that. Not happening.

This is.a good point. QW would improve the Cards more than Bosa, but then they would have to play against Bosa twice a year. Interesting dilemma for them.

They can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Cards will self-destruct by not taking a QB. They are never going anywhere with Josh Rosen.

Yeah, I've been saying it for a while now - Rosen is horrible and AZ is making a big mistake by not acknowledging it. This is their chance of getting a franchise QB - something Rosen is not.

Being here in Ohio, you should see the difference a Baker Mayfield makes to the fan base and franchise. The team finally has hope.

Originally posted by Garoppolis:
This is.a good point. QW would improve the Cards more than Bosa, but then they would have to play against Bosa twice a year. Interesting dilemma for them.

teams don't take players to stop other teams, that's a sure way to get fired.

You take the best player for your team and let others worry about you.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

How would we get pick #3, without trading away pick #2?

I remember in Madden you could acquire Picks #1-5 after some careful trading!

Originally posted by T-9ers:
Still don't see how the cards hand us Bosa like that. Not happening.

Because they care more about making their team better than whatever happens to SF

You're destined to be a loser if you care more about what other teams do/get vs actually making your team better. You can argue QW makes that team overall better than Bosa.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

How would we get pick #3, without trading away pick #2?

I remember in Madden you could acquire Picks #1-5 after some careful trading!

Lol..I remember my friend and I doing the math on those trades.

Bosa has had 2 season ending injuries so far so durability might be an issue. Trade down and pick up a player and an additional draft pick

Originally posted by danielrod1008:
Bosa has had 2 season ending injuries so far so durability might be an issue

It is an issue.

Originally posted by babarvaart:

Originally posted by Garoppolis:

This is.a good point. QW would improve the Cards more than Bosa, but then they would have to play against Bosa twice a year. Interesting dilemma for them.

teams don't take players to stop other teams, that's a sure way to get fired.

You take the best player for your team and let others worry about you.

Im not buying that Bosa isn't that guy for them. I think he's the ideal 1st pick for them. He will sell jerseys, put people in the seats, and elite de's are just more sought after. Not to say QW wouldn't do those things, but I'm looking at draft history and how the game has shifted(arguably for the worse), you don't see dt's, running backs, Sam linebackers going #1 anymore, but you guys know all that. The case for the cards not needing Bosa is a weak one at best. I mean who doesn't have room for the prototypical defensive end on their team?

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Im not buying that Bosa isn't that guy for them. I think he's the ideal 1st pick for them. He will sell jerseys, put people in the seats, and elite de's are just more sought after. Not to say QW wouldn't do those things, but I'm looking at draft history and how the game has shifted(arguably for the worse), you don't see dt's, running backs, Sam linebackers going #1 anymore, but you guys know all that. The case for the cards not needing Bosa is a weak one at best. I mean who doesn't have room for the prototypical defensive end on their team?

Everyone needs Bosa. But the Cards need everything else, besides RB. They also already have chandler Jones. If they believe in Murray, he can do far more for the franchise than Bosa.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

The Cards will self-destruct by not taking a QB. They are never going anywhere with Josh Rosen.

Yeah, I've been saying it for a while now - Rosen is horrible and AZ is making a big mistake by not acknowledging it. This is their chance of getting a franchise QB - something Rosen is not.

So, you both believe that Murray is a possibility at #1 or the pick at #1 if the Cards trade away Rosen?

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Cards will self-destruct by not taking a QB. They are never going anywhere with Josh Rosen.

Yeah, I've been saying it for a while now - Rosen is horrible and AZ is making a big mistake by not acknowledging it. This is their chance of getting a franchise QB - something Rosen is not.

So, you both believe that Murray is a possibility at #1 or the pick at #1 if the Cards trade away Rosen?

I think AZ is going to stick with Rosen and probably take Bosa.

Originally posted by T-9ers:
Im not buying that Bosa isn't that guy for them. I think he's the ideal 1st pick for them. He will sell jerseys, put people in the seats, and elite de's are just more sought after. Not to say QW wouldn't do those things, but I'm looking at draft history and how the game has shifted(arguably for the worse), you don't see dt's, running backs, Sam linebackers going #1 anymore, but you guys know all that. The case for the cards not needing Bosa is a weak one at best. I mean who doesn't have room for the prototypical defensive end on their team?

they may do but the argument is if AZ is building a better team they need QW more than NB, all depends how they grade the 2.