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What is your drafting philosophy?

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What is your drafting philosophy?

I don't agree with either philosophy as being mutually exclusive. You have to maneuver the board and touch on all three of these, but when it comes to the first round, if there is a guy who is a game changer, you need to get him.

Game changers inspire players who are not game changers to make plays. It is not realistic to fill every position with a game changer. So, the key is getting key game changers in certain positions. Jimmy Garoppolo was a key game changer who elevated the play of many players who were not making plays before JimmyG came on board.

If Saquon in on the board, you take him and he will also elevate the play of other 9ers such as Breida and Joe Williams.

Stockpiling picks alone is foolish. There needs to be a balance.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Whatever it takes to load up the OL to a silly degree. That is the biggest weak area on the roster right now.

This is what is needed! If you give him time to throw he will carve up teams! Guard from ND and Center from Ohio state. Then fill skill positions front line first!
Also, in general, assuming you have your franchise QB , in terms of priority, I think we should always look for edge rushers first, O-lineman 2nd, D-lineman 3rd, D-Backs 4th and skill positions 5th. Usually the later rounds will have good D-Backs and skill players.

If you have higher priority positions filled, you can move the lower priorities up. Again, just talking philosophically.
[ Edited by 60sFan on Dec 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM ]
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This is a tough one. For me (as a major college fan) it would totally depend on needs and availability.

If the draft sucks for my needs. Trade down and possibly sacrifice that specific year for the next. However, if I feel the first and second will have a bumper crop for my specifics... sacrifice next year for the current.

Honestly, this is where I felt Baalke really blew it. He always traded down and selected risk, regardless of the talent pool.

Your approach must be active and within context. It can't be dogmatic and independent of the situation.
Originally posted by Jcool:
If 49ers have a top 3 pick get a QB needy team to trade the farm for it.

Agree with this
Draft everyone
Originally posted by Brewcrew:
This is what is needed! If you give him time to throw he will carve up teams! Guard from ND and Center from Ohio state. Then fill skill positions front line first!

I agree with you 100%

We all have seen what happens when you don't have a solid Oline (it can ruin a qb).

Cant run the ball (even if you have a stud rb) and you cant pass (at least downfield) cause they don't give the qb enough time to go thru his progressions.

A skilled wr wont even get thrown to (even if open) if the qb doesn't have the time to see him.

Plus Staley is getting up there too!
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by Jcool:
If 49ers have a top 3 pick get a QB needy team to trade the farm for it.

Agree with this

Option 2 it is.

Originally posted by Geeked:
This is a tough one. For me (as a major college fan) it would totally depend on needs and availability.

If the draft sucks for my needs. Trade down and possibly sacrifice that specific year for the next. However, if I feel the first and second will have a bumper crop for my specifics... sacrifice next year for the current.

Honestly, this is where I felt Baalke really blew it. He always traded down and selected risk, regardless of the talent pool.

Your approach must be active and within context. It can't be dogmatic and independent of the situation.

I totally agree. The question is specific to this draft and what we can do with our team to move us forward. Looking at the draft, because we will be a top-5 team and I don't expect us to be a top-5 team anytime soon, it's really important that we take advantage of this. We are sure of getting one of the top players in this draft, but because of the uniqueness of this draft, there are so many quarterback needy teams due to performance, age, or salary issues. I expect a lot of action in that top-10. Add in the fact that two of the four teams that recently made a huge trade for QBs (Philly and Los Angeles) are having huge success, in part because of the risk they took with getting a quarterback. A third team (Houston) has their QB and the early returns look good. Add in they got him a year early and he would've been better than anyone available this year. The fourth team (Kansas City) showed some tremendous foresight because it looks like this may be Alex Smith's last stand with the Chiefs. Things like that could drive the price up, even if the talent may not be as good.
Thankfully, we don't have that problem. We should take advantage. There will be a lot of chips on the table with a trade down. Does Denver stand pat and let the draft come to them or do they make some type of statement and trade up to get the first or second best QB available? I think NY will take a QB. They have to get ready for life after Eli. How long do the Jets keep trying to do this without a QB? Does Arizona go another year without one? Maybe Cincinatti pulls a draft shocker. Buffalo is in play. Maybe Atlanta pulls off a draft shocker. There are a lot of teams who could be looking to make a move.
For example, say we trade with Denver (I can't see Cleveland or NY trading if they remain where they are), we move down a slot and send our third for their 1st, 2nd, and 4th. Although it is known that we won't take a QB, our pick also has the be the one that gets the most action for teams looking to trade because they know we aren't taking a QB. Elway calls his good buddy Lynch to lock in that number three (or hopefully number 2, which would increase the price for Denver), he ensures he gets a top-QB and perhaps the barbarians at the gates in Denver are satisfied for at least another year.
Now comes the question of Chicago because IMO, they are at the sweet spot for us in the draft. I think we both are taking receivers. I hope Chicago prefers Sutton to Ridley. If they do, I hope sites keep mocking Sutton to us. If so, maybe we do a trade with them again. Our first and 3rd (their's originally) for their 1st and 2nd. Chicago gets the big body receiver to replace the loss of Alshon Jeffrey during last offseason and we get the best route runner in the draft. Of course, with no real threats to take Ridley now, we can possibly trade with the Jets and go to 11th or Cincinatti at 9. WThe cost, yet another 2nd round pick.
Of course there are a lot of if's in here, but the ifs are not extremely far stretches considering who is available. Based on that, we walk away with Ridley and now have three extra second round picks. Those players are likely starters and there is also the prospect of more trades.
[ Edited by LifelongNiner on Dec 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM ]
Originally posted by rk1642:
Originally posted by Brewcrew:
This is what is needed! If you give him time to throw he will carve up teams! Guard from ND and Center from Ohio state. Then fill skill positions front line first!

I agree with you 100%

We all have seen what happens when you don't have a solid Oline (it can ruin a qb).

Cant run the ball (even if you have a stud rb) and you cant pass (at least downfield) cause they don't give the qb enough time to go thru his progressions.

A skilled wr wont even get thrown to (even if open) if the qb doesn't have the time to see him.

Plus Staley is getting up there too!

Free agency. There $100 million + has to go somewhere. Spend on those O-line trenches and draft the skill players to take advantage of it. I do think we should draft one guard in the 2nd or third to develop as a future starter or starter in 2018 in case Garnett isn't the guy. I think the thing we have to keep in mind is that we can't fill every hole this year. We should concentrate on a few that will make our offense and defense functional.
I say they win against the Titans and Jags at Home. Will be drafting around 8-10. Trade down #15-18 pick up a 2nd round pick. Take best DE in 1st and Wr and Olb in Second

Fa wr, Cb, C, ILb
We need to get OL and Weapons for Jimmy G.
No way i want us to go D again this year.
We need a skill player that gets this franchise and its fans excited with Jimmy G.
Get as much Prime USA Grade A Beef as possible.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by rk1642:
Originally posted by Brewcrew:
This is what is needed! If you give him time to throw he will carve up teams! Guard from ND and Center from Ohio state. Then fill skill positions front line first!

I agree with you 100%

We all have seen what happens when you don't have a solid Oline (it can ruin a qb).

Cant run the ball (even if you have a stud rb) and you cant pass (at least downfield) cause they don't give the qb enough time to go thru his progressions.

A skilled wr wont even get thrown to (even if open) if the qb doesn't have the time to see him.

Plus Staley is getting up there too!

Free agency. There $100 million + has to go somewhere. Spend on those O-line trenches and draft the skill players to take advantage of it. I do think we should draft one guard in the 2nd or third to develop as a future starter or starter in 2018 in case Garnett isn't the guy. I think the thing we have to keep in mind is that we can't fill every hole this year. We should concentrate on a few that will make our offense and defense functional.
It really depends on what's available? Can we trade down and still get the o line fixed? I still say guard and center we need to keep the push up the middle away from Jimmy G. I believe there is always skill players out there in later rounds to be had. Don't forget about available free agents too.
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