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jreff22 · 2017-08-29T11:14:05-07:00

Knowing that Ward and Reid both have health issues, Tartt still hasn't put it all together, RR is getting smoked at CB, and DJ is getting his last shot to prove something...I think its safe to say we will go DB early and often next year. Below are the listed DB's (in ranked order) from Draft Scouts top 100 players Derwin James | S | Florida State | Junior A former five-star recruit with freakish athleticism, linebacker-esque hitting ability, and cornerback-like ball skills. That's a description of either former Florida State safety Jalen Ramsey or current Seminoles star Derwin James. At 6-foot-3 and 211 pounds, James is enormous for the position. He's super-fluid on the field with quick play-recognition gifts, as evidenced by his 91 tackles as a true freshman in 2015. He missed most of 2016 with a knee injury but should be back to 100 percent for the 2017 campaign. Tarvarus McFadden | CB | Florida State | Junior McFadden and James form the best safety-cornerback duo in the country in 2017. Last year, McFadden reeled in eight interceptions, which led the nation. At 6-foot-2 and 200 pounds, he dominated with size and athleticism at times but had moments that showed a lack of sound tackling ability. From a physical perspective, it's all there for this Florida State standout. He'll be returning from a torn labrum this season too. Minkah Fitzpatrick | CB | Alabama | Junior The latest in an unfathomably long line of first-round caliber cornerbacks from Alabama during the Nick Saban era, Fitzpatrick has played both safety and corner for the Crimson Tide. The NFL will like that versatility. He's 6-foot-1 and 203 pounds with good strength and plus ball skills. He had two picks as a freshman in 2015 and intercepted six passes as a sophomore. Oh, and he's already returned four of those picks for touchdowns. Jaire Alexander | CB | Louisville | Junior At 5-foot-11 and 188 pounds, Alexander could add some weight to his frame as he gets ready to make the jump to the next level. In 2016, he reeled in five interceptions and defended nine other passes in his target area. Louisville will be in the spotlight often, so Alexander will have ample opportunity to make big plays with everyone watching. Marcus Allen | S | Penn State | Senior Allen was the Nittany Lions' most impactful secondary member in 2016. He had 110 tackles and six tackles for loss. At 6-foot-2 and 205 pounds, he has NFL safety size. He was a terror against Minnesota, when he tallied a remarkable 22 tackles with one tackle for loss. Armani Watts | S | Texas A&M | Senior The 5-foot-11, 200-pound lightning bug is a striker on the back end for the Aggies. Unfortunately, his season was cut short in 2016. The year before, Watts recorded 126 tackles and six tackles for loss. He had 56 tackles, six tackles for loss, and two interceptions in eight games last year. Quin Blanding | S | Virginia | Senior A 358-tackle career over four seasons for a safety would be outstanding .The 6-foot-2, 205-pound Blanding has that many tackles in just three seasons with the Cavaliers. He'll check the "production" box of the scouting process, that's for sure. In 2016, he had two picks and two tackles for loss to go along with his 118 tackles. Adonis Alexander | CB | Virginia Tech | Junior Virginia Tech has sent a plethora of pro-ready cornerbacks to the league, and Alexander is next in line. At 6-foot-3 and close to 200 pounds, he has Richard Sherman-esque size and length and has reeled in six interceptions in his two years in Blacksburg. Iman Marshall | CB | USC | Junior Another corner taller than 6-foot, Marshall has six interceptions in his two years at USC (three each season) and has 17 pass breakups. He's a former five-star recruit Rivals rated the top cornerback in the country in the 2015 class. Marshall oozes athleticism. Ronnie Harrison | DB | Alabama | Junior Harrison is a 6-foot-3, 218-pound secondary menace for Alabama. He has four interceptions for the Crimson Tide in two seasons and upped his impact in 2016 by accumulating 83 tackles. Anthony Averett | DB | Alabama | SeniorThe 6-foot defensive back has played multiple positions during his time in Tuscaloosa and emerged as a reliable secondary member a season ago when he totaled 48 tackles, eight pass breakups, and two forced fumbles. He'll team with Minkah Fitzpatrick and Tony Brown to formulate a scary-good defensive backfield for the Crimson Tide this season. Jordan Thomas | DB | Oklahoma | Senior Like many Oklahoma defensive backs before him, Thomas has been a productive leader for the Sooners on the back end during his career. He has seven interceptions over the past two seasons, and although that number dipped from five to two last year, he had 17 pass breakups. At 6-foot and 192 pounds, Thomas has good size for an NFL corner. Godwin Igwebuike | S | Northwestern | Senior If you've watched a Northwestern football game over the past two seasons, Igwebuike has likely stood out. The 6-foot, 205-pound safety is as active as they come in all phases. Last year, he had three games with double-digit tackles and had fewer than five tackles in only one outing for the Wildcats. Jamar Summers | CB | UConn | Senior Summers put himself on the map with an eight-interception season in 2015. Last year, he picked off two passes but had 59 tackles, four tackles for loss, nine pass breakups and a forced fumbled -- he clearly rounded out his game. Trey Marshall | DB | Florida State | Senior In more of a full-time role than his first two seasons with the Seminoles in 2016, Marshall had 58 tackles with two tackles for loss and four pass breakups. The 6-foot corner will have plenty of opportunities to make plays this year as a member of Florida State's loaded defense. Tony Brown | CB | Alabama | Senior Another 6-foot defensive back, Brown was a key role player on Alabama's defense in 2016, recording 32 tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, two interceptions, and nine pass breakups playing next to Marlon Humphrey and Minkah Fitzpatrick. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/an-incredibly-early-look-at-the-top-100-prospects-in-the-2018-nfl-draft-1-20/

Nov 1, 2017 at 1:28 AM

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
With Robinson traded CB just moved up the list of needs

Really hoping Ahkello really shows out the rest of the year. Then we can draft one in the 2nd or 3rd to battle DJ for the #2. More likely, however, is that I'm crossing my fingers for Trumaine Johnson in the offseason

Agree with this. Add Butler and maybe Breeland in there.

Nov 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM

#107

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Would be nice if there was a rangy ballhawking FS prospect. We need to find our Earl Thomas for this defense. There are some potential CB options in FA but I don't see much in terms of FS. Think we're gonna have to find that in the draft. Maybe Armani Watts is that guy? What do all you draftnicks think about him?

Nov 1, 2017 at 7:58 PM

#108

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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Would be nice if there was a rangy ballhawking FS prospect. We need to find our Earl Thomas for this defense. There are some potential CB options in FA but I don't see much in terms of FS. Think we're gonna have to find that in the draft. Maybe Armani Watts is that guy? What do all you draftnicks think about him?

What the hell no ones interested in Justin Reid?

but honestly I like Van Smith from Clemson as far as a single high rangy FS. He plays special teams and seems to have good speed in games. Not comparing him to Earl Thomas at all though. But he could step in for the injured Ward and do just fine until he takes the position. Edit : Armani Watts will go pretty high he's good like really good. His combine numbers will be really interesting but if he tears it up I could see him going in the first. I wanted too see Jordan Whitehead from Pittsburg more this year but I haven't watched anything on him but last year he looked pretty good but kinda slow.

[ Edited by Hysterikal on Nov 1, 2017 at 8:19 PM ]

Nov 3, 2017 at 3:22 AM

#109

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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Would be nice if there was a rangy ballhawking FS prospect. We need to find our Earl Thomas for this defense. There are some potential CB options in FA but I don't see much in terms of FS. Think we're gonna have to find that in the draft. Maybe Armani Watts is that guy? What do all you draftnicks think about him?

What the hell no ones interested in Justin Reid? but honestly I like Van Smith from Clemson as far as a single high rangy FS. He plays special teams and seems to have good speed in games. Not comparing him to Earl Thomas at all though. But he could step in for the injured Ward and do just fine until he takes the position. Edit : Armani Watts will go pretty high he's good like really good. His combine numbers will be really interesting but if he tears it up I could see him going in the first. I wanted too see Jordan Whitehead from Pittsburg more this year but I haven't watched anything on him but last year he looked pretty good but kinda slow.

Round projections? Maybe target someone to groom with one of our 3rds. Same at WILL. Pass rusher and OL with first two picks.

[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Nov 3, 2017 at 3:23 AM ]

Nov 4, 2017 at 11:47 PM

#110

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CB Joshua Jackson Iowa on the radar with his 3 int performance against OSU the kid has ball skills

Jackson is the second-highest ranked cornerback in the nation, according to Pro Football Focus (behind Darius Williams of Alabama-Birmingham). The PFF crew listed Jackson as the 24th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft in its projections released Tuesday. ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. is also high on Jackson.

[ Edited by 49er_Rider on Nov 4, 2017 at 11:52 PM ]

Nov 6, 2017 at 9:54 AM

#111

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I'm really liking Armani Watts right now. I think he's exactly what we need at safety. He makes big hits like Tartt and Ward do, but he has better instincts and actually creates turnovers and makes plays behind the LOS. Tartt has been great, but I prefer Watts at FS to Ward.

Nov 6, 2017 at 10:35 AM

#112

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Just seen this kid From Texas Holtin Hill mocked in the 1st round, he's 6'3 200 lbs, and that's all I kno of him, he on anyones radar this year ?

Nov 6, 2017 at 1:06 PM

#113

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Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Would be nice if there was a rangy ballhawking FS prospect. We need to find our Earl Thomas for this defense. There are some potential CB options in FA but I don't see much in terms of FS. Think we're gonna have to find that in the draft. Maybe Armani Watts is that guy? What do all you draftnicks think about him?

What the hell no ones interested in Justin Reid? but honestly I like Van Smith from Clemson as far as a single high rangy FS. He plays special teams and seems to have good speed in games. Not comparing him to Earl Thomas at all though. But he could step in for the injured Ward and do just fine until he takes the position. Edit : Armani Watts will go pretty high he's good like really good. His combine numbers will be really interesting but if he tears it up I could see him going in the first. I wanted too see Jordan Whitehead from Pittsburg more this year but I haven't watched anything on him but last year he looked pretty good but kinda slow.

According to NFLDraftScout Van Smith is a Junior and scheduled for the 2019 draft:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1003187&draftyear=2019&genpos=FS

I do love the projected speed, do you think he's shown enough this year to declare for 2018? If the class is really weak in safeties maybe he takes a shot?

Nov 6, 2017 at 3:23 PM

#114

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Originally posted by Spike1000:
According to NFLDraftScout Van Smith is a Junior and scheduled for the 2019 draft:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1003187&draftyear=2019&genpos=FS

I do love the projected speed, do you think he's shown enough this year to declare for 2018? If the class is really weak in safeties maybe he takes a shot?

He's already won the national championship. So if he gets a good draft grade I think he would declare. Hard to say really I think juniors tend to declare more now than ever.

Nov 6, 2017 at 3:26 PM

#115

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Originally posted by jersey49er:
Just seen this kid From Texas Holtin Hill mocked in the 1st round, he's 6'3 200 lbs, and that's all I kno of him, he on anyones radar this year ?

Probably just cause he's tall and fast I'm assuming. And you know tall and fast gets overdrafted constantly.

Nov 6, 2017 at 3:36 PM

#116

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Originally posted by saniner:
I'm really liking Armani Watts right now. I think he's exactly what we need at safety. He makes big hits like Tartt and Ward do, but he has better instincts and actually creates turnovers and makes plays behind the LOS. Tartt has been great, but I prefer Watts at FS to Ward.

Me likey.

High production value on that highlight reel.

Nov 7, 2017 at 3:46 PM

#117

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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Just seen this kid From Texas Holtin Hill mocked in the 1st round, he's 6'3 200 lbs, and that's all I kno of him, he on anyones radar this year ?

Probably just cause he's tall and fast I'm assuming. And you know tall and fast gets overdrafted constantly.

Texas junior CB Holton Hill has been suspended for the remainder of the season due to a violation of team rules.

Longhorns HC Tom Herman said that Hill will be allowed to practice with the team during the suspension. Just what the starting corner did to incur the displeasure of the coaching staff is not yet known. The 6-foot-3, 200-pounder ranked second on the team with 51 tackles through nine games -- he's started all nine of those contests -- while returning both of his interceptions on the season for touchdowns. With Hill out suspended, Texas could potentially task true freshman CB Josh Thompson with an expanded role. There's at least a chance that we've seen the last of the junior in the collegiate ranks. He's eligible to jump for the draft this winter.
Source: ESPN.com Nov 7 - 5:38 PM

Oops

Nov 8, 2017 at 3:26 AM

#118

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If we strike out in FA i wouldn't mind one in the 2nd.

Nov 8, 2017 at 11:48 AM

#119

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
If we strike out in FA i wouldn't mind one in the 2nd.

Isiah Oliver

Nov 8, 2017 at 1:43 PM

#120

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
If we strike out in FA i wouldn't mind one in the 2nd.

No no, the 2nd round pick will be used to either trade back up or use for Ragnow or Price. I'm hoping CB is taken care of in either free agency or in the 3rd thru 7th rounds.