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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:09 PM

#4096

Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

I'd rather just keep him

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM

#4097

GMniner805
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Well...

Looks like we're drafting a TE...

Thats the first thought that crossed my mind, the 49ers most iikely will target a TE rounds 2-4.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM

#4098

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Originally posted by Butter:
What are the chances the Niners trade up for Peterman? Im torn. The Niners have a LOT of needs. If there is a chance the Niners are able to get Cousins next year, maybe they're better off waiting.

If Petermen falls to their 3rd, pull the trigger. If not, bank on Cousins, or possible trade up in next years draft. Worst case scenario, roll the dice on Kaaya in the 4th. He could be a low cost developmental QB.

If they like Peterman then they will trade up for him. We can't count on Cousins being available next year

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM

#4099

GMniner805
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

I'd rather just keep him

Not with his current contract

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:15 PM

#4100

Shifty
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Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

I'd rather just keep him

Not with his current contract

Even though he just signed it, I wonder if we can re-work it so a lot more of the contract is front loaded to this year

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:15 PM

#4101

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Vance McDonald had a better season that Vernon Davis in 2014, and he's also younger than how old Davis was at the time.

We only got two 6ths, though. And had to trade a 7th.

Who really, really needs a tight end? Perhaps we could get a 5th shortly after #150 if a team bites. Could also be a piece to move up with.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:15 PM

#4102

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Giants tried to trade up for Mahomes as well.

Man this Mahomes guy had more love than I thought lol

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:16 PM

#4103

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Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes agoMore

Giants tried to trade up for for QB Patrick Mahomes and were "very disappointed" they weren't able to get it done, per @AnitaMarks.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM

#4104

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"NFL draft: 49ers may seek tight end surplus"

"Coach Kyle Shanahan makes sure to use tight ends, so business should be picking up for Vance McDonald and Garrett Celek, two of the 49ers' longest tenured players.

But with injuries often hindering them the past few seasons, the 49ers might want to dip into the draft for a prospect they can groom."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/24/nfl-draft-49ers-may-seek-tight-end-surplus/amp/

Trust me fellas, Matt Ryan was my qb in fantasy.. I drafted Austin Hooper.. Tight ends are his foundation to his offense...

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:18 PM

#4105

Shifty
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Originally posted by slowriot:
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes agoMore

Giants tried to trade up for for QB Patrick Mahomes and were "very disappointed" they weren't able to get it done, per @AnitaMarks.

Crazy, no idea he was that in demand

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:18 PM

#4106

GMniner805
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

I'd rather just keep him

Not with his current contract

Even though he just signed it, I wonder if we can re-work it so a lot more of the contract is front loaded to this year

At this point that is an outstanding question, I'll consider Lynch a god if he can move McDonald contact as is.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:18 PM

#4107

sam0ah
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McDonald a smokescreen?

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:20 PM

#4108

Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by GMniner805:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

I'd rather just keep him

Not with his current contract

Yeah but they have more than enough money to absorb it. He's definitely flawed, but he showed some good stuff last year and I thought he could be a weapon in Shannahans system.....but I guess KS feels otherwise lol

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:22 PM

#4109

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Originally posted by Andra:
Originally posted by Niners418:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

These guys aren't messing around!

Am I lying to you guys???

He wants his tight end..

Wonder if that has anything to do with barnidge? Would love to sign him and add an athletic TE in the draft

I'm hoping that they are wanting to draft Bucky Hodges.

If Budda Baker sits there much longer, one of those 3rds will be used to trade up for him.

That other one is for Bucky. He's my TE crush.

Alternates: Carl Lawson (trade up) or Tim Williams.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:23 PM

#4110

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Originally posted by Butter:
What are the chances the Niners trade up for Peterman? Im torn. The Niners have a LOT of needs. If there is a chance the Niners are able to get Cousins next year, maybe they're better off waiting.

If Petermen falls to their 3rd, pull the trigger. If not, bank on Cousins, or possible trade up in next years draft. Worst case scenario, roll the dice on Kaaya in the 4th. He could be a low cost developmental QB.

I'd love to grab a QB with the next pick. It gives you a lot of flexibility. 2nd & 3rd round guys aren't pressured to start right away so you can play Hoyer if needed or push them into action mid season if Hoyer is terrible. Also next year if Cousins is available you could still get him and keep the 2nd year guy as backup and nobody would bat an eye. Also if you hit on guy like Peterson, Kaaya, Davis, Kizer you don't have to pay Cousins $24M a year for 4-5 years.