If Lynch were to trade down from #2, what team would trade for who?

I could see a team like Jax moving up a couple spots to grab Allen. It would cost them their second rounder (36).

I could see the Jets moving up to grab a number of guys ... Fournette or a QB. That would cost them their 2nd this year and their 2nd and 3rd next year.

Beyond that not sure who would mortgage the future for a guy in this draft class. Unless a team falls in love with a QB. But there aren't many teams that need one badly enough to pull the trigger - Houston? Buffalo?

IMO, the only way teams will consider trading up for the #2 pick is if the Browns wiffed again and draft a QB causing Garrett to drop to #2 overall. Other than that there's nobody that is worth trading up for.

Trade with the Jets, then draft Mike Williams

+ 1 for the Jets. I really only want to do it if we get their 2018 1st, as someone mentioned earlier. I could see them being bad again. Try and use that to get our QB next year if we don't like anyone high this year.

The player id want, as of now, is Solomon Thomas. Not sure what would happen with Armstead, I just think Thomas and Buckner are awesome building blocks to start a D with. Doesn't exactly fill a need, I just think it's BPA and justified if we get a 1st next year.

A look at trades out of the top 5 over the last 10 years-

In the last 10 years, six teams have traded out of a top-five draft spot. One of them traded out but still stayed in the top five.

With the Tennessee Titans second in the draft order and a possible scenario where they don't want a quarterback but someone might want to trade up for them, I set out to look at those six trades. (Thanks to Evan Kaplan of ESPN Stats and Info for the help.)

Here is a run through of each of the trades, and a look at how the two teams involved fared the next season. The changes in records were hardly a result of only the trade. Bad teams draft at the top and make a lot of changes. They often regress to the mean. Still, we want some sense of how much, or how little, things improved.

2014 -- Cleveland Browns trade out of No. 4 with Buffalo Bills

The deal: The Bills took Clemson receiver Sammy Watkins. The Browns dropped down to No. 9 and got 2015 first- and fourth-rounders. They then traded up to No. 8 with Minnesota (cornerback Justin Gilbert), giving up a fifth-rounder. The 2015 first rounder is No. 19.

Review: Watkins started all 16 games, catching 65 passes for 982 yards and six TDs, but other less costly rookie receivers did better or as well -- Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr., and Kelvin Benjamin. Gilbert had a troubled rookie season and the team said it recently learned of a personal issue that contributed.

The Browns improved by three games.

The Bills improved by three games.

2013 -- Oakland Raiders trade out of No. 3 with Miami Dolphins

The deal: The Dolphins took defensive end Dion Jordan. The Raiders got No. 12 (cornerback D.J. Hayden) and a second-rounder (tackle Menelik Watson).

Review: Jordan has three sacks in 26 games. Hayden has two interceptions in 18 games and Watson has 12 starts in two seasons.

The Dolphins improved by a game.

The Raiders' record didn't change.

2012 -- St. Louis Rams trade out of No. 2 with Washington

The deal: Washington took quarterback Robert Griffin III. The Rams got No. 6, a second-rounder (cornerback Janoris Jenkins), No. 22 in 2013 and No. 2 in 2014 (tackle Greg Robinson). St. Louis traded No. 6 in 2012 to Dallas for No. 14 (defensive tackle Michael Brockers) and a second-rounder. The Rams traded that second-rounder to the Bears for a second-rounder (running back Isaiah Pead) and a fifth-rounder (tackle Rokevious Watkins). The Rams traded No. 22 in 2013 and a seventh-rounder to Atlanta for No. 30 (linebacker Alec Ogletree), a third-rounder (receiver Stedman Bailey) and a sixth rounder. They packaged the sixth-rounder to get a fifth-rounder (running back Zac Stacy).

Review: Griffin was fantastic as a rookie with 20 touchdown passes, seven touchdown runs and just five interceptions while leading Washington to the playoffs. The two years since have raised all sorts of flags. The Rams got 66 starts and 89 games out of six players still with the team in 2014. Brockers, Robinson, Ogletree and Jenkins are starters.

The Rams improved by five games.

Washington improved by five games.

2012 -- Minnesota Vikings trade out of No. 3 with the Browns

The deal: The Browns took running back Trent Richardson. The Vikings got No. 4 (tackle Matt Kalil), a fourth-rounder (receiver Jarius Wright), a fifth-rounder (defensive back Robert Blanton) and a seventh-rounder (traded to the Titans for a 2013 sixth-rounder they used on end Scott Solomon). The Vikings' sixth-rounder ultimately went to Arizona for cornerback A.J. Jefferson and a seventh-rounder (linebacker Michael Mauti).

Review: Cleveland traded Richardson after just 17 starts, getting a 2014 first-rounder from the Indianapolis Colts for him. The Browns traded what wound up No. 26 and a third-rounder to Philadelphia for No. 22 and took quarterback Johnny Manziel. The Vikings got 36 starts in 2014 from three of the players obtained with picks from the trade.

The Browns improved by one game.

The Vikings improved by seven games.

2012 -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers trade out of No. 5 with the Jacksonville Jaguars

The deal: The Jaguars took receiver Justin Blackmon. The Buccaneers got No. 7 (safety Mark Barron) and a fourth-round pick they used in package in a trade with Denver.

Review: Blackmon caught 93 passes in 20 games, but the troubled receiver was suspended by the NFL for the first four games of 2013, played in four games and was then indefinitely suspended. He has not played again. Barron has started 46 games in three seasons. The Bucs traded him to St. Louis during the 2014 season for fourth-and sixth-round picks.

The Buccaneers improved by three games.

The Jaguars got three games worse.

2009 -- Browns trade out of No. 5 with New York Jets

The deal: The Jets took quarterback Mark Sanchez. The Browns got No. 17, a second-rounder (defensive end David Veikune) and three veterans: Safety Abram Elam, quarterback Brett Ratliff and end Kenyon Coleman. Cleveland traded No. 17 to Tampa Bay for No. 21 and a sixth-rounder (defensive back Coye Francies). The Browns traded No. 21 to Philadelphia for No. 24 (center Alex Mack) and a sixth-rounder (running back James Davis).

Review: Sanchez helped the Jets make it to the AFC Championship Game in his first two seasons and was their starter for four years. He was with Philadelphia in 2014 and is set to be a free agent. Mack started every game over his first five seasons, earning two Pro Bowl selections and one second-team All-Pro nod. The other six players the Browns got out of the trade combined for 58 starts and 83 games. None are still with the team.

The Browns improved by one game.

The Jets posted the same record but went to the playoffs.

http://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/12560/a-look-at-trades-out-of-the-top-5-over-the-last-10-years

If he browns don't trade their picks for a qb it's very plausible they might want the first two picks in the draft

It's such a Cleveland move

Originally posted by Boldjames:
If he browns don't trade their picks for a qb it's very plausible they might want the first two picks in the draft

It's such a Cleveland move

If they're willing to give up a s**tload of picks, I hope Shanahan/Lynch do it and stock up for next year.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Tennessee would laugh their asses off at that proposal. They have their franchise QB. Why trade up a few spots to get one guy when you can grab two impact player?


It's not happening.

Yeah, they are really going to have to LOVE a guy to part with both firsts in an attempt to move up.

They also have no second rounder but do have 2 third rounders.

Try to get Titans 2 # 1

A team that is desperate for a QB. Tops 2 picks are usually not traded for any position other than QB.

DREAM SCENARIO!!
Browns whiffed again draft a QB/Allen with #1 overall causing Garrett to fall to #2.

DREAM TRADE:
Trade: #2 overall, 6th rd(#186), Torrey Smith and Kilgore to Tennessee Titans to get Garrett

Receive: #5,#18,3rd(#69),4th(#125), 2018 2nd rd, and DELANIE WALKER

RESULT:
2017 DRAFT PICKS:
1a.(#5): Corey Davis (WR)
1b.(#18): Haason Reddick (LB)
2. (#34): Patrick Mahomes (QB)
3a.(#66): Alvin Kamara (RB)
3b.(#69): Dion Dawkins (G/C)
4a.(#109): Zay Jones (WR)
4b.(#125): Ahkello Witherspoon (CB)
4c.(#143): Ejuan Price (OLB)
5a.(#146): Zane Gonzales (K)
5b.(#161): Adam Shaheen (TE)
6. (#202): Stevie Tuikolovatu (NT)
7. (#219): Roderick Henderson (NT)

FREE AGENCY:
Melvin Ingram (EDGE)
Nick Mangold (C)
T.J Lang (RG)
Brandon Williams (NT)
Pierre Garcon (WR)
Bryan Hoyer (QB)
Matt Schaub (QB)

Again, it's just a DREAM SCENARIO/MOCK for me. But at least we got Delanie Walker back. Hahahaha!!

Jets moving up to #1 for their choice of QB. Probably Trubisky. Leaving us with (altogether now) Garrett!

Originally posted by valrod33:
Trade with the Jets, then draft Mike Williams

Originally posted by strickac:

Completely disagree...

The Skins will try to keep Cousins, certainly. If we care about winning we'all try to secure the best QB possible. Kyle is also a fan of Cousins and knows what he's getting.

IF we want him it'll cost some picks (or we wait until next year). Swapping #2 for #17 and landing a franchise QB is worth it all day IMO. I'll take Cousins and another 1st round talent over a developmental QB.

You're basically saying we should just continue to suck for the next couple years to improve our draft picks, then whoever we pick at #2 this year will miraculously be ready to turn the franchise around 3 years from now.

No thanks. If we can get a proven commodity and a franchise QB now, you jump at the chance. After dumping Kaepernick, Cousins' contract barely impacts our cap. We still will be an excellent shape.

Cousins and #17 >>>>>> developmental QB

Agreed, esp. over these damn spread and air raid QB's who will need an extra year of development on top of the 3 it takes to master the WCO...took 2.5 years for KC's to sit and learn and he still hasn't mastered it...neither has Ryan.

A FQB is a QB that puts you in position to stay competitive during a rebuild and within striking distance of winning a Superbowl annually when more talent is added. That doesn't mean they always will win it (see, Brady, Wilson, Manning, etc.) but they'll give you a fighting chance.

If you have a rare chance to get one, you do it. Period. ShanaLynch's job depends on it.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

This. Rivers has been one of the best QBs in the league for a long time and has had a much more talented roster than the 2016 49ers. You need more than just a QB.

True...and like us, they have also been raped by injuries too, especially last year.