Arik Armstead DE Oregon | Page 11

NYniner85 · 2015-02-19T12:38:38-08:00

I haven't seen a thread for this guy? 6-8 290 LBs STRENGTHS Improved by leaps and bounds from 2013 to 2014. Elite size with ability to add more bulk to his frame. Quick-twitch athlete. Explodes up field into blockers with good pad level and hip snap, gaining instant leverage against the run and often jarring them into the backfield. Gets good arm extension to control offensive linemen and peppers them with powerful hands. Can unlock quickly from blocks. Has above-average tackle radius thanks to his length and quickness. WEAKNESSES Power-based pass rush with very little production to show for it over his time at Oregon. Plays tall as pass rusher and doesn't use his hands to gain consistent advantages. Has no reliable counter moves when rush stalls. Gets caught up in whipping man in front of him rather than making the ball carrier his focus. Will win against an offensive lineman, but doesn't put himself into position to finish. SOURCES TELL US "I see the power in his hands and all of his tools, but I don't see the production or the consistent push that I feel like I should see from him. He could end up being a monster, but you have to understand that what you get right now is just a big athlete with some upside." -- Pac-12 area scoutNFL COMPARISON Calais Campbell BOTTOM LINE Projection-based prospect with elite size and the traits to become a dominant run-stuffing defensive end in an odd front. Armstead has the explosiveness off the snap and in his jarring punch to gain early advantages and control offensive linemen. Armstead is a fast riser but is still very raw. He will need patience and coaching and must become a more effective pass rusher at some point. (NFL.com) He is gonna kill the combine and is a athlete! He played basketball and wasn't fully dedicated to football until 2014. I think he can be molded into a pro-bowler with the staff we currently have. Thoughts on this kid??

Apr 25, 2015 at 9:22 AM

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Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by 24plus25er:

Originally posted by strickac:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Trade for Kendrick's brother for a 4th would be even better and replace Conley with Lockett

It would be fun to see Sherman try to stick with Lockett.

Lockett will tear his ass up.

I love Lockett. God help us if he somehow becomes a pat. I could see him becoming a pro bowler in no time in that offense.

Apr 25, 2015 at 9:37 AM

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highway49
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The Potential to be great is nice, but I prefer demonstrated ability with lot'sa potential .....I like DT M.Brown

[ Edited by highway49 on Apr 25, 2015 at 9:38 AM ]

Apr 25, 2015 at 12:05 PM

#153

LVJay
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Forget Armstead...forget Carl Davis. If Baalke's taking a DL with his 1st pick there are really only two choices: Eddie Goldman or Malcolm Brown. They're both elite DL, have versatility and no baggage, no work ethic issues. They have non-stop motors and either guy can make an impact right away. Do you really think either Armstead or Carl Davis could tie up 2 blockers on virtually every play? No way. Goldman can do that. They could plug Brown in just about anywhere on the DL. Too much talent, too much versatility to pass up.

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On point!! Totally down with that

Apr 25, 2015 at 12:25 PM

#154

flynhayn15
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If everyone thinks we are gonna draft Armstead, then there is 0% chance Baalke drafts him. He is gonna draft someone all of the draft experts have valued in the 20's. He has a history of drafting someone higher than everyone expects. (I.e. Aldon, Jenkins, Reid, Ward) My guess is someone like Kevin Johnson, and all of the Zoners will complain about taking him so high or taking ahead of peters or not trading down.

Apr 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM

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buck
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Originally posted by highway49:
The Potential to be great is nice, but I prefer demonstrated ability with lot'sa potential .....I like DT M.Brown

Yes. Every thing I see about Armstead from the pundits is his "potential" based almost exclusively on his physical traits.

Baalke places very much weight on film, and it is hard to believe based upon his meager production that Armstead had first round film.

Apr 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM

#156

Tru2RedNGold25
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Kentwan Balmer 2.0

Apr 26, 2015 at 11:28 AM

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kezar49er
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
Trade down, pick up an extra high 3rd, select Byron Jones at ~#27-32 range. With the extra 3rd pick either Henry Anderson DE or Chris Conley WR. . . . . Thereby turn the #1 pick into two eventual starters, both with high potential

Add in Stephone Anthony or Kendricks with the 2nd pick and golden. (May require trade up to top of second)

Trade for Kendrick's brother for a 4th would be even better and replace Conley with Lockett

this

Trade down in the first, better value, need Wr or CB in 1st and try to get a 2nd or 3rd Rd pick

[ Edited by kezar49er on Apr 26, 2015 at 11:31 AM ]

Apr 26, 2015 at 11:46 AM

#158

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So is Arik Armstead the mock draft favorite for the 49ers?

Apr 26, 2015 at 12:06 PM

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eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by Jcool:
So is Arik Armstead the mock draft favorite for the 49ers?

Everywhere but on the webzone. I still think 15 is too high for him and he doesn't have ideal length even though he's 6'7 (I was really disappointed with his arm length of 33" and DGB's of 32 1/2"). I still wish we had gotten Stephon Tuitt last year so we wouldn't feel obligated to draft a DE this year. If Tank has progressed, maybe we will go in a different direction.

Apr 26, 2015 at 12:29 PM

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BuckFarry16to80
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Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Kentwan Balmer 2.0

Exactly what I thought about him!

Apr 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM

#161

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Originally posted by BuckFarry16to80:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Kentwan Balmer 2.0

Exactly what I thought about him!

I said this also.

Apr 26, 2015 at 6:41 PM

#162

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I will say this about Armstead. If Okoye is ever good enough to see the field we can play them both at DT in field goal defense. With those two giants inside we'd block something like 8 fg's a year lol.

Apr 26, 2015 at 6:48 PM

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highway49
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Interesting read...on AA.

http://draftbreakdown.com/john-ownings-2015-nfl-draft-breakdown-arik-armstead-de-oregon/

Apr 26, 2015 at 7:42 PM

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BuckFarry16to80
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Just got done watching him on game changers on nflnetwork and hell no!!! He stands and plays way to high, and he looks seriously lazy. He was doing a couple of drills next to Leonard Williams and looked like he had no enthusiasm at all while LW was going like a mad man with a lot of motor. I know this wasn't game play in pads, but you can tell a lot about him by just watching this casual no contact practice with his demeanor. Definitely Balmer Jr! Please Trent! Don't pick this guy!

Apr 26, 2015 at 7:51 PM

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if you want a 6'6"+ athletic project player draft Brian Mihalik in the 7th! 6'8" 295 lbs and he ran a 4.86 40 at his proday and had a 34.5" vertical. I would much rather pick a project guy like him later than a guy like Armstead in the first. I actually liked Armstead as a 2nd round guy coming in, but all this talk of him at 15 is making me not like him.