Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Oh boy.....that new webzone article.

No offense but who is Levin Black?

DaBum

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Oh boy.....that new webzone article.

The one saying that they might pass on Bosa?

It's a purely hypothetical argue. They "could" or they "could not".

TBH the article lost me when it based a lot of its reasoning on making sure Thomas and AA both got game time.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where was Williams in the national title game? Lawrence was dominating that game. Who were the elite tackles that Nick faced off vs and did awful? Go watch that Wisconsin game. They always have a top end OL and he was constantly winning his rushes.

Williams dominated in the national title game. He forced double and triple teams and when he wasnt teamed up against he was the first one to the QB. Blew up runs in the backfield, drew holding and tripping penalties and pressured constantly. It is telling that whenever he made a play, Clemson would start doing screens or horizontal plays to keep QW from pinning his ears back and force him to run sideline to sideline.

That said, I care about our Nickel D the most and Bosa-Thomas-Buck-Ford is more appealing than Armstead/Thomas/Blair - QW - Buck - Ford IMO. I'd take either with a grin on my face though compared to last years line.

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by WINiner:
Ford is oft-injured historically. Putting all of our eggs into that basket would be a mistake imo.

Trading down would allow you to take another edge player later to develop

I'd rather take the guy that is ready now and allow Ford to be spelled so each can be productive and stay healthy. Plus we have a need at the other end position.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Garce:

Bears have an elite Safety in Eddie Jackson, if we could draft a similar player to him, I would also be okay with that.

Bosa will dominate lesser talented OTs but will disappear vs the good ones, IE in the playoffs. The more I learn about him, the less I like. If we don't trade down, I'd be okay with Quinnen Williams @ #2.

Quinnen Williams is Aaron Donald with 20 extra pounds. This is just gross. pic.twitter.com/22TpOdCB6H

— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) February 5, 2019

Where was Williams in the national title game? Lawrence was dominating that game. Who were the elite tackles that Nick faced off vs and did awful? Go watch that Wisconsin game. They always have a top end OL and he was constantly winning his rushes.

Where was Donald in the superbowl? Good coaching can find ways to neutralize even the elite players.

Originally posted by Garce:
We have Buckner with 12 Sacks and now Dee Ford. Our pass rush should be fine. Our secondary is one of the worst in the league. Greedy Williams is the best CB in the class. 6'3 with 4.3 speed, enough said. A dominant CB would make our good pass rush even better.

that would be a thing is Bosa did not fit this team as well as he does.

Is it not always better to build from the front to the back on defense? Great Lines helps everyone behind it, there is such a thing as coverage sacks, but you can always drop back more guys in the coverage with a great front 4.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

that would be a thing is Bosa did not fit this team as well as he does.

Is it not always better to build from the front to the back on defense? Great Lines helps everyone behind it, there is such a thing as coverage sacks, but you can always drop back more guys in the coverage with a great front 4.

We have been building from the front for years now. Lol.

How could general manager John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan pass on the complete package of a prospect in Bosa? Well, they might even have a reasonable reason once you dive into the finer details.
The acquisition of Dee Ford would undoubtedly be a very big part of why. It's not just that the 49ers added one of the best edge rushers in the league. It's how they plan to utilize him. Ford played as a linebacker for the Kansas City Chiefs. He was the wide-9 rusher, which made him a linebacker in the 3-4 defensive system the Chiefs employed.
The 49ers don't run a 3-4 scheme but rather a 4-3. Upon the completion of the trade, many wondered if the 49ers would play Ford in the SAM linebacker position in their defense. This will not be the case. When asked if Ford will be a defensive end, Lynch was succinct in his answer.
"We do," Lynch said at the press conference introducing Ford and Kwon Alexander last week. "That's what we see him as ... he fits the LEO mold perfectly."
This decision has a domino affect on the rest of the defensive line. With the LEO position taken, the 49ers must decide who will serve as the team's other defensive end as well as find a linebacker for the SAM position. If the 49ers draft Bosa, he would fill the "big end" spot as the team's other starting defensive end.
That would create a potential playing time problem for the 49ers incumbent defensive ends. There are four starting defensive line positions. DeForest Buckner will be taking one of the defensive tackle spots and Ford will be taking the LEO defensive end position. Two spots left with Arik Armstead, Solomon Thomas and potentially Bosa still unaccounted for. Someone would be the odd man out.
**** starting to wonder if this is gonna happen!

Originally posted by cortana49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Oh boy.....that new webzone article.

No offense but who is Levin Black?

He has an account here under the name LordGains.

Hahaha dude coming hot writing articles after being in here for a week

Originally posted by Dshearn:

that would be a thing is Bosa did not fit this team as well as he does.

Is it not always better to build from the front to the back on defense? Great Lines helps everyone behind it, there is such a thing as coverage sacks, but you can always drop back more guys in the coverage with a great front 4.

You think Donald was the reason they lost the super bowl? Lol


They lost because they couldn't cover Edelman.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Oh boy.....that new webzone article.

No offense but who is Levin Black?

DaBum

We need to talk to him. Lol

Originally posted by toppdogg32:

How could general manager John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan pass on the complete package of a prospect in Bosa? Well, they might even have a reasonable reason once you dive into the finer details.
The acquisition of Dee Ford would undoubtedly be a very big part of why. It's not just that the 49ers added one of the best edge rushers in the league. It's how they plan to utilize him. Ford played as a linebacker for the Kansas City Chiefs. He was the wide-9 rusher, which made him a linebacker in the 3-4 defensive system the Chiefs employed.
The 49ers don't run a 3-4 scheme but rather a 4-3. Upon the completion of the trade, many wondered if the 49ers would play Ford in the SAM linebacker position in their defense. This will not be the case. When asked if Ford will be a defensive end, Lynch was succinct in his answer.
"We do," Lynch said at the press conference introducing Ford and Kwon Alexander last week. "That's what we see him as ... he fits the LEO mold perfectly."
This decision has a domino affect on the rest of the defensive line. With the LEO position taken, the 49ers must decide who will serve as the team's other defensive end as well as find a linebacker for the SAM position. If the 49ers draft Bosa, he would fill the "big end" spot as the team's other starting defensive end.
That would create a potential playing time problem for the 49ers incumbent defensive ends. There are four starting defensive line positions. DeForest Buckner will be taking one of the defensive tackle spots and Ford will be taking the LEO defensive end position. Two spots left with Arik Armstead, Solomon Thomas and potentially Bosa still unaccounted for. Someone would be the odd man out.
**** starting to wonder if this is gonna happen!

If AA and ST had played up to expectations we wouldn't be having this problem.
They can both pound sand for all I care and in no way would I base my draft selection with there playing time in mind.
You get the best players you can and find a way to get them on the field.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cortana49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Oh boy.....that new webzone article.

No offense but who is Levin Black?

He has an account here under the name LordGains.

Hahaha dude coming hot writing articles after being in here for a week

Lol If AZ passes on Bosa and we do as well you will see this place burn to the ground.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

If AA and ST had played up to expectations we wouldn't be having this problem.
They can both pound sand for all I care and in no way would I base my draft selection with there playing time in mind.
You get the best players you can and find a way to get them on the field.

You also can't kepp replacing the same position with high picks every other yr. at some pt you gotta develop and play players at their proper position.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cortana49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Oh boy.....that new webzone article.

No offense but who is Levin Black?

He has an account here under the name LordGains.

Hahaha dude coming hot writing articles after being in here for a week

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