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Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
For the sake of argument, who would be more valuable to the 49ers right now? Joey Bosa or Aaron Donald?

That's how I'm starting to view the Bosa v. Quinnen debate. Nick will be a very very good player (Joey Bosa), but maybe never elite (Mack, Miller) and may have chronic health issues. Quinnen may be truly elite, the best IDL in the league after Donald. But Edge is more valuable that IDL, especially given our roster...

Sweet back to football talk...

I get what you're trying to do but Quinnen is not Donald so the comparison isn't fair.

I think Quinnen is closer to Suh. Who had an impressive career at DT but nothing on the level of impact like Donald. The fact that we also have Buckner who is one of the top 3Ts in the game behind Donald and maybe a few other guys...QW as good as he is doesn't make as much sense.

The way I see it is Quinnen makes us better but still leaves a weakness on the roster that has to be addressed urgently.
Bosa makes us better and also helps everyone else fit at their best positions which in turn makes us a better overall team.

And since it's a team sport I'd rather have a player who maybe doesn't have as much potential at his current spot as the other guy but given the state of the roster makes us a better TEAM.

Yes. Bosa compliments DeFo/Ford better than QW would, imo. But that's all things being equal. I don't know enough to say who is the better player between QW and Bosa.
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Of course it matters!! This is the San Francisco 49ers for God's sake and not some southern team.

Bosa called Kap "a clown" and siding with Trump's ridiculous extreme far right views. You do remember he called all the players who knelt "sons of b*tches" and called for their firing right?

You also do realize our owner aka Jed York's stance on the matter right? First off, any 9ers player was allowed to kneel during the national anthem before the new policy. Secondly, Jed even abstained from the owners vote on this stupid new NFL national anthem policy. This ain't the Dallas Cowboys!!

And even if we have Conservative players, I think they know better to keep their mouths shut. Bosa is the first time I have heard of any potential or existing 49ers player being pro-Trump.

Just remember this is a San Francisco team and you need to know what values people in San Francisco believe in. And you don't need to live there neither. You just need to know what this team is about.

yes i totally agree Rascal,i kinda think that Shannahan is kinda cool on Bozo.QW and J A or a trade down is looking really really really good
Originally posted by cortana49:
So many positions to address, but what does your draft (by position) look like? Starting with Bosa, of course.

1. Bosa
2. WR
3. CB
4. LB
5. OL
6. OL

Almost all offense
1. ER Nick "not necessarily a racist/sexist" Bosa
2. WR
3. OT
4. TE
5. FS/LB
6. Punter-Kickoffs
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Yrs

yes i totally agree Rascal,i kinda think that Shannahan is kinda cool on Bozo.QW and J A or a trade down is looking really really really good

I'd loveeeeee to know how you came to this conclusion.
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Originally posted by cortana49:
So many positions to address, but what does your draft (by position) look like? Starting with Bosa, of course.

1. Bosa
2. WR
3. CB
4. LB
5. OL
6. OL

I'd go:
1. Bosa
2. WR
3. DB/Hybrid LB - (a really big safety/or small fast linebacker)
4. DB
6. DB
...and trust Kyle to get another Brieda and Bourne in the undrafted category for offensive depth. Once you have your edge rusher, now you have to shore up your defensive backfield to multiply your Edge Rusher's impact in on the team.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
For the sake of argument, who would be more valuable to the 49ers right now? Joey Bosa or Aaron Donald?

That's how I'm starting to view the Bosa v. Quinnen debate. Nick will be a very very good player (Joey Bosa), but maybe never elite (Mack, Miller) and may have chronic health issues. Quinnen may be truly elite, the best IDL in the league after Donald. But Edge is more valuable that IDL, especially given our roster...

Then you have to ask the question how dominant would Donald be if you forced him to play nose tackle all game.

True, though "all game" is really just 1st downs, right? On passing downs, is there an appreciable difference between the two interior positions? Donald would also spell Buck in the rotation, and either guy might rotate to Big End at times.
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
As a true San Franciscan, I'd much rather see my players in bong masks than MAGA hats

Haha true...thing is you can't play on the weed, you can if you're a republican
Originally posted by dschen:
Bosa's Vocal support of Trump is the final nail in the coffin. Just don't see him as a good fit in SF. If we do draft him... he's gone in FA in 4-5 years.

I think we draft QW or drop back a few picks and grab Sweat DE...

lol, come on now. I am not Trump backer but the man can support whoever he wants. As long as he is a decent human being, not doing illegal acts, I only care about what he does on the football field
Originally posted by Rascal:
Of course it matters!! This is the San Francisco 49ers for God's sake and not some southern team.

Bosa called Kap "a clown" and siding with Trump's ridiculous extreme far right views. You do remember he called all the players who knelt "sons of b*tches" and called for their firing right?

You also do realize our owner aka Jed York's stance on the matter right? First off, any 9ers player was allowed to kneel during the national anthem before the new policy. Secondly, Jed even abstained from the owners vote on this stupid new NFL national anthem policy. This ain't the Dallas Cowboys!!

And even if we have Conservative players, I think they know better to keep their mouths shut. Bosa is the first time I have heard of any potential or existing 49ers player being pro-Trump.

Just remember this is a San Francisco team and you need to know what values people in San Francisco believe in. And you don't need to live there neither. You just need to know what this team is about.

Just a reminder. He deleted all of his conservative posts so he's already lived up to that standard.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Bosa is the first time I have heard of any potential or existing 49ers player being pro-Trump.

CJ Beathard says hi.
Stop trying to derail this thread...you know who you are.

Stick to football.
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Yrs
Originally posted by Rascal:
Of course it matters!! This is the San Francisco 49ers for God's sake and not some southern team.

Bosa called Kap "a clown" and siding with Trump's ridiculous extreme far right views. You do remember he called all the players who knelt "sons of b*tches" and called for their firing right?

You also do realize our owner aka Jed York's stance on the matter right? First off, any 9ers player was allowed to kneel during the national anthem before the new policy. Secondly, Jed even abstained from the owners vote on this stupid new NFL national anthem policy. This ain't the Dallas Cowboys!!

And even if we have Conservative players, I think they know better to keep their mouths shut. Bosa is the first time I have heard of any potential or existing 49ers player being pro-Trump.

Just remember this is a San Francisco team and you need to know what values people in San Francisco believe in. And you don't need to live there neither. You just need to know what this team is about.

yes i totally agree Rascal,i kinda think that Shannahan is kinda cool on Bozo.QW and J A or a trade down is looking really really really good

Will you guys boycott being niner fans of he's the pick?
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
True, though "all game" is really just 1st downs, right? On passing downs, is there an appreciable difference between the two interior positions? Donald would also spell Buck in the rotation, and either guy might rotate to Big End at times.

It's more than just 1st down. Nickel may play 70% of the time but nickel does not mean 2 3 techs. You still have to honor the run on most downs.
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Originally posted by Ladoskiwoski:
This makes me really question and dislike this dude a little bit more. I prefer Josh Allen anyway or trade down
for more picks. Calling CK7 a clown is unnecessary. I would prefer to not get him on the niners anymore

Colin's politics were screwed up by his girlfriend. I wonder if the 49ers have looked into whether or not Bosa has a toxic girlfriend that could screw up the 49er big time, like what happened before when we lost Aldon and Colin.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Yrs
Originally posted by Rascal:
Of course it matters!! This is the San Francisco 49ers for God's sake and not some southern team.

Bosa called Kap "a clown" and siding with Trump's ridiculous extreme far right views. You do remember he called all the players who knelt "sons of b*tches" and called for their firing right?

You also do realize our owner aka Jed York's stance on the matter right? First off, any 9ers player was allowed to kneel during the national anthem before the new policy. Secondly, Jed even abstained from the owners vote on this stupid new NFL national anthem policy. This ain't the Dallas Cowboys!!

And even if we have Conservative players, I think they know better to keep their mouths shut. Bosa is the first time I have heard of any potential or existing 49ers player being pro-Trump.

Just remember this is a San Francisco team and you need to know what values people in San Francisco believe in. And you don't need to live there neither. You just need to know what this team is about.

yes i totally agree Rascal,i kinda think that Shannahan is kinda cool on Bozo.QW and J A or a trade down is looking really really really good

Will you guys boycott being niner fans of he's the pick?

I hope some do. Cheaper ticket prices for me. :)
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