Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
When does he play?

Saturday vs Auburn

Originally posted by goldstandard:
on espn

Will watch
thanks

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Yeah, right now it's Watson/Falk or bust, unless we have doubts about them. In that case we need to take Garrett if at all possible.

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Yeah, right now it's Watson/Falk or bust, unless we have doubts about them. In that case we need to take Garrett if at all possible.

Not sure how Falk is getting lumped in with Watson. Falk isn't going to be a top 3 pick. If Watson is gone and we don't like another QB, Garrett will be the pick. We could potentially land Garrett and Falk if we get a top 3 pick (may take a slight trade up from the 2nd round if Falk has a good year).

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Yeah, right now it's Watson/Falk or bust, unless we have doubts about them. In that case we need to take Garrett if at all possible.

Not sure how Falk is getting lumped in with Watson. Falk isn't going to be a top 3 pick. If Watson is gone and we don't like another QB, Garrett will be the pick. We could potentially land Garrett and Falk if we get a top 3 pick (may take a slight trade up from the 2nd round if Falk has a good year).

I'd be for that. If we were to take those two and Falk developed to say an Andy Dalton type player that would probably be good enough to win games.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Yeah, right now it's Watson/Falk or bust, unless we have doubts about them. In that case we need to take Garrett if at all possible.

Not sure how Falk is getting lumped in with Watson. Falk isn't going to be a top 3 pick. If Watson is gone and we don't like another QB, Garrett will be the pick. We could potentially land Garrett and Falk if we get a top 3 pick (may take a slight trade up from the 2nd round if Falk has a good year).

I doubt that's going to happen. Falk will likely be a top ten pick. It wasn't too long ago when people thought we could make a slight trade up from the second round to get Wentz

Originally posted by jordanroberts88:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Yeah, right now it's Watson/Falk or bust, unless we have doubts about them. In that case we need to take Garrett if at all possible.

Not sure how Falk is getting lumped in with Watson. Falk isn't going to be a top 3 pick. If Watson is gone and we don't like another QB, Garrett will be the pick. We could potentially land Garrett and Falk if we get a top 3 pick (may take a slight trade up from the 2nd round if Falk has a good year).

I doubt that's going to happen. Falk will likely be a top ten pick. It wasn't too long ago when people thought we could make a slight trade up from the second round to get Wentz

Players move up or down. It's foolish to expect every borderline first or second round pick to make it into the top 10 by the end of the year just because Wentz did last year. It's not likely that current 2nd round prospects will go in the top 10. It's not even likely that some of the top prospects now will finish in the top 10 (with the exception of Watson, Garrett, and Fournette).

Falk is the #4 QB in my opinion, so I'd just as happily move up from the 2nd round for Kaaya or Kelly if their draft stock falls. And Falk's draft stock isn't as volatile as Wentz's because he doesn't have great physical tools and he plays for a D1-A school so people have seen him more often. I could even see Seth Russell, Pat Mahomes, or JT Barrett jumping ahead of Falk with good seasons.

This mother f**ker needs to get me mass fantasy points today.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Even though Washington State lost, I think Falk showed well for himself. Also how about that Cooper Kupp? I'll be interested in seeing where NFL teams rank him in the upcoming draft. He plays lower than ideal competition but he absolutely abused Washington State's defense. I know that their defense isn't exactly a world beater but it was still nice to see Kupp show well for himself against better PAC 12 competition.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Even though Washington State lost, I think Falk showed well for himself. Also how about that Cooper Kupp? I'll be interested in seeing where NFL teams rank him in the upcoming draft. He plays lower than ideal competition but he absolutely abused Washington State's defense. I know that their defense isn't exactly a world beater but it was still nice to see Kupp show well for himself against better PAC 12 competition.

I only got to watch part of the 3rd quarter but I agree that Kupp looked pretty good and he has been consistently productive throughout his career. I can see him being a nice addition to a lot of receiver groups across the NFL.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Unfortunately I live in Mississippi and I've seen a ton of Chad Kelly. Would not touch him with a ten foot poll. Mayfield is what, 5'10"? It's Watson or bust.

Luke Falk.

Even though Washington State lost, I think Falk showed well for himself. Also how about that Cooper Kupp? I'll be interested in seeing where NFL teams rank him in the upcoming draft. He plays lower than ideal competition but he absolutely abused Washington State's defense. I know that their defense isn't exactly a world beater but it was still nice to see Kupp show well for himself against better PAC 12 competition.

Kupp has destroyed Pac 12 schools each of his 4 years, Oregon, Oregon St., Washington and Washington St., I hope we draft him

Originally posted by jimrat:

Kupp has destroyed Pac 12 schools each of his 4 years, Oregon, Oregon St., Washington and Washington St., I hope we draft him

Tbh. I don't know much about him. He caught my eye last season then I kinda forgot about him, but he sure looked good.

I don't like his frame. Teddy B similar slender frame and already had a major injury 2 years in.

Doesn't stare down targets......OK.

Originally posted by Jiks:
This mother f**ker needs to get me mass fantasy points today.

This dude sucks balls... He's playing Troy for hell sakes.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by Jiks:
This mother f**ker needs to get me mass fantasy points today.

This dude sucks balls... He's playing Troy for hell sakes.

Maybe it's first half jitters, but this guy doesn't look like a #1 overall pick or top 10 pick to me.