Who's the Best QB in College Football?

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by jimrat:

Where would a Chad Kelly rank among these Qbs if he decides to declare?

He has tattoos. Someone will say he's too much of a prison inmate.

Originally posted by jimrat:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by jimrat:

Where would a Chad Kelly rank among these Qbs if he decides to declare?

He has tattoos. Someone will say he's too much of a prison inmate.

Wasn't cam asked if he had tattoos? And can said no sir or something like that? I can't work at my job if I have tattoos showing. It's not uncommon for certain franchises to not allow tattoos on there "face of the franchise" players. But look at jj watt, justin smith, etc. kindve all faces of their franchises and have tattoos but it does seem to apply to qbs usually only. But again, who am I to tell someone how to run their business?

Originally posted by jimrat:

Where would a Chad Kelly rank among these Qbs if he decides to declare?

I personally like Chad Kelly, he has some fire inside of him.

I'd like to see Chad Kelly coming back for his senior year. IMO he could be a top 5 QB in the 2017 draft.

I didn't realize he had all that baggage in his past but the guy looked good every time I seen him play, probably be good for him to stay another year to rehab his image.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

I'd like to see Chad Kelly coming back for his senior year. IMO he could be a top 5 QB in the 2017 draft.

He should probably get his degree in case he's a 7th round pick and may need to fall back on it. I don't think there's any way he's a top 5 QB with his off field issues. Fighting bouncers and threatening to shoot up a bar is pretty serious and won't go away. He doesn't have great size for the QB position either (6'1 or 6'2) and he's going to be without Tunsil and Treadwell next year.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

I'd like to see Chad Kelly coming back for his senior year. IMO he could be a top 5 QB in the 2017 draft.

He should probably get his degree in case he's a 7th round pick and may need to fall back on it. I don't think there's any way he's a top 5 QB with his off field issues. Fighting bouncers and threatening to shoot up a bar is pretty serious and won't go away. He doesn't have great size for the QB position either (6'1 or 6'2) and he's going to be without Tunsil and Treadwell next year.

He had a great season this last year. If he can improve even without Tunsil and Treadwell that would improve his draft stock. Also the 2017 draft QB class isn't a very good one and the only guys that surely are ahead of him is Kaaya and Watson.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
I'd like to see Chad Kelly coming back for his senior year. IMO he could be a top 5 QB in the 2017 draft.

He should probably get his degree in case he's a 7th round pick and may need to fall back on it. I don't think there's any way he's a top 5 QB with his off field issues. Fighting bouncers and threatening to shoot up a bar is pretty serious and won't go away. He doesn't have great size for the QB position either (6'1 or 6'2) and he's going to be without Tunsil and Treadwell next year.

He had a great season this last year. If he can improve even without Tunsil and Treadwell that would improve his draft stock. Also the 2017 draft QB class isn't a very good one and the only guys that surely are ahead of him is Kaaya and Watson.

Dude was arrested last year for a bar fight and also fighting with officers, how in the hell is he gonna explain that at the Combine?? What a dumb ass.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

I'd like to see Chad Kelly coming back for his senior year. IMO he could be a top 5 QB in the 2017 draft.

He should probably get his degree in case he's a 7th round pick and may need to fall back on it. I don't think there's any way he's a top 5 QB with his off field issues. Fighting bouncers and threatening to shoot up a bar is pretty serious and won't go away. He doesn't have great size for the QB position either (6'1 or 6'2) and he's going to be without Tunsil and Treadwell next year.

He had a great season this last year. If he can improve even without Tunsil and Treadwell that would improve his draft stock. Also the 2017 draft QB class isn't a very good one and the only guys that surely are ahead of him is Kaaya and Watson.

Dude was arrested last year for a bar fight and also fighting with officers, how in the hell is he gonna explain that at the Combine?? What a dumb ass.

I'm not trying to compare them in talent but other players with similar red flags were drafted high.

Winston had a sexual assault allegation and a shoplifting incident. Manziel was arrested.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

He had a great season this last year. If he can improve even without Tunsil and Treadwell that would improve his draft stock. Also the 2017 draft QB class isn't a very good one and the only guys that surely are ahead of him is Kaaya and Watson.

Watson, Kaaya, Hackenberg if he stays, JT Barrett, and Gunner Kiel are ahead of him in my opinion. Kelly may be more talented than Barrett and Kiel, but those guys don't have his off-field issues.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Watson, Kaaya, Hackenberg if he stays, JT Barrett, and Gunner Kiel are ahead of him in my opinion. Kelly may be more talented than Barrett and Kiel, but those guys don't have his off-field issues.

I think Kiel has one of the highest ceilings of all the QBs this year but it's just my opinion I just love the guy.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

He had a great season this last year. If he can improve even without Tunsil and Treadwell that would improve his draft stock. Also the 2017 draft QB class isn't a very good one and the only guys that surely are ahead of him is Kaaya and Watson.

Watson, Kaaya, Hackenberg if he stays, JT Barrett, and Gunner Kiel are ahead of him in my opinion. Kelly may be more talented than Barrett and Kiel, but those guys don't have his off-field issues.

I agree that those guys are ahead of him right now but it's still a year and a half until the 2017 draft and a lot can change in that time.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

I'm not trying to compare them in talent but other players with similar red flags were drafted high.

Winston had a sexual assault allegation and a shoplifting incident. Manziel was arrested.

Kelly has a history of fighting with coaches, was involved with a hit and run (minor damage and a police report was not filed but still tried to flee the scene) which led to him being kicked off of the team at Clemson when he again got into it with coaches, talked s**t to Clemson's backup QB before he got there, got in a fight with bouncers at a club, and allegedly threatened to shoot up the club with an AK47 in his car. Winston was a moron, but he didn't have the same attitude problems or violent tendencies. It's also one thing to take a risk on someone when they're the most talented QB in the class - Kelly is not.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/14/5614250/chad-kelly-clemson-quarterback-dismissed

Kelly, a four-star dual-threat from St. Joseph's in Buffalo, N.Y., and nephew of Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly, has been committed to Clemson since last June and is visiting campus this weekend. In preparation for his visit and likely run-in with Stoudt, Kelly tweeted Wednesday, "Your on the bench for a reason. And i come soon! Just letting you know."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/chad-kelly-fightin-words-clemson-backup-qb-cole-182345699.html

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

I'm not trying to compare them in talent but other players with similar red flags were drafted high.

Winston had a sexual assault allegation and a shoplifting incident. Manziel was arrested.

Kelly has a history of fighting with coaches, was involved with a hit and run (minor damage and a police report was not filed but still tried to flee the scene) which led to him being kicked off of the team at Clemson when he again got into it with coaches, talked s**t to Clemson's backup QB before he got there, got in a fight with bouncers at a club, and allegedly threatened to shoot up the club with an AK47 in his car. Winston was a moron, but he didn't have the same attitude problems or violent tendencies. It's also one thing to take a risk on someone when they're the most talented QB in the class - Kelly is not.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/14/5614250/chad-kelly-clemson-quarterback-dismissed

Kelly, a four-star dual-threat from St. Joseph's in Buffalo, N.Y., and nephew of Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly, has been committed to Clemson since last June and is visiting campus this weekend. In preparation for his visit and likely run-in with Stoudt, Kelly tweeted Wednesday, "Your on the bench for a reason. And i come soon! Just letting you know."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/chad-kelly-fightin-words-clemson-backup-qb-cole-182345699.html

I didn't knew that he had this many had flags. I thought that he only had the coaches and hit and run issues.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Watson, Kaaya, Hackenberg if he stays, JT Barrett, and Gunner Kiel are ahead of him in my opinion. Kelly may be more talented than Barrett and Kiel, but those guys don't have his off-field issues.

Youre forgeting Wes Lunt from Illinois and Cooper Rush(big sleeper) from Central Michigan