ABs 2nd/Last WZ Collaborative Mock Draft- CIN(GoreFullBore) is OTC

With pick # 33, the Houston Texans select...

---- CB/S ---- Jimmie Ward ---- Northern Illinois



Easily the BPA on my board, and the Texans are in desperate need for an immediate NCB upgrade. In time, maybe they work Jimmie into a deep FS role next to DJ Swearinger... but for now, FA pickup Chris Clemons will handle that. ( lol at them signing Kendrick Lewis... turd! )

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
With pick # 33, the Houston Texans select...

---- CB/S ---- Jimmie Ward ---- Northern Illinois


Easily the BPA on my board, and the Texans are in desperate need for an immediate NCB upgrade. In time, maybe they work Jimmie into a deep FS role next to DJ Swearinger... but for now, FA pickup Chris Clemons will handle that. ( lol at them signing Kendrick Lewis... turd! )

Dang it that was why I traded up.


The Bills, coming off a season where they allowed 48 sacks, look to rebuild their O-line.

With the 34th pick, the Bills select

Cyrus Kouandjio, RT, Alabama

First rule of Draft Club.... never trade up for a non-OTC pick.

LOL

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
First rule of Draft Club.... never trade up for a non-OTC pick.

Well yes, but I had assumed that you were going to look elsewhere before safety. Possibly QB, WR, CB, or even OLB before Ward.

Plus I had other targets I was looking for

Originally posted by Quest4six:
Well yes, but I had assumed that you were going to look elsewhere before safety. Possibly QB, WR, CB, or even OLB before Ward.

Plus I had other targets I was looking for

Yeah, I would have selected Mettenberger, had he not surprisingly been selected a pick or two ahead of me.

... and Ward will be the NCB in year 1 for Houston, in this case.

Still PLENTY talent on the board. If nothing else, this mock gives me a ton of confidence. It also makes me less interested in seeing the Niners trade up. Dennard, Gilbert, Cooks, and even the outside shot at Watkins or Evans is enticing, but the idea of keeping all 6 picks in the top 100 makes me very excited.

Raiders still willing to deal when the time comes. (The next pick)

Originally posted by Karma:
Still PLENTY talent on the board. If nothing else, this mock gives me a ton of confidence. It also makes me less interested in seeing the Niners trade up. Dennard, Gilbert, Cooks, and even the outside shot at Watkins or Evans is enticing, but the idea of keeping all 6 picks in the top 100 makes me very excited.

At bare minimum keeping the 3 in the top two rounds. We can trade a 3rd rounder or later to move up a bit and get our guy, as we have more picks than will make the team.

Originally posted by TexasNiner:

Originally posted by Karma:
Still PLENTY talent on the board. If nothing else, this mock gives me a ton of confidence. It also makes me less interested in seeing the Niners trade up. Dennard, Gilbert, Cooks, and even the outside shot at Watkins or Evans is enticing, but the idea of keeping all 6 picks in the top 100 makes me very excited.

At bare minimum keeping the 3 in the top two rounds. We can trade a 3rd rounder or later to move up a bit and get our guy, as we have more picks than will make the team.

Yes, definitely. It wouldn't break my heart to see them lose their original third rounder if they want to make sure they secure the guy they covet. I do think those two second rounders are the key to this draft. That is where they will get guys who will replace current starters when we lose them in free agency to ensure we sign Kaepernick. Besides a CB and a WR who can contribute as a nickel back or # 3 WR, all they other picks will be asked to sit, watch, learn, and bide time. How successful we are in identifying those guys will determine how much we do or do not drop off in the next three years.

Starters we will possibly have to replace within three years and the current player slotted to replace:

DE Ray McDonald - Tony Jerrod-Eddie
DE Justin Smith - Tank Carradine
OLB Aldon Smith - Corey Lemonier (Only if he can't get his life together)
SS Antoine Bethea - ? (He is on a four year contract, so it will depend on how he performs)
OG Mike Iupati - Joe Looney (This depends on free agent choices)
OG Alex Boone - ? (Same as Iupati)
WR Anquan Boldin - Quinton Patton
WR Michael Crabtree - ? (Again, free agent choices)
RB Frank Gore - Kendall Hunter/Marcus Lattimore

This list does not include injuries or unexpected decline, both of which tend to be unavoidable.

So, looking to the future, we need to spend middle to late round picks on:

1. 3-4 DE - Carradine has tons of potential but he is an unknown. TJE made strides last year, but he is still little more than a quality rotational player.
2. OG - One of either Iupati or Boone will probably be resigned. I would love to see both, but numbers are numbers. Looney is filled with potential but empty on experience. We need to bring in another guy to compete.
3. WR - Boldin is in the final years of his career and Crabtree is another guy facing salary cap decisions. Patton looks like a nice player, but this cupboard is mostly bare going forward. Hopefully we have Crabtree back, but the overall talent still needs a huge upgrade.
4. OLB - Lemonier should have a nice future, but Aldon's issues mean that we must hedge our bets.
5. Safety - We all want to see Bethea dominate for the duration of his contract, but we really only have special teamers behind the starters.

*Although numbered, that list does not indicate priority, just depth focus. The reason CB doesn't make the list is because it is our direst need and will be addressed immediately. This list is more about the middle to late round depth we will need.

Originally posted by Karma:

Starters we will possibly have to replace within three years and the current player slotted to replace:

DE Ray McDonald - Tony Jerrod-Eddie
DE Justin Smith - Tank Carradine
OLB Aldon Smith - Corey Lemonier (Only if he can't get his life together)
SS Antoine Bethea - ? (He is on a four year contract, so it will depend on how he performs)
OG Mike Iupati - Joe Looney (This depends on free agent choices)
OG Alex Boone - ? (Same as Iupati)
WR Anquan Boldin - Quinton Patton
WR Michael Crabtree - ? (Again, free agent choices)
RB Frank Gore - Kendall Hunter/Marcus Lattimore

This list does not include injuries or unexpected decline, both of which tend to be unavoidable.

So, looking to the future, we need to spend middle to late round picks on:

1. 3-4 DE - Carradine has tons of potential but he is an unknown. TJE made strides last year, but he is still little more than a quality rotational player.
2. OG - One of either Iupati or Boone will probably be resigned. I would love to see both, but numbers are numbers. Looney is filled with potential but empty on experience. We need to bring in another guy to compete.
3. WR - Boldin is in the final years of his career and Crabtree is another guy facing salary cap decisions. Patton looks like a nice player, but this cupboard is mostly bare going forward. Hopefully we have Crabtree back, but the overall talent still needs a huge upgrade.
4. OLB - Lemonier should have a nice future, but Aldon's issues mean that we must hedge our bets.
5. Safety - We all want to see Bethea dominate for the duration of his contract, but we really only have special teamers behind the starters.

*Although numbered, that list does not indicate priority, just depth focus. The reason CB doesn't make the list is because it is our direst need and will be addressed immediately. This list is more about the middle to late round depth we will need.

This is why I think we need to take S.Tuitt ...besides Ray N Smith we have a lot FA D-linemen coming up in tha next few years. ..just think of Tank N Tuitt on tha same line wreckin tha QB ....plus CB N WR are deep so we could get a good WR N or CB in tha 2nd round....

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
This is why I think we need to take S.Tuitt ...besides Ray N Smith we have a lot FA D-linemen coming up in tha next few years. ..just think of Tank N Tuitt on tha same line wreckin tha QB ....plus CB N WR are deep so we could get a good WR N or CB in tha 2nd round....

There is an argument here.
I also feel like people often overlook that in our defense... Corners aren't as highly touted as D-lineman in our scheme, not to mention the better we make our D-lineman, the better our secondary gets

Originally posted by Quest4six:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
This is why I think we need to take S.Tuitt ...besides Ray N Smith we have a lot FA D-linemen coming up in tha next few years. ..just think of Tank N Tuitt on tha same line wreckin tha QB ....plus CB N WR are deep so we could get a good WR N or CB in tha 2nd round....

There is an argument here.
I also feel like people often overlook that in our defense... Corners aren't as highly touted as D-lineman in our scheme, not to mention the better we make our D-lineman, the better our secondary gets

I love the idea of bringing in Tuitt to pair with Carradine for the future, but I think you are severely underestimating our immediate need for a high quality CB. Tuitt would be a luxury, but with Aldon facing at least a several game suspension our pass rush is going to suffer. Couple that with Culliver's legal trouble and the extremely underwhelming depth of Cox, Wright, and Cook, and our need for a CB to come in and make a difference now is paramount.

Originally posted by Karma:
I love the idea of bringing in Tuitt to pair with Carradine for the future, but I think you are severely underestimating our immediate need for a high quality CB. Tuitt would be a luxury, but with Aldon facing at least a several game suspension our pass rush is going to suffer. Couple that with Culliver's legal trouble and the extremely underwhelming depth of Cox, Wright, and Cook, and our need for a CB to come in and make a difference now is paramount.

I'm not saying that I want us to draft a D-lineman before a CB.
I agree, I think our biggest need right now is our secondary... There are a lot of mocks on here that have us going CB-WR-CB/S-Dline

I would hope that we trade up in the first round to take a solid CB, then hopefully we can trade up again to grab somebody like Ealy or Marcus Smith.

Trust me dude, I've been one of the guys that has been trying to make the zone fall in love with Verrett.