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RollinWith21n52 · 2015-01-25T11:44:48-08:00

This is a guy who caught my eye before I ever heard the name, by watching a husky game. The more I watch, the more I'm blown away. This guys is the real deal. Now the team dismissal will certainly need to be addressed, and can't be overlooked, but purely based on on-the-field performance, this guy is my top rated player in the draft. There are 3 dimensions by which I like to evaluate players, and ideally they all point in the same direction. If they do, that's a clean prospect (again, referring only to on the field performance). 1) Production.This is my first go-to. You'll notice that NFL production correlates incredibly well with College production. Historically draft experts have scuffed at this, but now they're realizing more and more that you can tell a lot about a player by their stats. If a guy couldn't get a sack in college, I worry about what he'll do at the NFL level, regardless of his wingspan or quickness. 2) Tape. This needs to validate the above. So many schools and so many systems, that all numbers aren't created equal. Sometimes you'll see a guy with 4 ints and that seems like nice production, but then you watch the tape and he didn't really work for any of them. Just gifts from a terrible QB, or balls bouncing off an open receivers hands. Everything goes through tape. 3) Measurables. This is a grown man's game, and as much as we find outliers who can overcome this, it's still a very important consideration. A DB with production who runs a 4.6 simply won't translate to the NFL. Maybe a few will (Boldin), but it's a red flag. And if a guy has the tape and the production and then blows away the combine, then you run to the podium with his name on the card (i.e. JJ Watt). So how does Peters stack up? 1) Production. There's one stat that bothers me, and that's games played. But his production is jaw dropping: 3 Ints is a good number. To have that in a freshman year is fantastic Pick 6 as a freshman 11 Passes Defensed as a freshman?! 11 is amazing. 11 as a freshman is just absurd. As a sophmore, 4 games, 3.5 TFL... and 5 Ints?! Lets add 9 PDs. In 4 games? I don't even get it... This year: 2 games 3 Ints. Ok, this needs to stop. The guy has 11 Ints in 19 games, and 8 over his last 6. 2) Now how is this happening? What's the tape saying? For example, he's got a Forced Fumble. What was that? Maybe an accidental hit and the ball-carrier just dropped it? Maybe these Ints just fell into his hands? Just watch this, and try to keep your jaw from hitting the floor (against Brandin Cooks and OR State last year): http://draftbreakdown.com/video/marcus-peters-vs-oregon-state-2013/. In fact, watch any of them. It's all absurd. 3) 6'0" 198. Still waiting for the rest of the numbers, but I think it's safe to say that measurables won't hold him back. He's got instincts, ability to stick with WRs, is incredible at 50/50 balls, can turn his hips and high point the ball. He jumps routes on time, and is an absolute thug at the LOS. He's also violent. I'm surprised he hasn't been arrested for assult, based on what he does to WRs trying to catch the ball. The Sherman comparison is a hefty one, but he's got a lot of similarities to his game. I know the team dismissal is nothing to scuff at, but based on what I've seen, I have him rated as the top player in this draft. Thoughts?

Apr 2, 2015 at 7:48 AM

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LumpiaJeff
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Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
if we get

Strong, Perriman, Dorsett...(either of them) and Marcus Peters....Dang. what a first 2 rounds.

the bolded is probably the best possibility. Dorsett's recent pro day performance, and from all accounts, great interviews, could possibly push his stock up to the early 2nd, though

Apr 2, 2015 at 9:58 AM

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If Baalke wants a tough CB with size who plays with real attitude, Peters is his guy. I get he's had some issues...but if Baalke & Tomsula are convinced he's on the right track, he'd be the CB to draft early, IMHO. Between him and Reid, we'd have two real ballers in our secondary.

Apr 2, 2015 at 10:42 AM

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Want.

Apr 2, 2015 at 12:16 PM

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NYniner85
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I'm on board with Peters

love his passion. If not for his character issues I think he would be a lot closer to Waynes for top CB in this draft.

Apr 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM

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I like his swag but he's got to use his head after getting an interception or making a good play. Play football and don't worry about talking sh*t to your competition... do that after the game. He's the kind of guy that can make huge mental mistakes because of his swag & attitude. Reminds me a bit of Antonio Cromartie.

He's definitely not the most polished corner in the draft though. Physical - yes... but not the most polished. That's Trae Waynes.

Apr 2, 2015 at 3:01 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm on board with Peters love his passion. If not for his character issues I think he would be a lot closer to Waynes for top CB in this draft.

i agree with this. Todd Gurley or Marcus Peters are my choices for #15

Apr 2, 2015 at 3:11 PM

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Originally posted by AsianJeff:
i agree with this. Todd Gurley or Marcus Peters are my choices for #15

If Waynes is there is peters still your pick? Would love to see baalkes cornerback board. This guy plays with the attitude you like to see.

Apr 2, 2015 at 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by Whosgotitbetter:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:
i agree with this. Todd Gurley or Marcus Peters are my choices for #15

If Waynes is there is peters still your pick? Would love to see baalkes cornerback board. This guy plays with the attitude you like to see.

I would still pick Peters over Waynes. I feel Peters has more potential to be a shutdown corner. They're both physical, but I feel like Peters is a notch above Waynes when it comes to technique.

Apr 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM

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Love peters as a guy who'll produce and physically hold up,
But, gurley is a better football playet--and its not close.

Bpa (without need in the equation) its clearly gurley.

Apr 2, 2015 at 4:11 PM

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Peters is the BEST ALL AROUND CORNER in this year's draft outside the kid from Stanford who I think is very very underrated..

Apr 2, 2015 at 7:04 PM

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Supposedly had a very good day today at his Pro Day workout.

Apr 2, 2015 at 9:20 PM

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I'd be all for him at 15

Apr 3, 2015 at 1:52 AM

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Vito_Corleone
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Marcus Peters runs a 4.54 40 and has a questionable attitude you want him at #15? Seems too high.
40 time is important for a corner. Better to trade down and pick him later if still there

Apr 3, 2015 at 7:11 AM

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Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
Marcus Peters runs a 4.54 40 and has a questionable attitude you want him at #15? Seems too high.
40 time is important for a corner. Better to trade down and pick him later if still there

Yep I'd try that too. But the 40 time I disagree, what was Haden and Shermans 40 times, and that's two of the best who Peters physically at the line of scrimmage emulates

Apr 3, 2015 at 7:24 AM

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Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
Marcus Peters runs a 4.54 40 and has a questionable attitude you want him at #15? Seems too high.
40 time is important for a corner. Better to trade down and pick him later if still there

Joe Haden ran a 4.57 and Sherman ran a 4.56

Yes the 40 is important but so are the drills that require CBs to change directions quickly, test their lateral quickness, and exposition in short areas..also I think the vertical jump is also important.

He did well in the vert jump, shuttle runs,and the 3 cone. I don't think he's a better prospect than Waynes, but I don't think Waynes makes it past the Saints either.