MadDog49er 2017 Big 253 Board April 23 2017

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

It's all you, this year, buddy. Frustratingly, I just didn't have time to complete my big board this year. Sticking to positional ranks this time around. Either way, it's going to be a fun ride through this weekend.

Leaving me on an island again, eh? I'll keep the seat warm for you until you return in full force

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by highway49:

Hey MadDog, just wondering what round you see Tanner Vallejo Boise State LB. going in ? You have him at 228 on your board. His father and I are friends as we work together. Thanks for your thoughts in advance

Somewhere in the 6th or 7th. The kind of player that makes the team on special teams and then tries to get some playing time on defense. Good colllege player. High effort guy. A lot to cheer for

Yes, his family are really good people, and his father is a fire department Captain. Tanner had some injury issues this past Couple seasons, but played through them,he also had a pretty good combine. It would be nice if he whent higher, but they know it's out of their hands on where he goes. They are going to have a family get together and I know they are all very proud that he's in the mix.

As always,thanks

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

How would you feel if Adams was the pick at two?

Too early and too many better players in front. Plus, we don't need another SS

I agree for sure...I just have this feeling if we don't move he's gonna be the pick and I hate it

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

How would you feel if Adams was the pick at two?

Too early and too many better players in front. Plus, we don't need another SS

I agree for sure...I just have this feeling if we don't move he's gonna be the pick and I hate it

This is why I dont pay much attention to analysis and evaluation coming from webzone members, Adams is universally considered a cant miss top 5 pick and some of the paid experts consider him the 2nd best overall prospect.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How would you feel if Adams was the pick at two?

Too early and too many better players in front. Plus, we don't need another SS

I agree for sure...I just have this feeling if we don't move he's gonna be the pick and I hate it

This is why I dont pay much attention to analysis and evaluation coming from webzone members, Adams is universally considered a cant miss top 5 pick and some of the paid experts consider him the 2nd best overall prospect.

oh okay then don't come in here pretty simple

Conley slips to ... ?

Conley slips to....I have no idea. Each team will have to conduct their own investigation to see if there is any merit to the story. A lot to sift through in the next 24 hours.

If he is completely innocent of these charges, it would be a horrible shame, as millions of dollars are on the line. I am sure that if this girl has hired herself a lawyer that the lawyer will tell her to be completely honest, because if I am Conley's attorney, I am filing a lawsuit immediately.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

How would you feel if Adams was the pick at two?

Too early and too many better players in front. Plus, we don't need another SS

I agree for sure...I just have this feeling if we don't move he's gonna be the pick and I hate it

This is why I dont pay much attention to analysis and evaluation coming from webzone members, Adams is universally considered a cant miss top 5 pick and some of the paid experts consider him the 2nd best overall prospect.

oh okay then don't come in here pretty simple

Lol. Well you're gonna hate someone that Lynch(a former safety) and Shanny(who might wanna go offense) decide on? You'll look silly AF and you're too good of a poster to be against something like that haha.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Lol. Well you're gonna hate someone that Lynch(a former safety) and Shanny(who might wanna go offense) decide on? You'll look silly AF and you're too good of a poster to be against something like that haha.

I've stated over and over I'm gonna support whomever is the pick...I have a preference just like everyone else

With Adams I see a similar player in Reid when he came out of college...

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Question to ponder for fans who love Leonard Fournette: Why did LSU's Derrius Guice average 1.1 more yards per carry than Fournette in 2016?

Guice is a tremendous back, but are both guys a product of a studly run blocking unit at LSU?

They're both awesome RBs behind a pretty good offensive line. LSU thought Fournette was better which is why they relied on him against their best opponents even though he was banged up. Hard to penalize him that much for having a stud teammate at the same position.

Fournette averaged 6.5 YPC against a ridiculous schedule considering he missed the Missouri and Jacksonville State games which is a very good number. He would have averaged more if he was fully healthy this year and able to play the rest of his schedule. I don't expect Guice to average 7.5 YPC again in his career now that he's the primary RB and will have to carry the ball against Alabama.

Some reasons Guice had more YPC than Fournette include:

• Fournette played hurt this year.
• Guice had more carries late in games after the two of them had worn down defenses, especially in games LSU was up big (up big in the 4th quarter, there was no reason to risk Fournette to injuries).
• Fournette had the majority of carries against the best defense LSU faced.

Wisconsin, Auburn, Alabama, and Florida were the four best defenses they played all year. Fournette had 68 carries in those games (more than half his 129 carries on the year). Guice only had 26 of his 183 carries in those games. For all intensive purposes, Fournette played against a much tougher schedule than Guice even though they're on the same team.

Having said that, it's hard to call Fournette a once in a generation player when there are guys like Saquon Barkley and Derrius Guice coming out next year who aren't far off. Right now there are a lot of good RBs in the league and a lot more coming into the league so I can't see Fournette being a good value at 2.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I agree for sure...I just have this feeling if we don't move he's gonna be the pick and I hate it

Like Mike Lombardi said a couple of days ago, the names you are hearing to the Niners are not what they appear.

I can say with some certainty, the pick will be somewhat of a surprise, but make sense when you break it down. Unless, they pick Solly Thomas which would be a very good, but boring choice.

Did the personal best board come out?

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Question to ponder for fans who love Leonard Fournette: Why did LSU's Derrius Guice average 1.1 more yards per carry than Fournette in 2016?

Guice is a tremendous back, but are both guys a product of a studly run blocking unit at LSU?

I'm not a fan of Fournette, he's a good prospect but I wouldn't draft him till mid 2nd round. If it is true the Niners love him and for some reason end up picking him with their 1st round pick I have to wonder if they plan on running a lot more inside zone because I can't seem to think Lynch and Shanny would believe he's a good fit for the stretch zone scheme Shanny runs. Maybe they feel he's a player you adjust your scheme to because of his talent? Also with the size of our RG (Garnett) and RT (Brown) Shanny feels inside zone fits our strengths better than his stretch preference? Anyone think this is a possibility??

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I agree for sure...I just have this feeling if we don't move he's gonna be the pick and I hate it

Like Mike Lombardi said a couple of days ago, the names you are hearing to the Niners are not what they appear.

I can say with some certainty, the pick will be somewhat of a surprise, but make sense when you break it down. Unless, they pick Solly Thomas which would be a very good, but boring choice.

Is there a link to the Lombardi interview/article?

I'm thinking/hoping that the Fournette/Adams talk is Lynch doing his due diligence on seeing which team in the top 10 (or so) wants to move up. A little extra ammo could help them grab some guys they really want on day 2.

IMO Thomas is a safe first pick for Lynch. But, we'll see what happens.

MadDog, What is your take on Derek Rivers? How does he stack up with Basham ? Thanks for your input.