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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Looking back, should be f-


Might have been Seahawks best draft and why they are so ahead of us now

You're on the wrong forum...you are lost...should be over at .nut.

Because he expressed an easily supportable opinion? It's not your place to be telling people where they should post.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Doesn't take a mediocre owner to see Baalke struck out in 2012.

Or does it?

No, but it sure as hell takes a blind one.
For perspective (grades all over the map):

Arizona Cardinals – 7 Draft Picks
1. D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (24)
2. Markus Golden, DE/OLB, Missouri (58)
3. David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (86)
4. Rodney Gunter, DE, Delaware State (116)
5. Shaquille Riddick, OLB, West Virginia (158)
5. J.J. Nelson, WR, UAB (159)
7. Gerald Christian, TE, Louisville (256)
CBS Sports Grade: B
ESPN Grade: C
NFL.com Grade: A
Rotoworld Grade: D
SB Nation Grade: B-
Sports Illustrated Grade: B
Yahoo Sports Grade: C

Notes: Most draft analysts had Humphries ranked as a top-three tackle in the draft, and he will likely be starting Week 1 ... Golden went earlier than expected but will provide depth to the Cardinals pass rush at outside linebacker … With running back Andre Ellington struggling to stay healthy, Johnson might be Arizona's answer for a stable, workhorse back, something they haven't had since Edgerrin James … J.J. Nelson's 40-yard dash time of 4.29 seconds was the fastest at the 2015 NFL Scouting Combine.

Seattle Seahawks – 8 Draft Picks
2. Frank Clark, DE, Michigan (63)
3. Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State (69)
4. Terry Poole, OT, San Diego State (130)
4. Mark Glowinski, G, West Virginia (134)
5. Tye Smith, CB, Towson (170)
6. Obum Gwacham, OLB, Oregon State (209)
6. Kristjan Sokoli, DT, Buffalo (214)
7. Ryan Murphy, S, Oregon State (248)

CBS Sports Grade: B-
ESPN Grade: A-
NFL.com Grade: C-
Rotoworld Grade: B-
SB Nation Grade: C
Sports Illustrated Grade: B-
Yahoo Sports Grade: D

Notes: It's very clear what grades slotted tight end Jimmy Graham as the Seahawks first-round pick … Clark comes to Seattle with plenty of talent as a pass-rusher but also plenty of baggage amidst domestic violence allegations … ESPN's Mel Kiper said Lockett was one of his favorite picks of the draft. Lockett's 1,515 receiving yards (he also caught 11 touchdowns) in 2014 ranked third in college football … Poole and Glowinski are both likely to compete for starting jobs in Week 1.

St. Louis Rams – 9 Draft Picks
1. Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (10)
2. Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (57)
3. Jamon Brown, OT/G, Louisville (72)
3. Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (89)
4. Andrew Donnal, OT, Iowa (119)
6. Bud Sasser, WR, Missouri (201)
6. Cody Wichmann, G, Fresno State (215)
7. Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (224)
7. Martin Ifedi, DE, Memphis (227)

CBS Sports Grade: B
ESPN Grade: C
NFL.com Grade: C
Rotoworld Grade: C
SB Nation Grade: C
Sports Illustrated Grade: A
Yahoo Sports Grade: B

Notes: Gurley's knee is said to be progressing better than expected, well enough to make the Rams feel comfortable spending a top-10 pick on the talented running back. Many analysts have called Gurley a once-in-a-decade 'back. The 49ers have the fortune (or misfortune) of seeing him twice a year now … Havenstein is a solid right tackle and is already slated to start opposite 2014 first-round pick Greg Robinson … Mannion was one of the draft's surprises, being taken as the third quarterback after Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota. He'll have a spot on the roster and could see playing time as a rookie should expected starter Nick Foles go down with an injury as he did in 2014.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/NFC-West-Report-Draft-Grades-Around-the-Division/970204bb-3392-49dc-8234-accd673db024
Originally posted by NCommand:
For perspective (grades all over the map):

Arizona Cardinals – 7 Draft Picks
1. D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (24)
2. Markus Golden, DE/OLB, Missouri (58)
3. David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (86)
4. Rodney Gunter, DE, Delaware State (116)
5. Shaquille Riddick, OLB, West Virginia (158)
5. J.J. Nelson, WR, UAB (159)
7. Gerald Christian, TE, Louisville (256)
CBS Sports Grade: B
ESPN Grade: C
NFL.com Grade: A
Rotoworld Grade: D
SB Nation Grade: B-
Sports Illustrated Grade: B
Yahoo Sports Grade: C

Notes: Most draft analysts had Humphries ranked as a top-three tackle in the draft, and he will likely be starting Week 1 ... Golden went earlier than expected but will provide depth to the Cardinals pass rush at outside linebacker … With running back Andre Ellington struggling to stay healthy, Johnson might be Arizona's answer for a stable, workhorse back, something they haven't had since Edgerrin James … J.J. Nelson's 40-yard dash time of 4.29 seconds was the fastest at the 2015 NFL Scouting Combine.

Seattle Seahawks – 8 Draft Picks
2. Frank Clark, DE, Michigan (63)
3. Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State (69)
4. Terry Poole, OT, San Diego State (130)
4. Mark Glowinski, G, West Virginia (134)
5. Tye Smith, CB, Towson (170)
6. Obum Gwacham, OLB, Oregon State (209)
6. Kristjan Sokoli, DT, Buffalo (214)
7. Ryan Murphy, S, Oregon State (248)

CBS Sports Grade: B-
ESPN Grade: A-
NFL.com Grade: C-
Rotoworld Grade: B-
SB Nation Grade: C
Sports Illustrated Grade: B-
Yahoo Sports Grade: D

Notes: It's very clear what grades slotted tight end Jimmy Graham as the Seahawks first-round pick … Clark comes to Seattle with plenty of talent as a pass-rusher but also plenty of baggage amidst domestic violence allegations … ESPN's Mel Kiper said Lockett was one of his favorite picks of the draft. Lockett's 1,515 receiving yards (he also caught 11 touchdowns) in 2014 ranked third in college football … Poole and Glowinski are both likely to compete for starting jobs in Week 1.

St. Louis Rams – 9 Draft Picks
1. Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (10)
2. Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (57)
3. Jamon Brown, OT/G, Louisville (72)
3. Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (89)
4. Andrew Donnal, OT, Iowa (119)
6. Bud Sasser, WR, Missouri (201)
6. Cody Wichmann, G, Fresno State (215)
7. Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (224)
7. Martin Ifedi, DE, Memphis (227)

CBS Sports Grade: B
ESPN Grade: C
NFL.com Grade: C
Rotoworld Grade: C
SB Nation Grade: C
Sports Illustrated Grade: A
Yahoo Sports Grade: B

Notes: Gurley's knee is said to be progressing better than expected, well enough to make the Rams feel comfortable spending a top-10 pick on the talented running back. Many analysts have called Gurley a once-in-a-decade 'back. The 49ers have the fortune (or misfortune) of seeing him twice a year now … Havenstein is a solid right tackle and is already slated to start opposite 2014 first-round pick Greg Robinson … Mannion was one of the draft's surprises, being taken as the third quarterback after Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota. He'll have a spot on the roster and could see playing time as a rookie should expected starter Nick Foles go down with an injury as he did in 2014.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/NFC-West-Report-Draft-Grades-Around-the-Division/970204bb-3392-49dc-8234-accd673db024

Kinda looks like you're lost now man...this thread is about the 2012 draft.
Originally posted by genus49:
Kinda looks like you're lost now man...this thread is about the 2012 draft.

Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
For perspective (grades all over the map):

Arizona Cardinals – 7 Draft Picks
1. D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (24)
2. Markus Golden, DE/OLB, Missouri (58)
3. David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (86)
4. Rodney Gunter, DE, Delaware State (116)
5. Shaquille Riddick, OLB, West Virginia (158)
5. J.J. Nelson, WR, UAB (159)
7. Gerald Christian, TE, Louisville (256)
CBS Sports Grade: B
ESPN Grade: C
NFL.com Grade: A
Rotoworld Grade: D
SB Nation Grade: B-
Sports Illustrated Grade: B
Yahoo Sports Grade: C

Notes: Most draft analysts had Humphries ranked as a top-three tackle in the draft, and he will likely be starting Week 1 ... Golden went earlier than expected but will provide depth to the Cardinals pass rush at outside linebacker … With running back Andre Ellington struggling to stay healthy, Johnson might be Arizona's answer for a stable, workhorse back, something they haven't had since Edgerrin James … J.J. Nelson's 40-yard dash time of 4.29 seconds was the fastest at the 2015 NFL Scouting Combine.

Seattle Seahawks – 8 Draft Picks
2. Frank Clark, DE, Michigan (63)
3. Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State (69)
4. Terry Poole, OT, San Diego State (130)
4. Mark Glowinski, G, West Virginia (134)
5. Tye Smith, CB, Towson (170)
6. Obum Gwacham, OLB, Oregon State (209)
6. Kristjan Sokoli, DT, Buffalo (214)
7. Ryan Murphy, S, Oregon State (248)

CBS Sports Grade: B-
ESPN Grade: A-
NFL.com Grade: C-
Rotoworld Grade: B-
SB Nation Grade: C
Sports Illustrated Grade: B-
Yahoo Sports Grade: D

Notes: It's very clear what grades slotted tight end Jimmy Graham as the Seahawks first-round pick … Clark comes to Seattle with plenty of talent as a pass-rusher but also plenty of baggage amidst domestic violence allegations … ESPN's Mel Kiper said Lockett was one of his favorite picks of the draft. Lockett's 1,515 receiving yards (he also caught 11 touchdowns) in 2014 ranked third in college football … Poole and Glowinski are both likely to compete for starting jobs in Week 1.

St. Louis Rams – 9 Draft Picks
1. Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (10)
2. Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (57)
3. Jamon Brown, OT/G, Louisville (72)
3. Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (89)
4. Andrew Donnal, OT, Iowa (119)
6. Bud Sasser, WR, Missouri (201)
6. Cody Wichmann, G, Fresno State (215)
7. Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (224)
7. Martin Ifedi, DE, Memphis (227)

CBS Sports Grade: B
ESPN Grade: C
NFL.com Grade: C
Rotoworld Grade: C
SB Nation Grade: C
Sports Illustrated Grade: A
Yahoo Sports Grade: B

Notes: Gurley's knee is said to be progressing better than expected, well enough to make the Rams feel comfortable spending a top-10 pick on the talented running back. Many analysts have called Gurley a once-in-a-decade 'back. The 49ers have the fortune (or misfortune) of seeing him twice a year now … Havenstein is a solid right tackle and is already slated to start opposite 2014 first-round pick Greg Robinson … Mannion was one of the draft's surprises, being taken as the third quarterback after Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota. He'll have a spot on the roster and could see playing time as a rookie should expected starter Nick Foles go down with an injury as he did in 2014.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/NFC-West-Report-Draft-Grades-Around-the-Division/970204bb-3392-49dc-8234-accd673db024

Kinda looks like you're lost now man...this thread is about the 2012 draft.

And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...

I have over 28,000 posts.

Find me just ONE where I give the Seahawks any credit other than this one to show how draft grades work out.

And this is another corny post by you, kids...

Aren't you in your teens?
[ Edited by blizzuntz on May 7, 2015 at 4:10 PM ]
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...

I have over 28,000 posts.

Find me just ONE where I give the Seahawks any credit other than this one to show how draft grades work out.

And this is another corny post by you, kids...

Aren't you in your teens?

I'm 43.

If you say you are a huge 9ers fan I take that back. Perhaps I mistook you as such a negative Niner fan over time you came off as a 12 to me. If so I apologize.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...

I have over 28,000 posts.

Find me just ONE where I give the Seahawks any credit other than this one to show how draft grades work out.

And this is another corny post by you, kids...

Aren't you in your teens?

I'm 43.

If you say you are a huge 9ers fan I take that back. Perhaps I mistook you as such a negative Niner fan over time you came off as a 12 to me. If so I apologize.

Are you a female?
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...

I have over 28,000 posts.

Find me just ONE where I give the Seahawks any credit other than this one to show how draft grades work out.

And this is another corny post by you, kids...

Aren't you in your teens?

I'm 43.

If you say you are a huge 9ers fan I take that back. Perhaps I mistook you as such a negative Niner fan over time you came off as a 12 to me. If so I apologize.

Are you a female?

Case in point.
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...

I remember a long time ago when you would have decent conversations with people without being snarky and domineering. Now you act like you own the place, and everyone should bow in your presence. You're suspended for 3 days. Not just for this post, but for a pattern of behavior.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by NCommand:
And the kids miss the point again! Where's that gif of the gymnast that flies over the mount (you....the point) and lands on the judges table 30 feet away?

The original point was that I was just giving blizzuntz crap b/c he's always talking about the Hawks and hating on everything Niner-related (hmmmm? j/k) along with a handful of other SuicidePosters (it's their thing). The post above is to provide perspective on how draft grades can be so extreme (no matter what year) depending on the source.

But it's all good. Carry on...

I remember a long time ago when you would have decent conversations with people without being snarky and domineering. Now you act like you own the place, and everyone should bow in your presence. You're suspended for 3 days. Not just for this post, but for a pattern of behavior.

Bump, just for fun in the down season.....looking back 6 years. This draft absolutely killed us.

The best I could do this year with the Niners' selection on the clock was M. Sanu and Malik Jackson. Either of these guys would be huge for us, even in 2018. Still think the Niners blew it by not trading up for DeCastro. Three straight Pro-Bowls and 2 All-Pros. That hurts!!!
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Bump, just for fun in the down season.....looking back 6 years. This draft absolutely killed us.

The best I could do this year with the Niners' selection on the clock was M. Sanu and Malik Jackson. Either of these guys would be huge for us, even in 2018. Still think the Niners blew it by not trading up for DeCastro. Three straight Pro-Bowls and 2 All-Pros. That hurts!!!

We needed speed and skills at the WR positon that year, instead we got AJ Jenkins. I don't think Baalke's drafts ever improved from this, in my opinion. He was terrible.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Bump, just for fun in the down season.....looking back 6 years. This draft absolutely killed us.

The best I could do this year with the Niners' selection on the clock was M. Sanu and Malik Jackson. Either of these guys would be huge for us, even in 2018. Still think the Niners blew it by not trading up for DeCastro. Three straight Pro-Bowls and 2 All-Pros. That hurts!!!

We needed speed and skills at the WR positon that year, instead we got AJ Jenkins. I don't think Baalke's drafts ever improved from this, in my opinion. He was terrible.

Thus my point for years, Imagine if Baalke would have actually helped Harbaugh during that super bowl window 2012-2014 and drafted and or replenished. He didn't help with the oline, wr nor Cowboys replacement just Tank Carradine and the All Acl Crew. Our defense was worn down with no bench help. The infusion of talent just wasn't there. We needed that bench.

He did absolutely nothing to help the cause. In four years Harbaugh created a loaded roster in an non-backstabbing atmosphere.
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jul 14, 2018 at 9:10 AM ]
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