Josh Allen OLB/ILB/DE Kentucky | Page 224

jersey49er · 2017-10-24T06:27:57-07:00

Josh Allen, ILB/OLB, Kentucky Height: 6-5. Weight: 230. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 10/21/17: Allen has been one of the leading defenders in sacks in the early going of the 2017 season. The junior is one of the nation's leaders with 6.5 sacks. He also has 35 tackles with 7.5 tackles for a loss, two forced fumbles and a pass batted. Allen produced well as a sophomore in 2016 with 62 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, seven sacks and four forced fumbles. One national scout compared Allen to Leonard Floyd coming out of Georgia with Allen's ability to rush off the edge. That scout said Allen isn't as freaky of an athlete as Floyd was, and Allen is not a top-10 pick, but he did grade Allen as a first-rounder. Another director of college scouting said he gave Allen a high second-round grade, but thought Allen could definitely end up going in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft. That director said Allen was an interesting player because he also can play inside linebacker, whereas Floyd was just an outside edge defender. That college director said as an inside linebacker, Allen has similarities to current Texans linebacker Zach Cunningham in terms of his height, speed, length, and athleticism in the middle. Nice looking prospect, definitely needs to bulk up more but seems to fly to the ball, nice rushing ability from the edge also..

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:08 PM

#3346

49ers808
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Bosa: 1.55
Allen: 1.61

Bosa beat Allen in everything except for 40 time and broad jump.

And field drills that included catching the football

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:09 PM

#3347

Heroism
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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
Any significant size difference between the two?

Bosa is 4 lbs heavier; Allen is an 1" taller and has .5" longer arms; Bosa has bear paws(10.75"), Allen has small hands(8.75").
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[ Edited by Heroism on Mar 3, 2019 at 2:10 PM ]

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:09 PM

#3348

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These drills make me laugh. Just draft football players. I don't care how fast they run around some cones.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:10 PM

#3349

mayo49
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1a. Bosa
1b. Allen

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:10 PM

#3350

Waterbear
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
These drills make me laugh. Just draft football players. I don't care how fast they run around some cones.

I agree. But some people made money today clearing up perceptions that they were slow like chase and harry.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM

#3351

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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
What was his 10 yard split vs Bosa?

Bosa: 1.55
Allen: 1.61

Bosa beat Allen in everything except for 40 time and broad jump.

yet people say allen has more potential because he is superior athletically

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:16 PM

#3352

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Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
What was his 10 yard split vs Bosa?

Bosa: 1.55
Allen: 1.61

Bosa beat Allen in everything except for 40 time and broad jump.

yet people say allen has more potential because he is superior athletically

That was the argument so it's not a good look he tested worse than Bosa. Bosa has better technique, feel for the game, run defense and power. Not sure how you can even argue Allen is better at this point. Allen also will thrive in a 3-4 so for his sake I hope the team that drafts him runs that scheme. Hes one of the better coverage ER I've ever seen.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:21 PM

#3353

pdc20
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He had a pretty good combine I thought.
He tested well and he was a legit 6ft5 260lbs guy.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:23 PM

#3354

GoldenJoe
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Tested fine. Just a freak DL/ER class. Really can't recall seeing those positions this deep in one draft.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:32 PM

#3355

gold49digger
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Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
What was his 10 yard split vs Bosa?

Bosa: 1.55
Allen: 1.61

Bosa beat Allen in everything except for 40 time and broad jump.

yet people say allen has more potential because he is superior athletically

That was the argument so it's not a good look he tested worse than Bosa. Bosa has better technique, feel for the game, run defense and power. Not sure how you can even argue Allen is better at this point. Allen also will thrive in a 3-4 so for his sake I hope the team that drafts him runs that scheme. Hes one of the better coverage ER I've ever seen.

Yeah he is better fit as a 3-4 olb imo we would waste his abilities in a 4-3. If we ran Fangios defense I would be clamoring for him but Bosa is a no brainer. I have no clue how people convinced themselves otherwise.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:35 PM

#3356

btthepunk
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Originally posted by mayo49:
1a. Bosa
1b. Allen

This.

Mar 3, 2019 at 2:39 PM

#3357

glorydayz
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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
Tested fine. Just a freak DL/ER class. Really can't recall seeing those positions this deep in one draft.

True, last one I can think of is Watt & Aldon Smith's class.

Mar 3, 2019 at 3:47 PM

#3358

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Originally posted by Heroism:
Bosa: 1.55
Allen: 1.61

Bosa beat Allen in everything except for 40 time and broad jump.

Well not everything,...because Allen skipped some things.

It's really a coin flip if you're not concerned with health.

Mar 3, 2019 at 3:48 PM

#3359

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Originally posted by gold49digger:
Yeah he is better fit as a 3-4 olb imo we would waste his abilities in a 4-3. If we ran Fangios defense I would be clamoring for him but Bosa is a no brainer. I have no clue how people convinced themselves otherwise.

Simply untrue if he can cause havoc getting to the passer in both.

The players make the schemes....the schemes dont make the players.

Mar 3, 2019 at 4:43 PM

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NFL.COM's 4 highest Draft Grades, regardless of Postition, for 2019:

[ Edited by random49er on Mar 3, 2019 at 4:47 PM ]