I think, we should pass to Quartback.

Only if Garrett is there at #2. Franchise Pass rusher is as almost as important as QB and just as difficult to find.

And who's throwing the ball? We have not one single qb on the roster in 2017 as of now.

Originally posted by jcs:

Only if Garrett is there at #2. Franchise Pass rusher is as almost as important as QB and just as difficult to find.

If Garrett is there at #1 then we should trade down for two of 1st round or depend if we need pick more or not. And if we will grab to special the player talent. Wait n see in summer. We will keep discuss later and soon later. We have plenty time in summer.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

And who's throwing the ball? We have not one single qb on the roster in 2017 as of now.

I think, we need first draft the defense for build up then Draft the best Quartback at 2018 better than 2017. We can loss games and draft the top again at 2018. We need be patience our team building up first. We can chill and having fun next year.

I know there are a bunch of guys in the media that think you should draft a QB and keep drafting them until you hit on one. I TOTALLY DISAGREE. Teams that do this are perpetually garbage. You take franchise caliber players when drafting this high...take the for sure guys or at least those with the least risk among the top 5 guys in the draft. This is how you build.

When there is a Andrew Luck in the draft you take him. When a QB is worth the top pick it is obvious. It was obvious with Rogers too; totally unreal he fell that far. He should have been the #1 pick easily.

Also, you can take QB's anywhere in the draft, not just with a top first round pick. The idea that you must take one with the 2nd pick is total and complete nonsense. That type of inflating the player due to need and taking that player with a high pick is just stupid.

Yeah, I'm talking to you Kevin Jones. The facts show that the above position is correct. Obviously, everyone agrees that teams are not right until they get "their" quarterback, but inflating players based on need is how you stay in the gutter.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

And who's throwing the ball? We have not one single qb on the roster in 2017 as of now.

If we draft to Waston or Kizer or Trubisky if they are bust or not. Who never know if we are waste draft the bust. I hate the waste again over years. I hope, 49ers should loss games again and draft the top again at 2018 then draft the top QB at 2018 better than 2017

Originally posted by bigwads:

I know there are a bunch of guys in the media that think you should draft a QB and keep drafting them until you hit on one. I TOTALLY DISAGREE. Teams that do this are perpetually garbage. You take franchise caliber players when drafting this high...take the for sure guys or at least those with the least risk among the top 5 guys in the draft. This is how you build.

When there is a Andrew Luck in the draft you take him. When a QB is worth the top pick it is obvious. It was obvious with Rogers too; totally unreal he fell that far. He should have been the #1 pick easily.

Also, you can take QB's anywhere in the draft, not just with a top first round pick.

Except your odds of finding one get progressively worse the lower in the draft that you go.


The idea that you wait until there is an Andrew Luck type QB to draft a QB to me is asinine. How often do those guys come around? Most of the top QBs in the NFL werent "homerun" type picks but guys with a myriad of questions due to physical talent, size, competition, system or a number of other factors.

If every team went by that standard, a handful of teams in the NFL would have QBs. Even Rodgers came with questions which is why he fell into the bottom part of the 1st round.


If youre waiting for that "perfect, can't miss" QB prospect you will be waiting for a long time and you'd better arrange to have the #1 draft pick ahead of time for when they arrive.

Originally posted by bigwads:

I know there are a bunch of guys in the media that think you should draft a QB and keep drafting them until you hit on one. I TOTALLY DISAGREE. Teams that do this are perpetually garbage. You take franchise caliber players when drafting this high...take the for sure guys or at least those with the least risk among the top 5 guys in the draft. This is how you build.

When there is a Andrew Luck in the draft you take him. When a QB is worth the top pick it is obvious. It was obvious with Rogers too; totally unreal he fell that far. He should have been the #1 pick easily.

Also, you can take QB's anywhere in the draft, not just with a top first round pick. The idea that you must take one with the 2nd pick is total and complete nonsense. That type of inflating the player due to need and taking that player with a high pick is just stupid.

Yeah, I'm talking to you Kevin Jones. The facts show that the above position is correct. Obviously, everyone agrees that teams are not right until they get "their" quarterback, but inflating players based on need is how you stay in the gutter.

OK. Use thinking how test to see other teams draft guys or pass on guys then 2nd round?.. it is simple to see the test other team will pass on guys?. I am learning other team alway test if other team draft or pass it. Then we can steal him as quartback by #15 to 28th? Or 2nd round as possbile..

Originally posted by bigwads:
I know there are a bunch of guys in the media that think you should draft a QB and keep drafting them until you hit on one. I TOTALLY DISAGREE. Teams that do this are perpetually garbage. You take franchise caliber players when drafting this high...take the for sure guys or at least those with the least risk among the top 5 guys in the draft. This is how you build.

When there is a Andrew Luck in the draft you take him. When a QB is worth the top pick it is obvious. It was obvious with Rogers too; totally unreal he fell that far. He should have been the #1 pick easily.

Also, you can take QB's anywhere in the draft, not just with a top first round pick. The idea that you must take one with the 2nd pick is total and complete nonsense. That type of inflating the player due to need and taking that player with a high pick is just stupid.

Yeah, I'm talking to you Kevin Jones. The facts show that the above position is correct. Obviously, everyone agrees that teams are not right until they get "their" quarterback, but inflating players based on need is how you stay in the gutter.

Of course you shouldn't overdraft guys. By over draft, I don't mean by 10-15 spots, but more so, overdraft by rounds. Now when you look at guys like Mitch Trubsiky and Deshaun Watson, do you really see Jake Locker, who we knew had accuracy issues coming out of college? Do you see Christian Ponder, who didn't have a first or 2nd round arm. Do you see EJ Manuel? JaMarcus Russell? I don't see any of those things. I see two guys with 1st round ability at QB in any draft, any year. Now whether or not a someone thinks they are franchise building QBs is personal preference but those are two legit prospects.

It's obvious Rodgers was can't miss but 20 GM's said he wasn't many of those needing a qb including recent SB winner Jon Gruden. You can't make that argument.

There's just as many teams in the gutters continually passing on a qb waiting for that magical prospect to come. For Tampa it was about 8 years and now tack on a few more for their chosen one to develop and you see why you have to evaluate the position.

what we can do is draft for defense early period. Denver is doing fine without a qb, because there defense is great. if not garrett then foster. who knows, but if we draft at 2 we need to get a top 2 talent player. And obviously no QB is top 2 talent wise. even if we get foster, with him, ray ray, and bowman run d will get way better. id even go corner, if we start ward, teez tabor, reid, tarrt would be a nasty secondary!

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

I think, we need first draft the defense for build up then Draft the best Quartback at 2018 better than 2017. We can loss games and draft the top again at 2018. We need be patience our team building up first. We can chill and having fun next year.

Dude we've drafted a defensive player with our 1st pick the past 4 yrs in a row...who's better in the 2018 draft at qb??

What's fun with going 1-15 again? Facts are most of these qbs coming out now in college need to be developed they all run some sort of spread, so what the heck is developing one of these top qbs now? It's gonna have to happen at some point.

And like I said who's throwing the ball? We don't have a qb on the roster for next yr...I mean no one zero zip. I will not watch this trainwreak with someone like mike glennon as the starter next yr. at least we can watch a young top qb grow and have some hope if we go qb early.

Originally posted by fan49:

what we can do is draft for defense early period. Denver is doing fine without a qb, because there defense is great. if not garrett then foster. who knows, but if we draft at 2 we need to get a top 2 talent player. And obviously no QB is top 2 talent wise. even if we get foster, with him, ray ray, and bowman run d will get way better. id even go corner, if we start ward, teez tabor, reid, tarrt would be a nasty secondary!

We've drafted defense in the first 4 yrs in a row lol!!

Denver is doing well??? They just scored 3 pts yesterday and are 8-6 that's good? They also have 2 top end WRs AND their whole defense is full of top talent everywhere.

Drafting foster at two would be the dumbest thing you could do...dude has on of the top DLs and gets clean tackles all day. Getting a ILB of a CB does little to make this team better. Qb can change the whole franchise and actually get FAs to come here not a CB or ILB.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Except your odds of finding one get progressively worse the lower in the draft that you go.


The idea that you wait until there is an Andrew Luck type QB to draft a QB to me is asinine. How often do those guys come around? Most of the top QBs in the NFL werent "homerun" type picks but guys with a myriad of questions due to physical talent, size, competition, system or a number of other factors.

If every team went by that standard, a handful of teams in the NFL would have QBs. Even Rodgers came with questions which is why he fell into the bottom part of the 1st round.


If youre waiting for that "perfect, can't miss" QB prospect you will be waiting for a long time and you'd better arrange to have the #1 draft pick ahead of time for when they arrive.

This all day! All you can do is control who you're picking when your on the clock....waiting for some once in a decade qb to magically fall in our laps is ridiculous. Take the top qb and get a coach in here that can develop him.

All this BS about moving down without having any idea on who's actually gonna be the qb is dumb as well, we are full of young defensive players (4 1st rd picks in a row) how about we start putting points on the board and make s**t easier for the defense?