Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
I would argue the bolded is narrow minded.
We've had an issue at edge rusher for years now and it's been the thing that keeps us from closing out games in the end. You need those guys who know that when the QB has to throw the ball they can just pin their ears back and do what they do best. As good as say Aaron Donald is you don't want him having to close out the game for you. You want the guys on the outside. If you get the push up the middle that's an awesome added bonus. Why we traded for Houston. And if they decide to pass on Bosa im sure they would draft another edge. Not drafting bosa doesn't mean no edge
We already have the inside rusher with Buckner. Whether it's Thomas, Armstead, Day, Jones, etc on passing downs you don't need much if you have the DEs who can rush. We already have an outside rusher in Ford
It's not Bosa or bust...but at some point reality has to set in. You can keep saying its not bosa or bust but we know better
We're all assuming that the reason Bosa is there at #2 is because Kyler Murray goes #1. So who will a team be trading up for? I think it was you who said you'd have a team like Oakland trade up for Bosa and we wouldn't take one of their first round picks....how does that make any sense? Explained this numerous times if you haven't been able to comprehend to this point...
A team that f*cked us over in the Mack trade we should turn around and give up the opportunity to take the best edge player in the draft, a position we still VERY much have a HUGE hole at to take less than market value? So if NYG offers 6 and 17 after f'ing us in the OBJ trade we should just walk away?
Not only are you rewarding a rival team who just told you to f off less than a year earlier but you're setting an awful precedent that you're willing to take less on trades. Awful way of doing business. Whatevs been over this too
And maybe that makes sense to you because you think Bosa isn't that far ahead of the other guys...I disagree. Some guys may have more potential due to their athletic testing and physical tools but I've seen way too many monster athletes with scary physical tools never live up to their potential to want to give up a sure thing for the chance that one of these guys develop. Havent been paying attention to my arguments apparently just paying attention to the fact im making an argument against Bosa. Wheyher you agree with said argumentor not
Outside of Ferrell I don't think any of them start week 1 for us like Bosa can. And Ferrell has his own issues, he's got the longer arms and his overall game is solid but he's not even as athletic as Nick. There's a reason he's rarely mentioned in top 10 discussions. What a coincidence Ferrell (and QW) only other one ive been talking about. But you'd known that if you actually read my arguments instead of just worrying about no Bosa
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We traded for Ford but I'm sure it was a typo. That's 1 edge. I specifically mentioned needing two. And if we don't take Bosa it limits who you're getting. You seem to not understand that.
Trading down just to trade down is stupid. When you trade down you're gambling with who will be available. Whether you trade down to 4, 6 or somewhere else.
Even if you're looking at the board and think the teams in front of us if we trade down don't have a need at pass rusher doesn't mean they will stay there. They can trade with a team that does. They can simply think the pass rusher is too good to pass up. Don't forget Ford was taken by KC in the first round when they had Houston and Hali coming off double digit sack season.
Maybe your plan is to move down just to get some picks and get someone else...when you pick at #2 overall and a QB goes 1 you have all the control in the world. When you move down it's a gamble. Blink and you're looking at players who are way inferior to Nick Bosa and now what?
We've had a huge need at outside rusher for years, ever since Aldon decided to be a buffoon. Outside of QB it is the highest paid and highest impact position in the game. We're in position to take the best edge in a pretty good class and you want us to pass on that for below market trade value?
Were you around when we kept trading down for Rashaun Woods? How did that work out?
I'd like to think we won't be picking in the top 10 for a long time after this draft unless we get someone elses's first rounder.
It's like we're playing pocker and were dealt a KQJ109 straight flush and you want to take another card to see if you can catch the Ace for the royal. Don't over think it. Play the hand you're dealt because it's a damn good one and you're not likely to see it again for a while.
