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Mar 16, 2014 at 7:03 PM
- Magzarillious
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We are going WR first, watch!
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:04 PM
- toppdogg32
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Originally posted by matt49er:
Overkill on WRs, drafting a center in the 2nd round after we just extended Kilgore? Don't like.
agree
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM
- xcfan
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
I share your concerns with the lack of speed/athleticism in the receiving core. I think the 49ers feel the same way, which explains the interest in Edelman, Sanders, and the recent but failed drafting of Jenkins. We will definitely look for similar types of athletes in the draft.
I'm not so sure we'll take 3 such undersized athletes. That would comprise half of our WR core. Generally speaking, bigger players still tend to be more productive and durable. 24 players had 1,000 yards receiving this year. Of those 24, only 6 were sub-6'0", and only 7 were sub-200 lbs. We just need a role player or two who can add some speed and better compliment Crabtree/Boldin.
who is that guy?
watkins and evans are the only go-to types in this draft who have some size. the other 6-0 or greater guys in this draft, while decent, are nothing special and would not really compliment us greatly. herron and ellington are not kyle williams; they are significantly better on-field athletes, and we can get a wider span of playmaking out of them than just a quick, slot guy.
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:15 PM
- SofaKing
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Originally posted by xcfan:
who is that guy?
watkins and evans are the only go-to types in this draft who have some size. the other 6-0 or greater guys in this draft, while decent, are nothing special and would not really compliment us greatly. herron and ellington are not kyle williams; they are significantly better on-field athletes, and we can get a wider span of playmaking out of them than just a quick, slot guy.
Yup. Like I said, I'm cool with any one of the players you picked. Maybe even two of them. But 3 in one draft is overkill IMO.
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:44 PM
- MC9BEAT
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Eliminate the 3rd WR. That's overkill. We might not even keep 6 Wr's on the roster, especially if we are giving up a slot to a returner you draft later.
Eliminate the OT in the 7th. UDFA ok but why waste the pick. He won't make the team. Along with our 5 starters there is the C you draft, Looney, Snyder and Martin. We started last season with 8 on the OL and that makes 9 already. That's not even counting players like Seymore and Bykowski.
Also drafting 2 DL's. It will be tough for 1 to make the team. We have our 3 returning starters from the end of last year plus Williams and Dial and Carradine. That makes 6. throw in TJE plus guys like Okoye or others from the pup list/practice squad. We probably only keep 7 on the roster. I could see adding 1 big time talent but we have the depth/development thing covered for now.
How about adding a safety. We ave 2 good starters but no depth there I feel comfortable starting in case of injury.
Eliminate the OT in the 7th. UDFA ok but why waste the pick. He won't make the team. Along with our 5 starters there is the C you draft, Looney, Snyder and Martin. We started last season with 8 on the OL and that makes 9 already. That's not even counting players like Seymore and Bykowski.
Also drafting 2 DL's. It will be tough for 1 to make the team. We have our 3 returning starters from the end of last year plus Williams and Dial and Carradine. That makes 6. throw in TJE plus guys like Okoye or others from the pup list/practice squad. We probably only keep 7 on the roster. I could see adding 1 big time talent but we have the depth/development thing covered for now.
How about adding a safety. We ave 2 good starters but no depth there I feel comfortable starting in case of injury.
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM
- xcfan
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
At this point, I think it's very likely Su'a-filo is the first interior lineman chosen. The last time there were no interior linemen chosen in the first round was the 2008 draft where we took the first one at 39. I would not be surprised if Su'a-filo goes late in the first but I think there is no shot he falls all the way to 56. I don't know why you think Warford and Long were better prospects than Su'a-filo - it was a surprise when along was chosen in the first while Su'a-filo is being mocked in the first by a number of analysts.
don't even get me started about long and warford. they were as physically dominant as the first pick in the 2013 draft. long's play showed he had the heaviest hands we've seen in years, and warford routinely stoned the best college had to offer. long didn't have a nice resume, and warford has an ugly body, so they didn't get a lot of pub.
i mocked long to us early rd 2 last year in one of my mocks and got flamed. people had just not seen him play enough to see his dominance in action. hof player if he stays healthy. warford consistently won play-to-play, but was downgraded because he doesn't win a beauty contest. those two are easily better than su'a-filo. this is a deep draft; i see su'a-filo dropping to mid-2nd rd. would be happy to have him.
[ Edited by xcfan on Mar 16, 2014 at 7:54 PM ]
Mar 16, 2014 at 7:50 PM
- tohara3
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Not a bad mock. Don't like center in the 2nd & would like a taller guy in the WR picks. Very interesting late round picks though
Mar 16, 2014 at 8:39 PM
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That picture of Paul Richardson is cool shows perfect body geometry and the picture of Taylor Hart reaching out for that ball
he has LONG arms!
he has LONG arms!
Mar 16, 2014 at 8:44 PM
- Since07
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Originally posted by theninermaniac:went a little overkill on WR with picks 3, 4, and 5 but good overall. Maybe we could trade one of those WR picks to move up in the first round?
Yup
Mar 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM
- matt49er
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Originally posted by xcfan:
Originally posted by matt49er:check the roster--it's frightening enough to keep you up at night...unless you're not planning on going to the super bowl.
Overkill on WRs, drafting a center in the 2nd round after we just extended Kilgore? Don't like.
kilgore? he has lots of good qualities, BUT he's not a starting center in this league who can win play-to-play. he doesn't have the brute strength that i was hoping he'd acquire in the few years he's been here.
check the roster? I know pretty much the entire roster by heart. Kilgore has been in this system for a few years by now, the coaching staff/GM thought highly enough of him to give him a 3 year extension and not even try to get Goodwin back. We're going with Kilgore as our starting center I can guarantee you that. Goodwin was very durable in his time here, therefore we never saw DK play center, he was only in the game when we brought in an extra lineman in those stupid jumbo formations Roman loves. The staff watched him in practice for 3 years and made the decision he's ready. Just like when we let Spikes go and turned it over to Bowman. Drafting a center somewhere isn't out of the question but not in the 2nd round of a draft deep in WRs and CBs.
Mar 17, 2014 at 12:01 AM
- xcfan
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Originally posted by matt49er:
check the roster? I know pretty much the entire roster by heart. Kilgore has been in this system for a few years by now, the coaching staff/GM thought highly enough of him to give him a 3 year extension and not even try to get Goodwin back. We're going with Kilgore as our starting center I can guarantee you that. Goodwin was very durable in his time here, therefore we never saw DK play center, he was only in the game when we brought in an extra lineman in those stupid jumbo formations Roman loves. The staff watched him in practice for 3 years and made the decision he's ready. Just like when we let Spikes go and turned it over to Bowman. Drafting a center somewhere isn't out of the question but not in the 2nd round of a draft deep in WRs and CBs.
he's a nice player, but as a starter, he's going to get walked back into the qb more than we like. not powerful enough.
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went a little overkill on WR with picks 3, 4, and 5 but good overall. Maybe we could trade one of those WR picks to move up in the first round?