Arik Armstead DE Oregon | Page 13

NYniner85 · 2015-02-19T12:38:38-08:00

I haven't seen a thread for this guy? 6-8 290 LBs STRENGTHS Improved by leaps and bounds from 2013 to 2014. Elite size with ability to add more bulk to his frame. Quick-twitch athlete. Explodes up field into blockers with good pad level and hip snap, gaining instant leverage against the run and often jarring them into the backfield. Gets good arm extension to control offensive linemen and peppers them with powerful hands. Can unlock quickly from blocks. Has above-average tackle radius thanks to his length and quickness. WEAKNESSES Power-based pass rush with very little production to show for it over his time at Oregon. Plays tall as pass rusher and doesn't use his hands to gain consistent advantages. Has no reliable counter moves when rush stalls. Gets caught up in whipping man in front of him rather than making the ball carrier his focus. Will win against an offensive lineman, but doesn't put himself into position to finish. SOURCES TELL US "I see the power in his hands and all of his tools, but I don't see the production or the consistent push that I feel like I should see from him. He could end up being a monster, but you have to understand that what you get right now is just a big athlete with some upside." -- Pac-12 area scoutNFL COMPARISON Calais Campbell BOTTOM LINE Projection-based prospect with elite size and the traits to become a dominant run-stuffing defensive end in an odd front. Armstead has the explosiveness off the snap and in his jarring punch to gain early advantages and control offensive linemen. Armstead is a fast riser but is still very raw. He will need patience and coaching and must become a more effective pass rusher at some point. (NFL.com) He is gonna kill the combine and is a athlete! He played basketball and wasn't fully dedicated to football until 2014. I think he can be molded into a pro-bowler with the staff we currently have. Thoughts on this kid??

Apr 27, 2015 at 12:26 PM

#181

evil
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
This place is going to explode of we pick him. I can already sense the fire baalke now posts And threads.

This, the Baalke haters especially will be out in full force. He is a project but I don't think it is a terrible pick and if he reaches somewhere close to his full potential, it'd turn out to be a great pick in the long run.

I bet we could trade down and still grab him.

Possibly.

Apr 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM

#182

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Originally posted by Jcool:

I guess the most reassuring thing I heard during this was the comment by many, many, of the NFL Nation participants was their belief/insinuation, that the team they were representing would be looking at making a trade, which would not allowed for this to happen.

I can only hope that will happen, changing our available options.....

OR

....wiser heads withing the 49ers Organization will prevail and select somebody else.

This mock had quite a few shockers IMHO.

[ Edited by socal9er42 on Apr 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM ]

Apr 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM

#183

NYniner85
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Yes I saw those stats...very nice. Why is he not a top 10 pick then? Oh and I don't want Arik at all at 15.

[ Edited by English on May 1, 2015 at 9:51 AM ]

Apr 27, 2015 at 1:02 PM

#184

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Originally posted by DeUh:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes I saw those stats...very nice. Why is he not a top 10 pick then? Oh and I don't want Arik at all at 15.

I have him 14th Overall on my Best Player Board

Negatives

- Sometimes loses balance (needs to consistently bring his hips and feet with him)
- At times he will disengage too soon
- Hands in pass pro need work

Yeah I've read that he has some issues with his hands in pass pro, I don't think he has the length to be a tackle either. I'm really hanging on that Thomas or Martin will win the LG spot. both are bigger, longer, and stronger than Collins....but if baalke is in love with Collins, I'll have to just accept it lol.

I could live with Collins and DGB/Smith with the 1st two picks

Apr 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM

#185

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
.......I'm really hanging on that Thomas or Martin will win the LG spot.......

Best Case Scenario !

[ Edited by DeUh on Apr 27, 2015 at 1:17 PM ]

Apr 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM

#186

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Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
This place is going to explode of we pick him. I can already sense the fire baalke now posts And threads.

This, the Baalke haters especially will be out in full force. He is a project but I don't think it is a terrible pick and if he reaches somewhere close to his full potential, it'd turn out to be a great pick in the long run.

I bet we could trade down and still grab him.

Possibly.

Even if, I feel like no niner fan here wants to even whiff this guy. Im undecided about this guy.

Apr 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM

#187

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Originally posted by Jcool:

Armstead

Apr 27, 2015 at 2:28 PM

#188

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Nobody has a f'n clue what the 49ers are going to do, so they just copy everyone else and put Arik at 15. I don't expect him to be our pick.

Apr 27, 2015 at 3:48 PM

#189

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Why the niners wont draft arik armstead.

Every offseason we read about Baalke's tendencies when evaluating a player. We all know how much he values things such as arm length and overall athleticism amongst many other tangible components. This would make Armstead a very logical pick. Although ,Baalke is a film first guy, and the fact of the matter is Armstead's film alone should make him a 3rd round pick, it just isnt that good in my opinion. There is to much projection for him to be the 15th overall pick. I read an interview once, that I cant seem to find where, Baalke said he made a decision on what he thought about a guy with in the first 5 minutes or so of watching him (don't quote me on that), and the rest of the process was to simply confirm that the combine numbers and interview matched the on field performance.
http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Baalke-Film-Doesn%E2%80%99t-Lie/7e395de7-0f36-40c3-a891-4ce740383ca3

Apr 27, 2015 at 4:10 PM

#190

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I just dont see. Baalke never telegraphs his picks.

Usually, people have no clue what hes going to do.

Apr 27, 2015 at 4:10 PM

#191

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Originally posted by daragon:
Nobody has a f'n clue what the 49ers are going to do, so they just copy everyone else and put Arik at 15. I don't expect him to be our pick.

This

Apr 27, 2015 at 4:15 PM

#192

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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Originally posted by daragon:
Nobody has a f'n clue what the 49ers are going to do, so they just copy everyone else and put Arik at 15. I don't expect him to be our pick.

This

I don't think the Draftniks have ever got a Baalke pick correct yet. I suspect that continues.

Apr 27, 2015 at 4:46 PM

#193

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Why the niners wont draft arik armstead.

Every offseason we read about Baalke's tendencies when evaluating a player. We all know how much he values things such as arm length and overall athleticism amongst many other tangible components. This would make Armstead a very logical pick. Although ,Baalke is a film first guy, and the fact of the matter is Armstead's film alone should make him a 3rd round pick, it just isnt that good in my opinion. There is to much projection for him to be the 15th overall pick. I read an interview once, that I cant seem to find where, Baalke said he made a decision on what he thought about a guy with in the first 5 minutes or so of watching him (don't quote me on that), and the rest of the process was to simply confirm that the combine numbers and interview matched the on field performance.
http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Baalke-Film-Doesn%E2%80%99t-Lie/7e395de7-0f36-40c3-a891-4ce740383ca3

His arms aren't even that long (33inchs) for being 6-7...

Apr 27, 2015 at 6:17 PM

#194

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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by socal9er42:
ESPN NFL Nation Mock Draft also has AA going to the 9ers.

Well I guess we could at least keep the Duracell battery power sound Patrick Willis used to use after a big hit ou can't stop the Coppertop AA battery

Apr 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM

#195

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Even our stupid ESPN 49er dude Gutierrez mocks this guy at 15. I hope this means it's someone totally different.