Arik Armstead DE Oregon | Page 10

NYniner85 · 2015-02-19T12:38:38-08:00

I haven't seen a thread for this guy? 6-8 290 LBs STRENGTHS Improved by leaps and bounds from 2013 to 2014. Elite size with ability to add more bulk to his frame. Quick-twitch athlete. Explodes up field into blockers with good pad level and hip snap, gaining instant leverage against the run and often jarring them into the backfield. Gets good arm extension to control offensive linemen and peppers them with powerful hands. Can unlock quickly from blocks. Has above-average tackle radius thanks to his length and quickness. WEAKNESSES Power-based pass rush with very little production to show for it over his time at Oregon. Plays tall as pass rusher and doesn't use his hands to gain consistent advantages. Has no reliable counter moves when rush stalls. Gets caught up in whipping man in front of him rather than making the ball carrier his focus. Will win against an offensive lineman, but doesn't put himself into position to finish. SOURCES TELL US "I see the power in his hands and all of his tools, but I don't see the production or the consistent push that I feel like I should see from him. He could end up being a monster, but you have to understand that what you get right now is just a big athlete with some upside." -- Pac-12 area scoutNFL COMPARISON Calais Campbell BOTTOM LINE Projection-based prospect with elite size and the traits to become a dominant run-stuffing defensive end in an odd front. Armstead has the explosiveness off the snap and in his jarring punch to gain early advantages and control offensive linemen. Armstead is a fast riser but is still very raw. He will need patience and coaching and must become a more effective pass rusher at some point. (NFL.com) He is gonna kill the combine and is a athlete! He played basketball and wasn't fully dedicated to football until 2014. I think he can be molded into a pro-bowler with the staff we currently have. Thoughts on this kid??

Apr 24, 2015 at 4:16 PM

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bors
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also cannot way I just hit my weekend I work Monday Tuesday Wednesday then boom off for the draft Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday boom sending my wife out of town with the kids to go visit her sister is just me the dog the draft food liquor and total bachelor status the house is going to stink when she comes back

Apr 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM

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Apr 24, 2015 at 4:45 PM

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Originally posted by bors:
also cannot way I just hit my weekend I work Monday Tuesday Wednesday then boom off for the draft Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday boom sending my wife out of town with the kids to go visit her sister is just me the dog the draft food liquor and total bachelor status the house is going to stink when she comes back

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Apr 24, 2015 at 4:50 PM

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Forget Armstead...forget Carl Davis. If Baalke's taking a DL with his 1st pick there are really only two choices: Eddie Goldman or Malcolm Brown. They're both elite DL, have versatility and no baggage, no work ethic issues. They have non-stop motors and either guy can make an impact right away. Do you really think either Armstead or Carl Davis could tie up 2 blockers on virtually every play? No way. Goldman can do that. They could plug Brown in just about anywhere on the DL. Too much talent, too much versatility to pass up.

Apr 24, 2015 at 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Forget Armstead...forget Carl Davis. If Baalke's taking a DL with his 1st pick there are really only two choices: Eddie Goldman or Malcolm Brown. They're both elite DL, have versatility and no baggage, no work ethic issues. They have non-stop motors and either guy can make an impact right away. Do you really think either Armstead or Carl Davis could tie up 2 blockers on virtually every play? No way. Goldman can do that. They could plug Brown in just about anywhere on the DL. Too much talent, too much versatility to pass up.

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Apr 24, 2015 at 8:10 PM

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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by bors:
also cannot way I just hit my weekend I work Monday Tuesday Wednesday then boom off for the draft Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday boom sending my wife out of town with the kids to go visit her sister is just me the dog the draft food liquor and total bachelor status the house is going to stink when she comes back

Part of me says

The other part says

Lol why u ban

Apr 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Forget Armstead...forget Carl Davis. If Baalke's taking a DL with his 1st pick there are really only two choices: Eddie Goldman or Malcolm Brown. They're both elite DL, have versatility and no baggage, no work ethic issues. They have non-stop motors and either guy can make an impact right away. Do you really think either Armstead or Carl Davis could tie up 2 blockers on virtually every play? No way. Goldman can do that. They could plug Brown in just about anywhere on the DL. Too much talent, too much versatility to pass up.

In our 1- gap scheme Carl Davis and Armstead could be great players at the 5-tech. Goldman is a great player but we have depth at nose ( knock on wood).

Apr 24, 2015 at 9:14 PM

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Originally posted by nj9er:
We need immediate starters right away. This guy would barely sniff the field with Dockett, Dorsey, Carradine, TJE, Williams, Dial, and possibly Justin Smith. All initially ahead of him on the depth chart. Oh and not to mention another large athletically gifted prospect who is a about an inch shorter, 10 lbs heavier, and a better 40 time in Okoye.

"Logically" this pick is that this position has been addressed heavily in recent drafts/FA periods that picking DL over and over again would be "Millen-ish".

Our 1st round pick needs to be an initial contributor or insurance or stud on the OL.

This. We need a starting CB, IMO.

Apr 24, 2015 at 9:26 PM

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Originally posted by bors:
also cannot way I just hit my weekend I work Monday Tuesday Wednesday then boom off for the draft Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday boom sending my wife out of town with the kids to go visit her sister is just me the dog the draft food liquor and total bachelor status the house is going to stink when she comes back

This weekend is gonna be awesome. I couldn't get off from work but I get off early day for the draft. And Avengers 2 comes out draft night. Gonna hit a local bar/grill for round 1 then go see Avengers afterwards. Night two gonna order some to go and chill in man cave while I watch the draft. Saturday work early that morning and get off just in time for the draft.

Apr 24, 2015 at 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
This. We need a starting CB, IMO.

Trade down, pick up an extra high 3rd, select Byron Jones at ~#27-32 range. With the extra 3rd pick either Henry Anderson DE or Chris Conley WR. . . . . Thereby turn the #1 pick into two eventual starters, both with high potential

[ Edited by Vito_Corleone on Apr 24, 2015 at 11:26 PM ]

Apr 25, 2015 at 3:57 AM

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Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
Trade down, pick up an extra high 3rd, select Byron Jones at ~#27-32 range. With the extra 3rd pick either Henry Anderson DE or Chris Conley WR. . . . . Thereby turn the #1 pick into two eventual starters, both with high potential

Add in Stephone Anthony or Kendricks with the 2nd pick and golden. (May require trade up to top of second)

Apr 25, 2015 at 6:03 AM

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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
Trade down, pick up an extra high 3rd, select Byron Jones at ~#27-32 range. With the extra 3rd pick either Henry Anderson DE or Chris Conley WR. . . . . Thereby turn the #1 pick into two eventual starters, both with high potential

Add in Stephone Anthony or Kendricks with the 2nd pick and golden. (May require trade up to top of second)

Trade for Kendrick's brother for a 4th would be even better

and replace Conley with Lockett

Apr 25, 2015 at 7:06 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Trade for Kendrick's brother for a 4th would be even better and replace Conley with Lockett

It would be fun to see Sherman try to stick with Lockett.

Apr 25, 2015 at 8:52 AM

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Originally posted by bors:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by bors:
also cannot way I just hit my weekend I work Monday Tuesday Wednesday then boom off for the draft Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday boom sending my wife out of town with the kids to go visit her sister is just me the dog the draft food liquor and total bachelor status the house is going to stink when she comes back

Part of me says

The other part says

Lol why u ban

Jealousy and childish envy...

Apr 25, 2015 at 8:56 AM

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Originally posted by strickac:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Trade for Kendrick's brother for a 4th would be even better and replace Conley with Lockett

It would be fun to see Sherman try to stick with Lockett.

Lockett will tear his ass up.