Solomon Thomas--Stanford

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Donald was 6'1 285 at the combine. Even if Thomas gained 12 pounds to hit 6'3 285, he'd still be significantly thinner than Donald. Not to mention Donald has probably put on weight since he entered the league, so you'd be asking Thomas to put on 20+ pounds. That doesn't work for everyone and Thomas wasn't close to as productive in college as Donald.

Thomas is a versatile player and would find a spot on the field on every down -- I'd be happy with picking him at 2, but I don't expect him to be the 2nd coming of Aaron Donald who is one of the 4-5 best defensive players in the league.

Aaron is currently 285 according to his profile so don't make that up why can't he put on 10 more lbs if need be? He's got the frame for it...he's just a strong and quicker than aaron plus more athletic.

I don't see it to far off at all to be honest.

Originally posted by jcs:

We have 4 guys on this roster (Brooks, Carradine, Harold, Lynch) that can help as a pass rush by committee approach off the edge. See if the competition brings out the best in them.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

If we were to go the Thomas route we'd want to flip Buckner to 3 and play Thomas like Bennett at 5. It's certainly doable I just think we'd have to invest so much into the line because you still need some great edge rushers.

We have 4 guys on this roster (Brooks, Carradine, Harold, Lynch) that can help as a pass rush by committee approach off the edge. See if the competition brings out the best in them.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by jcs:
We have 4 guys on this roster (Brooks, Carradine, Harold, Lynch) that can help as a pass rush by committee approach off the edge. See if the competition brings out the best in them.

Ouch. We'll address it next year I guess. Which we'll likely have to do anyways because there's no Beasley.

Originally posted by jcs:
We have 4 guys on this roster (Brooks, Carradine, Harold, Lynch) that can help as a pass rush by committee approach off the edge. See if the competition brings out the best in them.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

This isn't the fab 5 we got to address other needs too. I see no reason why a 3 tech is worth the #2 pick even if we can move around a little bit. It would be one thing if Thomas was the ideal Leo/ Sam prospect but he's not. It would be one thing if we could play him in the Bennett role but we already got a stud there. I just don't see the value.

have him add like 8 lbs and turn him into a aaron Donald type player.

Thomas lined up from the zero to 9 tech for Stanford...we will be in nickle a ton so having a guy that can ability to stop the run plus rush the passer from inside or outside will make him a highly coveted player worth a top pick

I'll add id rather move down cause we need help all over but if not this is my pick

Donald was 6'1 285 at the combine. Even if Thomas gained 12 pounds to hit 6'3 285, he'd still be significantly thinner than Donald. Not to mention Donald has probably put on weight since he entered the league, so you'd be asking Thomas to put on 20+ pounds. That doesn't work for everyone and Thomas wasn't close to as productive in college as Donald.

Thomas is a versatile player and would find a spot on the field on every down -- I'd be happy with picking him at 2, but I don't expect him to be the 2nd coming of Aaron Donald who is one of the 4-5 best defensive players in the league.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by jcs:

We have 4 guys on this roster (Brooks, Carradine, Harold, Lynch) that can help as a pass rush by committee approach off the edge. See if the competition brings out the best in them.

We've relied on those 4 guys to provide pass rush the past 2 years, and the results have been bad. Very bad. I wouldn't count on them to provide much of anything in terms of pass rush. Along with franchise Quarterback, pass rush is the most pressing need at the moment.

Originally posted by LottOfDefense:

Can he play LEO/elephant role? He sounds perfect for it at 6'3'' 270 with strong hands because he is a tweener and can line up all over. At Stanford they ran a lot of stunts and if I am not mistaken that is what Carroll does a lot.

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

- Arik Armstead plays 30% of the snaps behind Earl Mitchell who gets about 40% at 3 tech DT.
- Draft CB Marshon Lattimore in round 1
- Draft LEO Jordan Willis in round 2
- Draft NT Dalvin Tomlinson in round 3

Our division has David Johnson, Todd Gurley, Thomas Rawls and Eddie Lacy. If we can't stop the run we might as well not even show up on Sundays.

LDE- Deforest Buckner - Ronald Blair
NT- Dalvin Tomlinson - Quinton Dial
DT- Earl Mitchell- Arik Armstead
LEO- Aaron Lynch - Jordan Willis

WOLB- Malcolm Smith
MLB- Navarro Bowman
SOLB- Ahmad Brooks

Originally posted by jreff22:
Short answer...no.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Short answer...no.

why?

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Short answer...no.

why?

Because he's never played the position. No matter how much you think he can, HE'S NEVER PLAYED LEO. He is an interior rusher on passing downs.

His combine numbers cannot be used to prove something he's never done.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Short answer...no.

why?

Because he's never played the position. No matter how much you think he can, HE'S NEVER PLAYED LEO. He is an interior rusher on passing downs.

His combine numbers cannot be used to prove something he's never done.

Yeah but his combine results might show a potential role regardless of his college position. That being said, he's a DE not a LEO

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by jreff22:
Short answer...no.

why?

Because he's never played the position. No matter how much you think he can, HE'S NEVER PLAYED LEO. He is an interior rusher on passing downs.

His combine numbers cannot be used to prove something he's never done.