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Originally posted by English:Our first 4 picks have sky high potential!
The important part of each draft is the early rounds. Occasionally reasonable players come from the later part but usually the later rounds are no more than depth. So I fail to understand the assessing of drafts. They really like Buckner, they like Garnett. They quite like Redmond. Having accepted that Buckner was "one of the best picks in the draft" how come there were at least 8 teams rated higher than ours? It really doesn't matter, for the most part, how the lower rounds are assessed. What matters are the players who will get on the field, and in particular the players who will get on the field early. The fact that other team's lower picks, who will mainly be bench warmers or get cut, were better than our bench warmers etc, has little relevance.
Originally posted by English:
And out of curiosity a guy called Lance Zierlein in NFL.com ranked us 22nd in this draft. Mind you he ranked KC 29th and the Rams 31st.
Originally posted by English:The important part of each draft is the early rounds. Occasionally reasonable players come from the later part but usually the later rounds are no more than depth. So I fail to understand the assessing of drafts. They really like Buckner, they like Garnett. They quite like Redmond. Having accepted that Buckner was "one of the best picks in the draft" how come there were at least 8 teams rated higher than ours? It really doesn't matter, for the most part, how the lower rounds are assessed. What matters are the players who will get on the field, and in particular the players who will get on the field early. The fact that other team's lower picks, who will mainly be bench warmers or get cut, were better than our bench warmers etc, has little relevance.
Originally posted by ChipKelly:
Originally posted by English:
And out of curiosity a guy called Lance Zierlein in NFL.com ranked us 22nd in this draft. Mind you he ranked KC 29th and the Rams 31st.
Mel Kiper graded us 32 out of 32. But that clown rarely gets anything right.
Originally posted by ChipKelly:
Originally posted by English:
And out of curiosity a guy called Lance Zierlein in NFL.com ranked us 22nd in this draft. Mind you he ranked KC 29th and the Rams 31st.
Mel Kiper graded us 32 out of 32. But that clown rarely gets anything right.
Originally posted by ChipKelly:
Originally posted by English:
And out of curiosity a guy called Lance Zierlein in NFL.com ranked us 22nd in this draft. Mind you he ranked KC 29th and the Rams 31st.
Mel Kiper graded us 32 out of 32. But that clown rarely gets anything right.
Originally posted by ltrain:
Originally posted by ChipKelly:
Originally posted by English:
And out of curiosity a guy called Lance Zierlein in NFL.com ranked us 22nd in this draft. Mind you he ranked KC 29th and the Rams 31st.
Mel Kiper graded us 32 out of 32. But that clown rarely gets anything right.
Can you post the words from Kiper's grade? I can't believe we'd be dead last after taking Buckner and seeing what other teams did.
I think it's a positive that he gave us a bad grade to be honest, he's that bad lol.
Originally posted by ChipKelly:Mel Kiper graded us 32 out of 32. But that clown rarely gets anything right.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ChipKelly:
Mel Kiper graded us 32 out of 32. But that clown rarely gets anything right.
The guy that compared JaMarcus Russell to John Elway and blasted the Colts for taking Marshall Faulk over Trent Dilfer thinks that the 49ers had a bad draft?
That is awesome news!![]()
Originally posted by harryj:i think he said he has an arm like elway
and just fyi kiper had the most accurate mock draft of all writers apparently
As the chart above shows, Kiper and McShay have proven to be equally inefficient judges of talent over the past five years. Neither expert's rankings were a particularly good predictor of how a player would perform compared to the rest of his class. In fact, the average errors listed above suggest that the gurus' rankings are off by around 35 spots when compared to the player's actual performance.
In 2008, Kiper wisely ranked future bust Derrick Harvey 23rd—McShay had him 11th—but Kiper had fellow pass-rushing disaster Vernon Gholston 7th, compared to 15th for McShay. In 2009, both had the bust triumvirate of Aaron Curry, Michael Crabtree, and Jason Smith in their top four, but Kiper pegged Matthew Stafford at No. 3 while McShay had him at No. 7. McShay, however, wisely had both Clay Matthews and Hakeem Nicks in his Top 25, while Kiper had neither (but did, unlike McShay, include Percy Harvin). Finally, in 2010, Kiper, unlike McShay, smartly deemed Ndamukong Suh a better prospect than Gerald McCoy, but that success was immediately negated by his ranking of Jimmy Clausen at No. 4 overall (McShay, to his credit, did not feel Clausen was a top 25 talent).