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Courtland Sutton | WR | SMU | Junior At 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds, Sutton looks like a No. 1 wideout in the NFL. Last year in Dallas, as a redshirt sophomore, he had 76 receptions, 1,246 yards, and 10 scores. His routinely showcased his high-pointing ability, physicality, and surprising speed down the field. He likely would have been picked in one of the first two rounds in the 2017 draft but chose to gain even more momentum by staying in school for another season. James Washington | WR | Oklahoma State | Senior Washington has been Rudolph's top passing-game priority during their time together in Stillwater. The 6-foot, 205-pound wideout has been a premier deep threat over the past two seasons, making 124 grabs at nearly 20 yards per catch with 20 total receiving touchdowns. Having Rudolph throwing him the football will likely help Washington amass huge numbers in his final season at Oklahoma State. Deon Cain | WR | Clemson | Junior The 6-foot-1, 210-pound Cain has electric flashes of downfield speed and yards-after-the-catch creativity in the open field. He'll go into his junior season with 74 career catches for 1,306 yards and 14 touchdowns. It'll be interesting to see how he produces without Deshaun Watson throwing him the ball, but Cain will probably shine in his role as Clemson's No. 1 target. He's very talented, as evidenced by his five-catch, 94-yard performance against Alabama in the national title game this past January. Christian Kirk | WR | Texas A&M | Junior Kirk lacks ideal No. 1 wideout size at 5-foot-11 and 200 pounds, but he has moments reminiscent of the similarly sized Odell Beckham Jr. and Antonio Brown. Kirk has blazing speed and explosive cutting ability, which makes him nearly impossible to tackle on the first try in the open field. As a freshman in 2015, he had 80 catches for 1,009 yards with seven receiving touchdowns. Last year, he reeled in 83 passes for 928 yards with nine scores. Calvin Ridley | WR | Alabama | Junior With freshman Jalen Hurts under center a season ago, the Alabama offense was aerially challenged at times. Ridley saw his statistics drop from 89 catches and 1,045 yards in 2015 to 72 grabs and 769 yards as a sophomore. The 6-foot-1, 188-pound Ridley has some Amari Cooper to his game, as he's a fluid receiver who makes things look easy at times. With improved quarterback play, Ridley could have a season that makes him worth a Round 1 selection. Antonio Callaway | WR | Florida | Junior Callaway went from big-play wideout to reliable possession target over his first two seasons on the field for the Gators. If he has a year with some game-changing plays but still shows his reliability on third downs, he'll be a favorite of many NFL wide receiver coaches. Equanimeous St. Brown | WR | Notre Dame | Junior The receiver with the coolest name in college football is primed to truly breakout for the Fighting Irish in 2017. At 6-foot-4 and over 200 pounds, he has massive size for the position and the deep speed to really threaten secondaries down the field. Last year, he averaged 16.6 yards per catch and caught nine touchdowns for Notre Dame. Auden Tate | WR | Florida State | Junior Tate is 6-foot-5 and nearly 230 pounds -- he's built like Brandon Marshall. Despite his power-forward like size, he's a smooth athlete with hops and strong hands. A former five-start recruit, Tate has been slowly incorporated to the Florida State offense. He made his first collegiate reception in 2016, and finished the year with six touchdowns on 25 catches. He was the Seminoles go-to target in the red zone for obvious reasons. If he has a breakout season, will he turn pro? Parris Campbell | WR | Ohio State | Junior Among the most intriguing positional changes -- or in this case, a positional tweak -- in the entire country will be Campbell's move from a traditional receiver spot to the more versatile "H-back" role played by Curtis Samuel a season ago. Campbell caught 13 passes for 121 yards and was a reliable kick returner in 2016. He averaged 27.8 yards on 21 kick returns. The 6-foot-1, 208-pounder will be one of the main features of the Buckeyes offense. Mike Gesicki | TE | Penn State | Senior After two pedestrian years for the Nittany Lions, Gesicki flourished with Trace McSorley under center a season ago. Blessed with immense size at 6-foot-6 and 252 pounds, Gesicki had 48 receptions, 679 yards, and five touchdown catches in 2016. He scored in each of Penn State's final three games last year. Dante Pettis | WR | Washington | Senior While he doesn't possess John Ross-like speed (who does?), Pettis thrives on vertical routes. The 6-foot-1, 188-pounder caught 15 touchdowns on 53 receptions in 2016 while averaging 15.5 yards per catch. He'll be the top passing priority for Jake Browning this season. Mark Andrews | WR/TE | Oklahoma | Junior Andrews is a redwood tree on the field at 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds. He had seven touchdowns on 19 catches as a freshman in 2015 and hauled in another seven scores in 2016 while upping his reception total to 31. His productive year led to first-team All-Big 12 honors. Andrews is more tight end than he is wide receiver, but he has plenty of experience split out wide in the slot and has fluid athleticism after the catch. Troy Fumagalli | TE | Wisconsin | Senior Fumagalli has been a reliable underneath target for Wisconsin for three years now, and in 2016, he upped his volume in the passing game. The 6-foot-6 tight end caught 47 passes for 580 yards. He's an willing blocker too. Jaylen Smith | WR | Louisville | JuniorIn the two seasons Smith has played with Lamar Jackson at Louisville, he's amassed 975 yards on just 56 receptions (17.4 yards per grab) with seven touchdowns. Six of those came a year ago when he emerged as the Cardinals go-to, big-play wideout. At 6-foot-4 and 210 pounds, he has a large, NFL-caliber frame.

Dec 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM

#91

WRATHman44
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Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Anybody watch much of Christian Kirk. I have only seen highlight tapes but that man looks electric!

Was in the conversation for WR1 before the season. Haven't heard his name since.

Dec 11, 2017 at 5:33 PM

#92

eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Anybody watch much of Christian Kirk. I have only seen highlight tapes but that man looks electric!

Was in the conversation for WR1 before the season. Haven't heard his name since.

He hasn't had a great year (partly due to QB play and partly due to teams focusing on him), but he's more explosive than Ridley and almost two years younger (November 1996 vs. December 1994 birthdays). He's going to test really well at the combine and could still be the top WR selected. I think both Ridley and Kirk end up going in the 10-20 range and it wouldn't surprise me if teams favor the shorter, more electric Kirk over Ridley. He's a little like Odell Beckham (also a fiery personality), but is a leader, not a headcase. I'd be happy with either on a trade back or trade up from the 2nd round.

NFLdraftscout still lists Kirk over both Ridley and Sutton for good reason in my opinion.

Dec 12, 2017 at 11:45 AM

#93

irishluder
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Loving that there are so many potential starters at WR in this draft, I still have Miller from Memphis as my draft crush!

Dec 12, 2017 at 12:44 PM

#94

GhostOfBaalke
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Originally posted by irishluder:
Loving that there are so many potential starters at WR in this draft, I still have Miller from Memphis as my draft crush!

I know we need some big bodied receivers to be some good red zone targets but I love that guy as well. Combine gonna determine where he goes

[ Edited by GhostOfBaalke on Dec 12, 2017 at 12:44 PM ]

Dec 12, 2017 at 8:04 PM

#95

Heroism
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It's a damn shame this guy is a POS human being. He'll probably be catching bombs from Patrick Mahomes next year.

Dec 12, 2017 at 11:11 PM

#96

GhostOfBaalke
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Originally posted by Heroism:
It's a damn shame this guy is a POS human being. He'll probably be catching bombs from Patrick Mahomes next year.

Or andy dalton. What did he do ?

Dec 12, 2017 at 11:20 PM

#97

Heroism
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His rap sheet is too long to recall. I know he had nvolvement in a felony fraud case, pleaded no contest to drug charges and was at the center of a pair of Title IX investigations. He's been arrested in the presence of convicted child molesters and drug dealers.

Dec 13, 2017 at 2:00 AM

#98

irishluder
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Originally posted by Heroism:
His rap sheet is too long to recall. I know he had nvolvement in a felony fraud case, pleaded no contest to drug charges and was at the center of a pair of Title IX investigations. He's been arrested in the presence of convicted child molesters and drug dealers.

This type of ish pisses me off beyond belief, these guys are given worldly talent and will make at worst 500k a year but F it up

Wonder what dips*@t will get arrested between the combine and draft this year

Dec 13, 2017 at 5:44 AM

#99

Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Anybody watch much of Christian Kirk. I have only seen highlight tapes but that man looks electric!

Was in the conversation for WR1 before the season. Haven't heard his name since.

He hasn't had a great year (partly due to QB play and partly due to teams focusing on him), but he's more explosive than Ridley and almost two years younger (November 1996 vs. December 1994 birthdays). He's going to test really well at the combine and could still be the top WR selected. I think both Ridley and Kirk end up going in the 10-20 range and it wouldn't surprise me if teams favor the shorter, more electric Kirk over Ridley. He's a little like Odell Beckham (also a fiery personality), but is a leader, not a headcase. I'd be happy with either on a trade back or trade up from the 2nd round.

NFLdraftscout still lists Kirk over both Ridley and Sutton for good reason in my opinion.

Yep. I'm still a big fan of Kirk. Two freshman qb's and a bigger commitment to the running game vultured some of Kirk's stats. I still think he has all the ingredients to carve a nice NFL career out for himself.

Dec 13, 2017 at 1:54 PM

#100

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Anybody watch much of Christian Kirk. I have only seen highlight tapes but that man looks electric!

Was in the conversation for WR1 before the season. Haven't heard his name since.

He hasn't had a great year (partly due to QB play and partly due to teams focusing on him), but he's more explosive than Ridley and almost two years younger (November 1996 vs. December 1994 birthdays). He's going to test really well at the combine and could still be the top WR selected. I think both Ridley and Kirk end up going in the 10-20 range and it wouldn't surprise me if teams favor the shorter, more electric Kirk over Ridley. He's a little like Odell Beckham (also a fiery personality), but is a leader, not a headcase. I'd be happy with either on a trade back or trade up from the 2nd round.

NFLdraftscout still lists Kirk over both Ridley and Sutton for good reason in my opinion.

Yep. I'm still a big fan of Kirk. Two freshman qb's and a bigger commitment to the running game vultured some of Kirk's stats. I still think he has all the ingredients to carve a nice NFL career out for himself.

Maybe 5'11... Ugh lol.

Dec 13, 2017 at 7:31 PM

#101

Heroism
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If you haven't watched Maryland WR DJ Moore, you're missing out.

Dec 13, 2017 at 7:33 PM

#102

Cjez
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No WRs under 6'3", thanks

Dec 13, 2017 at 7:56 PM

#103

eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Anybody watch much of Christian Kirk. I have only seen highlight tapes but that man looks electric!

Was in the conversation for WR1 before the season. Haven't heard his name since.

He hasn't had a great year (partly due to QB play and partly due to teams focusing on him), but he's more explosive than Ridley and almost two years younger (November 1996 vs. December 1994 birthdays). He's going to test really well at the combine and could still be the top WR selected. I think both Ridley and Kirk end up going in the 10-20 range and it wouldn't surprise me if teams favor the shorter, more electric Kirk over Ridley. He's a little like Odell Beckham (also a fiery personality), but is a leader, not a headcase. I'd be happy with either on a trade back or trade up from the 2nd round.

NFLdraftscout still lists Kirk over both Ridley and Sutton for good reason in my opinion.

Yep. I'm still a big fan of Kirk. Two freshman qb's and a bigger commitment to the running game vultured some of Kirk's stats. I still think he has all the ingredients to carve a nice NFL career out for himself.

Maybe 5'11... Ugh lol.

He's probably 5'10.5, but Ridley hasn't exactly shown he can win contested catches with his size and they look about the same weight (Kirk is sturdier than Ridley). Antonio Brown is 5'10, Odell Beckham Jr is 5'11, T.Y. Hilton is 5'10, and Brandin Cooks is 5'10. The NFL is full of smaller, shiftier WRs and bigger WRs (6'3+ or guys like Hopkins and Crabtree who are 6'1-6'2 with very long arms, strength, and coordination who can outfight guys for the ball). Guys like Cooper and Watkins who fall in between those categories haven't fared as well.

Kirk and Sutton are more similar to guys who are successful in the NFL right now than Ridley is in my opinion. Top WRs are lining up all over the field now anyways, so I don't think it matters too much if your #1 WR is 5'11 or 6'1.

Dec 13, 2017 at 8:05 PM

#104

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Anybody watch much of Christian Kirk. I have only seen highlight tapes but that man looks electric!

Was in the conversation for WR1 before the season. Haven't heard his name since.

He hasn't had a great year (partly due to QB play and partly due to teams focusing on him), but he's more explosive than Ridley and almost two years younger (November 1996 vs. December 1994 birthdays). He's going to test really well at the combine and could still be the top WR selected. I think both Ridley and Kirk end up going in the 10-20 range and it wouldn't surprise me if teams favor the shorter, more electric Kirk over Ridley. He's a little like Odell Beckham (also a fiery personality), but is a leader, not a headcase. I'd be happy with either on a trade back or trade up from the 2nd round.

NFLdraftscout still lists Kirk over both Ridley and Sutton for good reason in my opinion.

Yep. I'm still a big fan of Kirk. Two freshman qb's and a bigger commitment to the running game vultured some of Kirk's stats. I still think he has all the ingredients to carve a nice NFL career out for himself.

Maybe 5'11... Ugh lol.

He's probably 5'10.5, but Ridley hasn't exactly shown he can win contested catches with his size and they look about the same weight (Kirk is sturdier than Ridley). Antonio Brown is 5'10, Odell Beckham Jr is 5'11, T.Y. Hilton is 5'10, and Brandin Cooks is 5'10. The NFL is full of smaller, shiftier WRs and bigger WRs (6'3+ or guys like Hopkins and Crabtree who are 6'1-6'2 with very long arms, strength, and coordination who can outfight guys for the ball). Guys like Cooper and Watkins who fall in between those categories haven't fared as well.

Kirk and Sutton are more similar to guys who are successful in the NFL right now than Ridley is in my opinion. Top WRs are lining up all over the field now anyways, so I don't think it matters too much if your #1 WR is 5'11 or 6'1.

I feel you. Itll be interesting in what Shanny wants to add.. And were all excited for that time to come

Cool thing is Garcon can be moved around as well, at the slot for example.

Dec 14, 2017 at 11:40 AM

#105

genus49
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I'm curious to see Jester Weah at the combine. I think he's worth a look on day 3.