Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

But can you imagine if like, Joe Montana had a son? And he played Quarterback too? He'd go #1 I bet.

Haha.

Originally posted by njninersfan420:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

I'd rather have QW. The Cards would be a lot better off taking QW too, but Bosa has a recognizable last name, so they'll probably take him instead.

If they do take QW, and we end up taking Bosa or Allen or trading down, it's not the end of the world. There is more than one good player in this draft.

Can we please stop with this recognizable name bs?!?! It's such garbage lol, yes a team is gonna spend the #1 overall pick in the entire draft cause his last name is bosa. Get a grip

His name absolutely has impacted his draft status. That's not to say he'd go undrafted if he wasn't named Bosa. However, he's viewed as a safe pick in part due to the fact that his college performance and measurables are all close to his brother's. If NFL teams couldn't look at Joey Bosa's career and see that as a projection of Nick's future career, I don't think he'd be the near-consensus #1. Top 10-15 still probably.

Good quick read on the top 5 picks and what Miller is hearing

San Francisco 49ers

"Don't overthink this s--t. If [Nick] Bosa is on the board, the Niners are picking Bosa." A rival scout who has deep connections to Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers told me that this week when I checked in on league happenings. Like the Murray-to-Arizona talk, this isn't new.

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

His name absolutely has impacted his draft status. That's not to say he'd go undrafted if he wasn't named Bosa. However, he's viewed as a safe pick in part due to the fact that his college performance and measurables are all close to his brother's. If NFL teams couldn't look at Joey Bosa's career and see that as a projection of Nick's future career, I don't think he'd be the near-consensus #1. Top 10-15 still probably.

Top DE in his HS recruiting class, 5 star ⭐️ that's not based on name but play.

Why didn't Casey Matthews or TJ watt get top 5 talk?

So he won't be as good as his brother BUT will be injury prone and "greedy" because of his last name? Subjective context based on how you feel about a player is all I'm hearing.

Let's do some homework

I think Murray to the Cards at #1 has been a "done deal" since the day he chose football over baseball.
Some sort of hush hush secret handshake deal crap.
GET ME NICK GODDAMMED BOSA

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

His name absolutely has impacted his draft status. That's not to say he'd go undrafted if he wasn't named Bosa. However, he's viewed as a safe pick in part due to the fact that his college performance and measurables are all close to his brother's. If NFL teams couldn't look at Joey Bosa's career and see that as a projection of Nick's future career, I don't think he'd be the near-consensus #1. Top 10-15 still probably.

Top DE in his HS recruiting class, 5 star ⭐️ that's not based on name but play.

Why didn't Casey Matthews or TJ watt get top 5 talk?

So he won't be as good as his brother BUT will be injury prone and "greedy" because of his last name? Subjective context based on how you feel about a player is all I'm hearing.

Let's do some homework

So you're telling me that if Joey, with his similar college performance and measurables to Nick, had completely flopped in the NFL it wouldn't have an impact on how Nick is seen as a prospect? It's only natural to use his brother as a measuring stick for what to expect from him. It doesn't mean he's a bad prospect, but it does help him that his brother has performed well in the pros. It's not the only factor though, never said it was, which is why merely being related to a successful NFL player won't get you drafted high.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
His name absolutely has impacted his draft status. That's not to say he'd go undrafted if he wasn't named Bosa. However, he's viewed as a safe pick in part due to the fact that his college performance and measurables are all close to his brother's. If NFL teams couldn't look at Joey Bosa's career and see that as a projection of Nick's future career, I don't think he'd be the near-consensus #1. Top 10-15 still probably.

Top DE in his HS recruiting class, 5 star ⭐️ that's not based on name but play.

Why didn't Casey Matthews or TJ watt get top 5 talk?

So he won't be as good as his brother BUT will be injury prone and "greedy" because of his last name? Subjective context based on how you feel about a player is all I'm hearing.

Let's do some homework

I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

Why?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

Explain yourself sir lol

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

Why?

I don't think he will live up to the selection similar to S. Thomas, simply put Bosa is not that good.
He is an often injured big named college player that does not posses NFL caliber speed or balance (always falling on the ground). A pass rusher cannot consistently beat NFL O/L with strength alone. His technique has to be off, I mean he hasn't played a lot of football due to injuries. I think he is maybe a top 5 prospect, but I am not sure that he will be able to live up to a top 5 selection.

Can you imagine Bosa trying to get to R. Wilson with those 10lb weights on his ankles?

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

Why?

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

I too would be upset to see the 49ers get the top prospect in a given draft class.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

I too would be upset to see the 49ers get the top prospect in a given draft class.

You mean like Alex Smith?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I'm starting to hope the Cards take Bosa #1. I think it would be a huge mistake for the niners to take him #2 overall.

I too would be upset to see the 49ers get the top prospect in a given draft class.

Let another team get the top prospect (Brian Bozworth), I want the best player!

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

So you're telling me that if Joey, with his similar college performance and measurables to Nick, had completely flopped in the NFL it wouldn't have an impact on how Nick is seen as a prospect? It's only natural to use his brother as a measuring stick for what to expect from him. It doesn't mean he's a bad prospect, but it does help him that his brother has performed well in the pros. It's not the only factor though, never said it was, which is why merely being related to a successful NFL player won't get you drafted high.

I think each player is graded and evaluated based on their play and talent. Again why was Casey Mattews not looked at as a top 10 pick? Why wasn't any of Gronk's brothers looked at as anything especial?

I think people who don't want him are simply trying throw out any negative they can think of...it's a very lazy take imo.

You can question him not having elite length, that's something that can be debated. I can also debate technique and leverage will win out more than having long arms all day.

Like I said go watch the feature I posted, it's not like Nick was some s**tty football player who hung on to Joey's coattails.