NYniner85 pre-combine mock

I'm a fan! I read on ESPN that Phillips is rated in the top 32 prospects so I could see him going earlier, but if he lasted to the 2nd that would be awesome. I like all the players in this scenario.

i also have Dorsett, Gunter, and Anderson in my (yet to be posted) mock

Originally posted by forty9ers49:
I'm a fan! I read on ESPN that Phillips is rated in the top 32 prospects so I could see him going earlier, but if he lasted to the 2nd that would be awesome. I like all the players in this scenario.

Yeah he is one of the "hopefuls" that would be there in the 2nd... according to CBS sports he is a 1st or 2nd rd prospect.

Originally posted by AsianJeff:
i also have Dorsett, Gunter, and Anderson in my (yet to be posted) mock

Yeah they all helped out their stock in Mobile

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Thanks!

I've noticed the tendency to project NT's to beef up our DL. We already have 3 guys who can play NT...Dorsey, Williams and Dial. Where we have a distinct lack of experience and depth is at DE...somebody has to step up and replace Ray Mac. Neither Carradine nor Jerrod-Edie have shown they can be reliable starters yet. We don't know whether Justin Smith will play in 2015 or not...but even if he does, this is the draft to get his replacement. Some have advocated Dorsey playing DE...the Chiefs made that mistake and there's no reason the Niners should repeat it. He simply plays better inside. My answer: draft Eddie Goldman, FSU in rd 1. There'll still be very good WR's available in rd 2. My pick there would be Devin Smith.

I really like most of your picks...I just think Baalke has to address the DL before he takes a WR. I see the Anderson pick in the 4th...not a bad place to take him. But, looking at him to replace Justin Smith is a reach, IMHO. Taking a 2nd DE may depend on whether TB decides to re-sign TJE. Another guy to consider who could supplant our DL is Malcolm Brown. He's been one of the most consistent DL in college the past few years. He has the size and quickness to put heat on the QB and stuff the run, like Goldman has. I think it's more critical to beef up the DE position with guys who can play effectively inside and out (for rotation and hybrid formations), which is what Goldman and/or Brown would provide.

Sheppard's a steamroller in the run game, but not as effective pass-blocking. Still, he's arguably a better player than J. Martin.

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
I've noticed the tendency to project NT's to beef up our DL. We already have 3 guys who can play NT...Dorsey, Williams and Dial. Where we have a distinct lack of experience and depth is at DE...somebody has to step up and replace Ray Mac. Neither Carradine nor Jerrod-Edie have shown they can be reliable starters yet. We don't know whether Justin Smith will play in 2015 or not...but even if he does, this is the draft to get his replacement. Some have advocated Dorsey playing DE...the Chiefs made that mistake and there's no reason the Niners should repeat it. He simply plays better inside. My answer: draft Eddie Goldman, FSU in rd 1. There'll still be very good WR's available in rd 2. My pick there would be Devin Smith.

I really like most of your picks...I just think Baalke has to address the DL before he takes a WR. I see the Anderson pick in the 4th...not a bad place to take him. But, looking at him to replace Justin Smith is a reach, IMHO. Taking a 2nd DE may depend on whether TB decides to re-sign TJE. Another guy to consider who could supplant our DL is Malcolm Brown. He's been one of the most consistent DL in college the past few years. He has the size and quickness to put heat on the QB and stuff the run, like Goldman has. I think it's more critical to beef up the DE position with guys who can play effectively inside and out (for rotation and hybrid formations), which is what Goldman and/or Brown would provide.

Sheppard's a steamroller in the run game, but not as effective pass-blocking. Still, he's arguably a better player than J. Martin.

He was my other possible pick (Goldman vs White) and Phillips might not be available when SF is picking in the 2nd. I think Henderson would be able to step in as a 5 technique in our 3-4...I personally think J Smith will finish out his contract vs retiring and I think Tank can take over for McDonald ( I didn't see much drop in production when he was cut). Tomsula has shown he can develop the d-line not so sure about WR.

I'd be fine with Goldman in the 1st and Smith in the second....but I'd prefer White, Philips then Dorsett. Throw in the fact that Dorsey and Williams are injury prone

Favorite mock so far, I really like the fact you didn't go Shelton in the 1st or DGB (even though I'm assuming you looked into trading back for him, which I'm thinking about for my next mock)

I also have Gunter, but with his recent performance at senior day I don't think he will last until the 5th
But you like said, Baalke won't spend a high draft pick on a CB (I agree) so we can find someone else


Nice work

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
I've noticed the tendency to project NT's to beef up our DL. We already have 3 guys who can play NT...Dorsey, Williams and Dial. Where we have a distinct lack of experience and depth is at DE...somebody has to step up and replace Ray Mac. Neither Carradine nor Jerrod-Edie have shown they can be reliable starters yet. We don't know whether Justin Smith will play in 2015 or not...but even if he does, this is the draft to get his replacement. Some have advocated Dorsey playing DE...the Chiefs made that mistake and there's no reason the Niners should repeat it. He simply plays better inside. My answer: draft Eddie Goldman, FSU in rd 1. There'll still be very good WR's available in rd 2. My pick there would be Devin Smith.

I really like most of your picks...I just think Baalke has to address the DL before he takes a WR. I see the Anderson pick in the 4th...not a bad place to take him. But, looking at him to replace Justin Smith is a reach, IMHO. Taking a 2nd DE may depend on whether TB decides to re-sign TJE. Another guy to consider who could supplant our DL is Malcolm Brown. He's been one of the most consistent DL in college the past few years. He has the size and quickness to put heat on the QB and stuff the run, like Goldman has. I think it's more critical to beef up the DE position with guys who can play effectively inside and out (for rotation and hybrid formations), which is what Goldman and/or Brown would provide.

Sheppard's a steamroller in the run game, but not as effective pass-blocking. Still, he's arguably a better player than J. Martin.

It's b/c Dorsey is a DE and only played NT due to injury. He stunk playing NT for a few seasons in KC and was much better at DE. Dial can play their but isn't effective. He's more of a DE.If Cowboy retires i would think the starting DE's would Dorsey with either Dial or Tank. That only leaves Williams who is coming off 2 years of injuries. That's why a lot of folks want a guy like Shelton in the 1st round b/c he can play all across the the d line. But if they got a DE over a NT I wouldn't mind that. I think Brown would be a good fit.

Originally posted by Quest4six:
Favorite mock so far, I really like the fact you didn't go Shelton in the 1st or DGB (even though I'm assuming you looked into trading back for him, which I'm thinking about for my next mock)

I also have Gunter, but with his recent performance at senior day I don't think he will last until the 5th
But you like said, Baalke won't spend a high draft pick on a CB (I agree) so we can find someone else


Nice work

HA you know I wanted to throw DGB in there but realistically I don't see it happening (unless we have some trades). I don't hate Shelton but grabbing a WR like White would make more sense and I don't even know if Shelton will be there at 15.

Considering Josh Gordon's upcoming suspension, I see the Browns at #12 taking Kevin White, Parker could be off the board as well by #15.
I would trade down 8-10 spots in the 1st take Armstead DE from Oregon and pick up an extra 3rd round pick.
In the 2nd round, look for WR, possibly Jaelen Strong if he slides to the 2nd, or Devin Smith, Lockett or Dorsett.
In the 3rd round with 2 picks, I'd go CB (Gunter, Miami, Collins, LSU or Rollins, Miami OH) and OL (Ogbuhei, Texas A&M, Tomlinson, Duke or Fisher, Oregon).
I like Cobb RB pick in he 4th (also Johnson, Northern Iowa, Robinson, Miss St. or Artis-Payne, Auburn).
I like Anderson DL pick with the other 4th round pick as well.

Originally posted by crew:
Considering Josh Gordon's upcoming suspension, I see the Browns at #12 taking Kevin White, Parker could be off the board as well by #15.
I would trade down 8-10 spots in the 1st take Armstead DE from Oregon and pick up an extra 3rd round pick.
In the 2nd round, look for WR, possibly Jaelen Strong if he slides to the 2nd, or Devin Smith, Lockett or Dorsett.
In the 3rd round with 2 picks, I'd go CB (Gunter, Miami, Collins, LSU or Rollins, Miami OH) and OL (Ogbuhei, Texas A&M, Tomlinson, Duke or Fisher, Oregon).
I like Cobb RB pick in he 4th (also Johnson, Northern Iowa, Robinson, Miss St. or Artis-Payne, Auburn).
I like Anderson DL pick with the other 4th round pick as well.

No trades is this mock (I will be doing one with trade scenarios down the road) and you would get more than a 3rd rd pick if you moved down 8 to 10 spots in the 1st.

Strong is intriguing (if White is gone plus a trade down) but I want some speed in there with Dorsett in the 3rd.

Rollins will be gone in the 3rd same with Collins...honestly I don't see O-line as a huge problem I think the issue was play calling and injuries. We have M Martin, Looney, and Thomas ready to take Iupati's spot.

That is a great mock. I'd be down for that.