Jwalk's Mock (1st 10 and 49ers Picks)

Not bad. I'd be happy with Prince, Houston, and Stanzi. I'm not convinced he'll be there in the 4th. I think he goes earlier. Possibly as low as #45.

In a normal year, is he worth #45, probably not, but we may have to reach to get a QB.

Whether and how far Justin Houston drops today is another intrigue. Will he fall at least to #45. If so, the Niners might have a steal, assuming they've picked up a CB in Round 1. Powe is my second choice NT, but Sione Fua gives more effort. Helu just might be Harbaugh's target.

Originally posted by Otter:
Not bad. I'd be happy with Prince, Houston, and Stanzi. I'm not convinced he'll be there in the 4th. I think he goes earlier. Possibly as low as #45.

In a normal year, is he worth #45, probably not, but we may have to reach to get a QB.

I don't see Stanzi or any of the top 8 QBs available that late.
Given all the NFL players that can't be traded (QBs) and the large need for many teams to need QB ... their will be a lot of pressure for these teams to get QBs. A run on QBs will occur at sometime ...if mid first round ... it will get ugly for those of us that HAVE to get a QB.

Solid draft. I don't think Stanzi will be there - even at #45 considering all the teams that neeed a Qb and the ones who may either trade up to get one or trade down to get one and more picks.

Originally posted by Otter:
Not bad. I'd be happy with Prince, Houston, and Stanzi. I'm not convinced he'll be there in the 4th. I think he goes earlier. Possibly as low as #45.

In a normal year, is he worth #45, probably not, but we may have to reach to get a QB.

Using recent history as a model you can see that the 8th slotted qb has been selected no earlier then pick 121. I have Stanzi going 13 picks higher at 108. I think it would be a miracle if Stanzi was the 8th qb selected at #45.

Just saying..... Take a look....

2010 Quarterbacks

Rd # Player College Team
1 1 Sam Bradford Oklahoma St. Louis Rams
1 25 Tim Tebow Florida Denver Broncos
2 48 Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame Carolina Panthers
3 85 Colt McCoy Texas Cleveland Browns
3 89 Armanti Edwards Appalachian State Carolina Panthers (As WR)
4 122 Mike Kafka Northwestern Philadelphia Eagles
5 155 John Skelton Fordham Arizona Cardinals
5 168 Jonathan Crompton Tennessee San Diego Chargers
6 176 Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic Tennessee Titans
6 181 Dan Lefevour Central Michigan Chicago Bears
6 204 Tony Pike Cincinnati Carolina Panthers
7 209 Levi Brown Troy State Buffalo Bills
7 239 Sean Canfield Oregon State New Orleans Saints
7 250 Zac Robinson Oklahoma State New England Patriots

2009 Quarterbacks

1 1 Matthew Stafford Georgia Detroit Lions
1 5 Mark Sanchez USC NY Jets
1 17 Josh Freeman Kansas State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2 44 Pat White West Virginia Miami Dolphins
4 101 Stephen McGee Texas A & M Dallas Cowboys
5 151 Rhett Bomar Sam Houston State NY Giants
5 171 Nate Davis Boise State San Francisco 49ers
6 174 Tom Brandstater Fresno State Denver Broncos
6 178 Mike Teel Rutgers Seattle Seahawks
6 196 Keith Null West Texas A & M St. Louis Rams
6 201 Curtis Painter Purdue Indianapolis Colts
7 232 Julian Edelman Kent State New England Patriots

2008 – Quarterbacks

Rd # Player College Team
1 3 Matt Ryan Boston College Atlanta Falcons
1 18 Joe Flacco Delaware Baltimore Ravens
2 56 Brian Brohm Louisville Green Bay Packers
2 57 Chad Henne Michigan Miami Dolphins
3 94 Kevin O’Connell San Diego State New England Patriots
5 137 John David Booty USC Minnesota Vikings
5 156 Dennis Dixon Oregon Pittsburgh Steelers
5 160 Josh Johnson San Diego Tampa Bay Buccaneers
5 162 Erik Ainge Tennessee New York Jets
6 186 Colt Brennan Hawaii Washington Redskins
6 198 Andre Woodson Kentucky New York Giants
7 209 Matt Flynn Louisiana State Green Bay Packers
7 223 Alex Brink Washington State Houston Texans

2007 – Quarterbacks

Rd # Player College Team
1 1 JaMarcus Russell Louisiana State Oakland Raiders
1 22 Brady Quinn Notre Dame Cleveland Browns
2 36 Kevin Kolb Houston Philadelphia Eagles
2 40 John Beck Brigham Young Miami Dolphins
2 43 Drew Stanton Michigan State Detroit Lions
3 92 Trent Edwards Stanford Buffalo Bills
5 151 Jeff Rowe Nevada-Reno Cincinnati Bengals
5 174 Troy Smith Ohio State Baltimore Ravens
6 205 Jordan Palmer Texas-El Paso Washington Redskins
7 217 Tyler Thigpen Coastal Carolina Minnesota Vikings

2006 – Quarterbacks

Rd # Player College Team
1 3 Vince Young Texas Tennessee Titans
1 10 Matt Leinart USC Arizona Cardinals
1 11 Jay Cutler Vanderbilt Denver Broncos
2 49 Kellen Clemens Oregon New York Jets
2 64 Tarvaris Jackson Alabama State Minnesota Vikings
3 81 Charlie Whitehurst Clemson San Diego Chargers
3 85 Brodie Croyle Alabama Kansas City Chiefs
5 148 Ingle Martin Furman Green Bay Packers
5 164 Omar Jacobs Bowling Green State Pittsburgh Steelers
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski Toledo Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 223 D.J. Shockley Georgia Atlanta Falcons

2005 – Quarterbacks

Rd #
1 1 Alex Smith Utah San Francisco 49ers
1 24 Aaron Rodgers California Green Bay Packers
1 25 Jason Campbell Auburn Washington Redskins
3 67 Charlie Frye Akron Cleveland Browns
3 69 Andrew Walter Arizona State Oakland Raiders
3 85 David Greene Georgia Seattle Seahawks
4 106 Kyle Orton Purdue Chicago Bears
4 121 Stefan LeFors Louisville Carolina Panthers
5 145 Dan Orlovsky Connecticut Detroit Lions
5 152 Adrian McPherson Florida State New Orleans Saints
6 213 Derek Anderson Oregon State Baltimore Ravens
7 230 Matt Cassel USC New England Patriots
7 250 Ryan Fitzpatrick Harvard St. Louis Rams

2004 – Quarterbacks

1 1 Eli Manning Mississippi San Diego Chargers
1 4 Philip Rivers North Carolina State New York Giants
1 11 Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
1 22 J.P. Losman Tulane Buffalo Bills
3 90 Matt Schaub Virginia Atlanta Falcons
4 106 Luke McCown Louisiana Tech Cleveland Browns
5 148 Craig Krenzel Ohio State Chicago Bears
6 185 Andy Hall Delaware Philadelphia Eagles
6 187 Josh Harris Bowling Green State Baltimore Ravens
6 193 Jim Sorgi Wisconsin Indianapolis Colts
6 201 Jeff Smoker Michigan State St. Louis Rams
7 202 John Navarre Michigan Arizona Cardinals
7 217 Cody Pickett Washington San Francisco 49ers
7 218 Casey Bramlet Wyoming Cincinnati Bengals
7 225 Matt Mauck Louisiana State Denver Broncos
7 248 B.J. Symons Texas Tech Houston Texans
7 250 Bradlee Van Pelt Colorado State Denver Broncos

2003 – Quarterbacks

1 1 Carson Palmer USC Cincinnati Bengals
1 7 Byron Leftwich Marshall Jacksonville Jaguars
1 19 Kyle Boller California Baltimore Ravens
1 22 Rex Grossman Florida Chicago Bears
3 88 Dave Ragone Louisville Houston Texans
3 97 Chris Simms Texas Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 110 Seneca Wallace Iowa State Seattle Seahawks
5 163 Brian St. Pierre Boston College Pittsburgh Steelers
6 192 Drew Henson Michigan Houston Texans
6 200 Brooks Bollinger Wisconsin New York Jets
6 201 Kliff Kingsbury Texas Tech New England Patriots
7 232 Gibran Hamdan Indiana Washington Redskins
7 241 Ken Dorsey Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers

2002 – Quarterbacks

1 1 David Carr Fresno State Houston Texans
1 3 Joey Harrington Oregon Detroit Lions
1 32 Patrick Ramsey Tulane Washington Redskins
3 81 Josh McCown Sam Houston State Arizona Cardinals
4 108 David Garrard East Carolina Jacksonville Jaguars
4 117 Rohan Davey Louisiana State New England Patriots
5 137 Randy Fasani Stanford Carolina Panthers
5 158 Kurt Kittner Illinois Atlanta Falcons
5 163 Brandon Doman Brigham Young San Francisco 49ers
5 164 Craig Nall Northwestern State-Louisiana Green Bay Packers
6 186 J.T. O’Sullivan California-Davis New Orleans Saints
7 216 Seth Burford Cal Poly-S.L.O. San Diego Chargers
7 232 Jeff Kelly Southern Mississippi Seattle Seahawks
7 235 Ronald Curry North Carolina Oakland Raiders
7 236 Wes Pate Stephen F. Austin St. Baltimore Ravens

2001 – Quarterbacks

1 1 Michael Vick Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
2 32 Drew Brees Purdue San Diego Chargers
2 53 Quincy Carter Georgia Dallas Cowboys
2 59 Marques Tuiasosopo Washington Oakland Raiders
4 106 Chris Weinke Florida State Carolina Panthers
4 109 Sage Rosenfels Iowa State Washington Redskins
4 125 Jesse Palmer Florida New York Giants
5 149 Mike McMahon Rutgers Detroit Lions
5 155 A.J. Feeley Oregon Philadelphia Eagles
6 172 Josh Booty Louisiana State Seattle Seahawks
6 177 Josh Heupel Oklahoma Miami Dolphins

2000 – Quarterbacks

1 18 Chad Pennington Marshall New York Jets
3 65 Giovanni Carmazzi Hofstra San Francisco 49ers
3 75 Chris Redman Louisville Baltimore Ravens
5 163 Tee Martin Tennessee Pittsburgh Steelers
6 168 Marc Bulger West Virginia New Orleans Saints
6 183 Spergon Wynn Texas State Cleveland Browns
6 199 Tom Brady Michigan New England Patriots
6 202 Todd Husak Stanford Washington Redskins
7 212 Tim Rattay Louisiana Tech San Francisco 49ers
7 214 Jarious Jackson Notre Dame Denver Broncos
7 234 Joe Hamilton Georgia Tech Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Originally posted by Jwalk:

Originally posted by Otter:
Not bad. I'd be happy with Prince, Houston, and Stanzi. I'm not convinced he'll be there in the 4th. I think he goes earlier. Possibly as low as #45.

In a normal year, is he worth #45, probably not, but we may have to reach to get a QB.

Using recent history as a model you can see that the 8th slotted qb has been selected no earlier then pick 121. I have Stanzi going 13 picks higher at 108. I think it would be a miracle if Stanzi was the 8th qb selected at #45.

Just saying..... Take a look....

You are certainly correct from a historical perspective. This just isn't a normal year in my opinion. With the uncertainty of free agency, it might force teams to act unnaturally. I hope you're right, I would love both Prince and Houston and still land a QB as late as 4, I'm just not optimistic and expect a run.

We'll know a lot more tonight.

I don't see us grabbing 3 stanford guys just because Harbaugh coached there. Bill Walsh often passed on his own stanford guys for guys from other teams who would be better NFL players.

Originally posted by Otter:

Originally posted by Jwalk:

Originally posted by Otter:
Not bad. I'd be happy with Prince, Houston, and Stanzi. I'm not convinced he'll be there in the 4th. I think he goes earlier. Possibly as low as #45.

In a normal year, is he worth #45, probably not, but we may have to reach to get a QB.

Using recent history as a model you can see that the 8th slotted qb has been selected no earlier then pick 121. I have Stanzi going 13 picks higher at 108. I think it would be a miracle if Stanzi was the 8th qb selected at #45.

Just saying..... Take a look....

You are certainly correct from a historical perspective. This just isn't a normal year in my opinion. With the uncertainty of free agency, it might force teams to act unnaturally. I hope you're right, I would love both Prince and Houston and still land a QB as late as 4, I'm just not optimistic and expect a run.

We'll know a lot more tonight.

I actually went and looked it up all the way back to 1970. Three times the 8th qb has been selected before pick 108.

1999, Joe Germaine, 101st pick.
1990, Scott Mitchell, 93rd pick.
1971, Joe Theisman, 99th pick.

Im calling it right now, Stanzi wont go before pick 93.

Originally posted by BillWalsh:
I don't see us grabbing 3 stanford guys just because Harbaugh coached there. Bill Walsh often passed on his own stanford guys for guys from other teams who would be better NFL players.

You are probably right, But I bet he grabs at least 2 Stanford guys, IDK.

Originally posted by Jwalk:


I actually went and looked it up all the way back to 1970. Three times the 8th qb has been selected before pick 108.

1999, Joe Germaine, 101st pick.
1990, Scott Mitchell, 93rd pick.
1971, Joe Theisman, 99th pick.

Im calling it right now, Stanzi wont go before pick 93.

I'll give you credit for sticking to your convictions. I just hope we come out of this draft with a solid QB prospect or two.

Originally posted by Otter:
Posting this for Jwalk.

I have only Mocked out the top 10 and the rest is purely Niner picks. We may need to move up and down a little but we should be in good position to land this draft.

1. Carolina Panthers: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver Broncos: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
3. Buffalo Bills: Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
4. Cincinnati Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
5. Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
6. Cleveland Browns: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
7. San Francisco 49ers: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
8. Tennessee Titans: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
9. Dallas Cowboys: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
10. Washington Redskins: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama



45. Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia..... He should be on the table at 45 after the failed drug test but he wont be around when we pick again at 76. Instant starter to replace Parys.

76. Daunte Moch, OLB, Nevada.... We might need to move up a few spots here but he could be a monster for us on 3rd downs getting after the qb. Using him as a 3rd down rush specialist would allow him to contribute significantly his rookie campaingn.

108. Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa.....No reason he shouldnt be sitting right here in the bottom of the 4th. I dont think he gets taken before this. Some will disagree but this is how I see it unfolding.

115. Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole Miss..... 6`2 335 lbs of NT.

141. Owen Marecic, FB, Stanford..... I know a lot of mocks have this but it really does fit and make sense.

174. Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska..... Roy "You Say" Helu is big and fast, 6ft 220 and runs a 4.42. Turned some heads at the combine.

190. David Carter, DE/DT, UCLA... Big tall Prototypical 3-4 DE that can bat a ton of balls down at the line. Something we have been lacking with our Vertically challenged line.

211. Richard Sherman, CB/FS, Stanford..... Familiaraity could have him contributing on ST and defense right away.

231. Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut..... Another big young body to compete.

239. Ryan Whalen, WR, Stanford..... Familiaraity could have him contributing on ST and offense right away.

250. Kai Forbath, K, UCLA.... Nedney is 38.

I think the top 10 will go different but it probably won't change what the Niners do because the key players will be gone.
Beyond Prince, you picked a ton of guys i think the Niners should go for. Prince is good to i just haven't been as high on him with all the hype around Peterson. The other picks in Forbath, Whalen, Sherman, Marecic, Really big on Powe, and Stanzi. Houston and Moch are also great and would give us more weapons and speed at LB.
Good job. let's hope for something like this.

Originally posted by Otter:
Posting this for Jwalk.

I have only Mocked out the top 10 and the rest is purely Niner picks. We may need to move up and down a little but we should be in good position to land this draft.

1. Carolina Panthers: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver Broncos: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
3. Buffalo Bills: Von Miller, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
4. Cincinnati Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
5. Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
6. Cleveland Browns: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
7. San Francisco 49ers: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
8. Tennessee Titans: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
9. Dallas Cowboys: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
10. Washington Redskins: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama



45. Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia..... He should be on the table at 45 after the failed drug test but he wont be around when we pick again at 76. Instant starter to replace Parys.

76. Daunte Moch, OLB, Nevada.... We might need to move up a few spots here but he could be a monster for us on 3rd downs getting after the qb. Using him as a 3rd down rush specialist would allow him to contribute significantly his rookie campaingn.

108. Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa.....No reason he shouldnt be sitting right here in the bottom of the 4th. I dont think he gets taken before this. Some will disagree but this is how I see it unfolding.

115. Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole Miss..... 6`2 335 lbs of NT.

141. Owen Marecic, FB, Stanford..... I know a lot of mocks have this but it really does fit and make sense.

174. Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska..... Roy "You Say" Helu is big and fast, 6ft 220 and runs a 4.42. Turned some heads at the combine.

190. David Carter, DE/DT, UCLA... Big tall Prototypical 3-4 DE that can bat a ton of balls down at the line. Something we have been lacking with our Vertically challenged line.

211. Richard Sherman, CB/FS, Stanford..... Familiaraity could have him contributing on ST and defense right away.

231. Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut..... Another big young body to compete.

239. Ryan Whalen, WR, Stanford..... Familiaraity could have him contributing on ST and offense right away.

250. Kai Forbath, K, UCLA.... Nedney is 38.

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