Jake Browning

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
As I've looked at next year's QB crop, I don't see it as any better than this last draft. There may be more of 'em, but that doesn't mean the quality's any better. There were solid reasons Shanahan focused on Beathard...because he played his entire Iowa career in a pro-style offense. He's tough...exceptionally smart and should thrive in Coach's offense. Based on what I saw last year, Darnold was the most dynamic QB in the country...but even after the 2017 season, he'll still be a sophomore. Browning's just one of the QB's that'll get way overdrafted...but not by Lynch, I guarantee that.

I'd like to hear what your thoughts on Darnold are because I frankly do not buy into his hype.

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
As I've looked at next year's QB crop, I don't see it as any better than this last draft. There may be more of 'em, but that doesn't mean the quality's any better. There were solid reasons Shanahan focused on Beathard...because he played his entire Iowa career in a pro-style offense. He's tough...exceptionally smart and should thrive in Coach's offense. Based on what I saw last year, Darnold was the most dynamic QB in the country...but even after the 2017 season, he'll still be a sophomore. Browning's just one of the QB's that'll get way overdrafted...but not by Lynch, I guarantee that.

Rosen and Darnold are good prospects but if those guys underperform or stay in school, next year's QB class could be easily worse than this recent one. Its getting a lot of hype but I'm not seeing how that hype is justified. Maybe a deeper QB draft but doesn't mean it will be a better one. Time will tell.

This kid will stay all four years and be an absolute stud.

Originally posted by sacniner:

This kid will stay all four years and be an absolute stud.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:
This kid will stay all four years and be an absolute stud.

The homie needs to improve his arm strength, and he knows it. Between the ears doe, shiiiit kid is got it. Also, accurate as hell. Like a better version of Joe Montana. Although, I am biased because he is a local kid

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Player against this guy in high school. Damn good player, arm is a serious question. Would have to play in a place with good weather or indoors.

Unreal in HS. What was it, 90 TD's in one season and won the CA state championship. I live near Folsom. But a lot of that was from being in the same system since pop warner and the same coach moved up with him. Browning could have ran that offense with his eyes closed.

Oh yeah he was and is a hell of a player. If he had good arm strength I think he would be the best qb going into next years draft. I think he is super efficient and accurate with a smart football iq. You can always improve your arm strength through fixing up your mechanics and building up your muscle. But he has the rest of the tools.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Oh yeah he was and is a hell of a player. If he had good arm strength I think he would be the best qb going into next years draft. I think he is super efficient and accurate with a smart football iq. You can always improve your arm strength through fixing up your mechanics and building up your muscle. But he has the rest of the tools.

Tom Candiotti couldn't throw a 90 mph fastball to save his life. There's a limit to everything. Some guys will just never have great or even good throwing velocity. Blame it on the genetics. Browning could stay in school for a couple years, bulk up, work on his mechanics and he still might not have an NFL caliber arm. Its just a reality of life. Right now I know he doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, will that change in a couple of years? Only time will tell but I doubt it.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Oh yeah he was and is a hell of a player. If he had good arm strength I think he would be the best qb going into next years draft. I think he is super efficient and accurate with a smart football iq. You can always improve your arm strength through fixing up your mechanics and building up your muscle. But he has the rest of the tools.

Tom Candiotti couldn't throw a 90 mph fastball to save his life. There's a limit to everything. Some guys will just never have great or even good throwing velocity. Blame it on the genetics. Browning could stay in school for a couple years, bulk up, work on his mechanics and he still might not have an NFL caliber arm. Its just a reality of life. Right now I know he doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, will that change in a couple of years? Only time will tell but I doubt it.

Oh I dont think it will dramatically improve but he could make it work. Of course he won't have Kaps arm or maybe even Smith's arm but I think he can make it work it a good coach.

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Oh yeah he was and is a hell of a player. If he had good arm strength I think he would be the best qb going into next years draft. I think he is super efficient and accurate with a smart football iq. You can always improve your arm strength through fixing up your mechanics and building up your muscle. But he has the rest of the tools.

Tom Candiotti couldn't throw a 90 mph fastball to save his life. There's a limit to everything. Some guys will just never have great or even good throwing velocity. Blame it on the genetics. Browning could stay in school for a couple years, bulk up, work on his mechanics and he still might not have an NFL caliber arm. Its just a reality of life. Right now I know he doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, will that change in a couple of years? Only time will tell but I doubt it.

Oh I dont think it will dramatically improve but he could make it work. Of course he won't have Kaps arm or maybe even Smith's arm but I think he can make it work it a good coach.

I was on the sideline for a Huskies practice, and he was getting eaten alive by his defense. Most NCAA defenders don't study tape like NFL players will, so I think it's a pretty good indicator to watch how college players do against their own defenses. Their familiarity approximates NFL film study. He was unable to sustain a scoring drive, and the UW coaches structure practice to have at least 3 separate team sessions throughout practice. The first drive was an "offense wins" period where DBs weren't allowed to elevate for 50/50 balls and the DL couldn't tag off for a sack, and he still got picked by a safety who had all day to run down one of Browning's rainbows. He actually got intercepted twice, and one of them got negated by a BS penalty they called to keep the drive rolling. The longest drive was propped up by three penalties and a BS ruling that a non-catch was actually a catch. It was grossly one-sided.

Shanahan wants a guy who was born to throw. Even if this guy builds his arm up to a Pennington type of serviceable arm, he won't ever be that guy who was born to throw. When throwing is your job, it shouldn't be that hard to do it well.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

I was on the sideline for a Huskies practice, and he was getting eaten alive by his defense. Most NCAA defenders don't study tape like NFL players will, so I think it's a pretty good indicator to watch how college players do against their own defenses. Their familiarity approximates NFL film study. He was unable to sustain a scoring drive, and the UW coaches structure practice to have at least 3 separate team sessions throughout practice. The first drive was an "offense wins" period where DBs weren't allowed to elevate for 50/50 balls and the DL couldn't tag off for a sack, and he still got picked by a safety who had all day to run down one of Browning's rainbows. He actually got intercepted twice, and one of them got negated by a BS penalty they called to keep the drive rolling. The longest drive was propped up by three penalties and a BS ruling that a non-catch was actually a catch. It was grossly one-sided.

Shanahan wants a guy who was born to throw. Even if this guy builds his arm up to a Pennington type of serviceable arm, he won't ever be that guy who was born to throw. When throwing is your job, it shouldn't be that hard to do it well.

Eek that's the problem with a lot of Peterson QBs. Will put up historic numbers in college and are super accurate, but have negative arm strength. I'm probably biased cause he's local lol.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:
This kid will stay all four years and be an absolute stud.

The homie needs to improve his arm strength, and he knows it. Between the ears doe, shiiiit kid is got it. Also, accurate as hell. Like a better version of Joe Montana. Although, I am biased because he is a local kid

A lot is being made of Jake Browning's noodle arm, but I'm actually higher on him than most prognosticators I don't think his arm is as bad as people say. And arm strength is something that you can actually improve with weight training (although you have to be careful not to over-do it and get injured).

For a drastic increase in atm strength (velocity), look to Aaron Rodgers. His jump in arm strength from college to NFL was insane

Originally posted by sacniner:

For a drastic increase in atm strength (velocity), look to Aaron Rodgers. His jump in arm strength from college to NFL was insane

Yeah what happened there??? Was it needle time once he got to the pros? I don't know but his improvement in arm strength was definitely drastic.

Originally posted by sacniner:

For a drastic increase in atm strength (velocity), look to Aaron Rodgers. His jump in arm strength from college to NFL was insane

Had little to do with his arm strength and all to do with mechanics. As for Browning, mechanics cannot fix a weak arm.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Oh yeah he was and is a hell of a player. If he had good arm strength I think he would be the best qb going into next years draft. I think he is super efficient and accurate with a smart football iq. You can always improve your arm strength through fixing up your mechanics and building up your muscle. But he has the rest of the tools.

Tom Candiotti couldn't throw a 90 mph fastball to save his life. There's a limit to everything. Some guys will just never have great or even good throwing velocity. Blame it on the genetics. Browning could stay in school for a couple years, bulk up, work on his mechanics and he still might not have an NFL caliber arm. Its just a reality of life. Right now I know he doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, will that change in a couple of years? Only time will tell but I doubt it.

Oh I dont think it will dramatically improve but he could make it work. Of course he won't have Kaps arm or maybe even Smith's arm but I think he can make it work it a good coach.

I was on the sideline for a Huskies practice, and he was getting eaten alive by his defense. Most NCAA defenders don't study tape like NFL players will, so I think it's a pretty good indicator to watch how college players do against their own defenses. Their familiarity approximates NFL film study. He was unable to sustain a scoring drive, and the UW coaches structure practice to have at least 3 separate team sessions throughout practice. The first drive was an "offense wins" period where DBs weren't allowed to elevate for 50/50 balls and the DL couldn't tag off for a sack, and he still got picked by a safety who had all day to run down one of Browning's rainbows. He actually got intercepted twice, and one of them got negated by a BS penalty they called to keep the drive rolling. The longest drive was propped up by three penalties and a BS ruling that a non-catch was actually a catch. It was grossly one-sided.

Shanahan wants a guy who was born to throw. Even if this guy builds his arm up to a Pennington type of serviceable arm, he won't ever be that guy who was born to throw. When throwing is your job, it shouldn't be that hard to do it well.

Great insight! Thanks man