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May 5, 2014 at 10:12 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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I like the combination of Beckham and M. Bryant. Bryant can be inactive and learn. I don't think Joyner will be the CB pick. Niners have been looking at bigger CBs. IMO, they want DBs that can cover Fitzgerald and Austin as well as tackle M. Lynch. I'd like to see the Niners package a trade up for starters at both WR and CB.
May 5, 2014 at 10:29 AM
- CorvaNinerFan
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I'll be upset w/Baalke if he trades up mid-1st rd to get Beckham...yes, he's a baller, speedy and all that, but seems to me TB's #1 priority should be finding a replacement for Crabtree. With guys like Matthews, Adams, Latimer, et al available, they're much better replacements for MC than Beckham. Baalke can get a speedy slot receiver w/KR skills later with Ellington, Herron, etc. What I think Baalke should do in 1st rd...take Dennard if avail, if not grab Fuller, then trade up in 2nd rd to get one of the three WR's above.
Just don't see why Baalke would draft Bryant...at this stage w/Crabtree arguably in his final Niner season, you don't draft a WR project. Thus the need for more experienced, polished talent like Matthews or Adams. Latimer's good, too, but would come in third.
I can see Baalke taking Breeland or Desir before Reynolds. Again, size, all-around CB play, longer arms, especially in Desir.
Like Loston & Urban.
Just don't see why Baalke would draft Bryant...at this stage w/Crabtree arguably in his final Niner season, you don't draft a WR project. Thus the need for more experienced, polished talent like Matthews or Adams. Latimer's good, too, but would come in third.
I can see Baalke taking Breeland or Desir before Reynolds. Again, size, all-around CB play, longer arms, especially in Desir.
Like Loston & Urban.
May 5, 2014 at 10:40 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I like the combination of Beckham and M. Bryant. Bryant can be inactive and learn. I don't think Joyner will be the CB pick. Niners have been looking at bigger CBs. IMO, they want DBs that can cover Fitzgerald and Austin as well as tackle M. Lynch. I'd like to see the Niners package a trade up for starters at both WR and CB.
Thanks for the input, Joyner would be our nickle back (much like what Verrett would be on our team) he plays a lot bigger then his size and hits hard! Reynolds would be our outside guy with Culliver and Brock. We have a larger CB in Cook at 6-2 212lbs, he has played poorly in Minn but has the potential (drafted #34 in 2010). I think he could be coached up like Rogers was.
May 5, 2014 at 11:34 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
I'll be upset w/Baalke if he trades up mid-1st rd to get Beckham...yes, he's a baller, speedy and all that, but seems to me TB's #1 priority should be finding a replacement for Crabtree. With guys like Matthews, Adams, Latimer, et al available, they're much better replacements for MC than Beckham. Baalke can get a speedy slot receiver w/KR skills later with Ellington, Herron, etc. What I think Baalke should do in 1st rd...take Dennard if avail, if not grab Fuller, then trade up in 2nd rd to get one of the three WR's above.
Just don't see why Baalke would draft Bryant...at this stage w/Crabtree arguably in his final Niner season, you don't draft a WR project. Thus the need for more experienced, polished talent like Matthews or Adams. Latimer's good, too, but would come in third.
I can see Baalke taking Breeland or Desir before Reynolds. Again, size, all-around CB play, longer arms, especially in Desir.
Like Loston & Urban.
I feel you and I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Matthews or Latimer in 2nd...I don't think Adams is anything special, his numbers were based on Fresno ST's system...Beckham would open the field for everyone else and create miss matches for Davis! He is tough and would take care of returns (think of a healthy Harvin). We need speed this year (Seattle has problems against), when your TE is your fastest player that's a problem...if Crabs doesn't resign we would have Beckham, Boldin,Patton, and Bryant (with a year to learn from crabs/boldin) I think that is a fine WR core.
Since TB has been GM he has never drafted a CB in the 1st 2 rds...I doubt we move up for one in the 1st. Breeland and Reynolds are basically the same size and I like Desir, but I like Joyner over him in the 2nd. We have a long CB in Cooks who has potential (drafted 34th) just needs some coaching.
May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM
- NYniner85
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I think with this draft we come out with 2-3 starters for this year, with a ton of potential for the future!
May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM
- CWin4949
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Not a fan of Joyner, like OBJ, like Thomas, overall, not too bad.
May 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by CWin4949:
Not a fan of Joyner, like OBJ, like Thomas, overall, not too bad.
Yeah the more I watch him the more I like...he can play CB and safety reminds me of Tyler Mathieu a little. He was a leader for FSU, we don't blitz a lot, but his sack total ranked 1st among NCAA DB's.
May 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM
- JamesGatz83
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah the more I watch him the more I like...he can play CB and safety reminds me of Tyler Mathieu a little. He was a leader for FSU, we don't blitz a lot, but his sack total ranked 1st among NCAA DB's.
Very solid comparison. Antoine Winfield is another one that makes sense. Joyner would be an excellent slot CB from day one. He also has multi-position flexibility and outstanding intangibles by all accounts.
I'm biased as a lifelong Noles fan, but I think he'd be a perfect fit in this defense.
May 5, 2014 at 4:52 PM
- tohara3
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Not bad. Like the combo of Beckham & Bryant.
May 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Originally posted by NYniner85:Yeah the more I watch him the more I like...he can play CB and safety reminds me of Tyler Mathieu a little. He was a leader for FSU, we don't blitz a lot, but his sack total ranked 1st among NCAA DB's.
Very solid comparison. Antoine Winfield is another one that makes sense. Joyner would be an excellent slot CB from day one. He also has multi-position flexibility and outstanding intangibles by all accounts.
I'm biased as a lifelong Noles fan, but I think he'd be a perfect fit in this defense.
Yes I've heard that comparison! I'm Noles fan too, so I might be a little biased as well lol
May 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM
- MC9BEAT
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The Jags are going to give us a 4th rd pick and next years 2nd rd pick to move up from #70 to #56? Really?
We get a mid 2nd rd pick next year plus an early 3rd rd pick and an early 4th rd pick this year for a late 2nd rounder?
We get a mid 2nd rd pick next year plus an early 3rd rd pick and an early 4th rd pick this year for a late 2nd rounder?
May 5, 2014 at 6:14 PM
- hofer36
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i think youre wrong re niners drafting brent urban--dallas will pick him
so that they have an urban cowboy
so that they have an urban cowboy
May 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by MC9BEAT:The Jags are going to give us a 4th rd pick and next years 2nd rd pick to move up from #70 to #56? Really?
We get a mid 2nd rd pick next year plus an early 3rd rd pick and an early 4th rd pick this year for a late 2nd rounder?
If they see a QB they like at that spot sure,We might be able to grab a 4th (mid 4th) from a team with a need like QB
May 5, 2014 at 6:47 PM
- T-9ers
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A starting cornerback is what we need most and is what I think we willl target in round 1. Last year's draft a free safety was what we needed most and that's what we got. I'm not buying all this stuff about HarBaalke knowing how to get corners later and develop them. If this is totally true then why the hell do we need a corner upgrade every year? The deepest talent pool for receivers ever and everyone wants to pick one early. Not feeling it, we run the ball and play defense. Let's not forget what we do best.