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MadDog49er · 2011-03-19T18:16:08-07:00

Here is the ever expanding Big 200 Board, generally covering the first six rounds of the NFL Draft. The Big Board is always in a state of evolution, and all input is appreciated. With the majority of Pro-Days in the book, the firsthand evaluation of players by scouts and coaches is slowly coming to a conclusion. However, there are still some big players yet to show off their stuff, so I will attempt to post a new, and full 250+ player Big Board covering the full draft in early April. And, changes will surely be seen. As always, this is NOT a mock draft, but a projection of the area I feel each player will land. Trades alter everything. Some trades have been built into the first round, but are not labeled (the Cowboys trading up from 9 to 6; the Pats trading away their 28th overall). So, some player placements may seem odd. However, the bulk of the first round does play out in a straight mock like fashion. I have projected a pass rushing OLB and CB to the Niners with their 7th and 45th pick. I do not believe the team will sit pat with their 76th overall. Cheers. 2011 NFL Draft 255 Big Board Pick Player School Position 1 Blaine Gabbert Missouri QB 2 Marcell Dareus Alabama DT 3 Nick Fairley Auburn DT 4 Cam Newton Auburn QB 5 Von Miller Texas A&M OLB 6 Patrick Peterson LSU CB 7 Robert Quinn North Carolina DE 8 AJ Green Georgia WR 9 Da'Quan Bowers Clemson DE 10 Julio Jones Alabama WR 11 Prince Amukamara Nebraska CB 12 JJ Watt Wisconsin DE/DT 13 Tyron Smith USC OT 14 Corey Liuget Illinois DT 15 Cameron Jordan Cal DE/DT 16 Aldon Smith Missouri DE 17 Phil Taylor Baylor DT 18 Nate Solder Colorado OT 19 Anthony Castonzo Boston College OT 20 Mike Pouncey Florida C 21 Torrey Smith Maryland WR 22 Derek Sherrod Mississippi St OT 23 Gabe Carimi Wisconsin OT 24 Cameron Heyward Ohio State DE/DT 25 Christian Ponder Florida State QB 26 Jimmy Smith Colorado CB 27 Ryan Kerrigan Purdue DE 28 Jake Locker Washington QB 29 Mark Ingram Alabama RB 30 Justin Houston Georgia OLB 31 Muhammad Wilkerson Temple DT 32 Brooks Reed Arizona DE 33 Ryan Williams Virginia Tech RB 34 Stephen Paea Oregon St DT 35 Danny Watkins Baylor G/C 36 Rahim Moore UCLA S 37 Colin Kaepernick Nevada QB 38 Jonathan Baldwin Pittsburgh WR 39 Brandon Harris Miami CB 40 Adrian Clayborn Iowa DE/DT 41 Kyle Rudolph Notre Dame TE 42 Jabaal Sheard Pittsburgh DE 43 Andy Dalton TCU QB 44 Mikel LeShoure Illinois RB 45 Aaron Williams Texas CB 46 Martez Wilson Illinois LB 47 Leonard Hankerson Miami WR 48 Ryan Mallett Arkansas QB 49 Marvin Austin North Carolina DT 50 Akeem Ayers UCLA OLB 51 Stefan Wisniewski Penn State C 52 Curtis Brown Texas CB 53 Jerrel Jernigan Troy WR 54 Rodney Hudson Florida State G/C 55 Randall Cobb Kentucky WR 56 Christian Ballard Iowa DE 57 James Carpenter Alabama OT 58 Titus Young Boise St WR 59 Davon House New Mexico CB 60 Drake Nevis LSU DT 61 Kendall Hunter Oklahoma St RB 62 Daniel Thomas Kansas St RB 63 Marcus Cannon TCU OT/OG 64 Lance Kendricks Wisconsin TE 65 Sam Acho Texas DE 66 Quinton Carter Oklahoma S 67 Jordan Todman Connecticut RB 68 Ben Ijalana Villanova OT/OG 69 Dontay Moch Nevada OLB 70 Ras-I Dowling Virginia CB 71 Kenrick Ellis Hampton DT 72 Buster Skrine Chattanooga CB 73 Da'Rel Scott Maryland RB 74 Curtis Marsh Utah St CB 75 DJ Williams Arkansas TE 76 Brandon Burton Utah CB 77 Chris Culliver South Carolina S 78 Bruce Carter North Carolina LB 79 Chris Carter Fresno St OLB 80 Allen Bailey Miami DE 81 Tandon Doss Indiana WR 82 Clint Boling Georgia G 83 Quan Sturdivant North Carolina LB 84 Marcus Gilchrist Clemson CB 85 DeMarco Murray Oklahoma RB 86 Tyler Sash Iowa S 87 Mason Foster Washington OLB 88 Virgil Green Nevada TE 89 Jarvis Jenkins Clemson DT 90 Johnny Patrick Louisville CB 91 Roy Helu Nebraska RB 92 John Moffitt Wisconsin G/C 93 Greg Little North Carolina WR 94 Derrick Locke Kentucky RB 95 Jerrell Powe Mississippi DT 96 Lawrence Guy Arizona St DT 97 Edmond Gates Abilene Christian WR 98 Deleone Carter Syracuse RB 99 Shane Vereen Cal RB 100 Luke Stocker Tennessee TE 101 Ricky Stanzi Iowa QB 102 DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S 103 Colin McCarthy Miami ILB 104 Sione Fua Stanford DT 105 Shareece Wright USC CB 106 Marcus Gilbert Florida OT 107 Rashad Carmichael Virginia Tech CB 108 Will Rackley Lehigh G 109 KJ Wright Mississippi St OLB 110 Jacquizz Rodgers Oregon St RB 111 Jalil Brown Colorado CB 112 Jordan Cameron USC TE 113 Byron Stingily Lousville OT 114 Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh G 115 Robert Sands West Virginia S 116 Alex Green Hawaii RB 117 James Brewer Indiana G 118 Stephen Burton West Texas A&M WR 119 Jamie Harper Clemson RB 120 Josh Thomas Buffalo CB 121 Owen Marecic Stanford FB 122 Jurrell Casey USC DT 123 Orlando Franklin Miami G 124 Kelvin Sheppard LSU ILB 125 Greg Jones Michigan St LB 126 Jaiquawn Jarrett Temple S 127 Lawrence Wilson Connecticut OLB 128 Mario Fannin Auburn RB 129 Julius Thomas Portland St TE 130 Alex Henery Nebraska K 131 Joe Lefeged Rutgers S 132 Terrell McClain South Florida DT 133 Cecil Shorts III Mount Union WR 134 Anthony Allen Georgia Tech RB 135 Chris Conte Cal S 136 Justin Rogers Richmond CB 137 David Carter UCLA DE/DT 138 Lee Ziemba Auburn OT 139 Ronald Johnson USC WR 140 Pierre Allen Nebraska DE 141 Rob Housler Florida Atlantic TE 142 Deunta Williams North Carolina S 143 Terrance Tolliver LSU WR 144 Tim Barnes Missouri C 145 Chimdi Chekwa Ohio State CB 146 Jake Kirkpatrick TCU C 147 Ricardo Lockette Fort Valley St WR 148 Shiloh Keo Idaho S 149 Ian Williams Notre Dame DT 150 Stanley Havili USC FB 151 DeMarcus Van Dyke Miami CB 152 Taiwan Jones Eastern Washington RB 153 Jeremy Kerley TCU WR 154 Bilal Powell Louisville RB 155 Niles Paul Nebraska WR 156 Stephen Schilling Michigan G 157 Ugo Chinasa Oklahoma St DE 158 Martin Parker Richmond DT 159 Denarius Moore Tennessee WR 160 Derek Newton Arkansas St OT 161 Cortez Allen Citadel CB 162 Jeron Johnson Boise St S 163 Nate Irving NC St ILB 164 Jerrard Tarrant Georgia Tech S 165 Mike Mohamed Cal LB 166 Kendric Burney North Carolina CB 167 Stevan Ridley LSU RB 168 Charles Clay Tulsa FB 169 Adrian Moten Maryland LB 170 Nic Grigsby Arizona RB 171 Brandon Bair Oregon DE 172 Austin Pettis Boise St WR 173 Dwayne Harris East Carolina WR 174 Mark Legree Appalachian St S 175 Greg Salas Hawaii WR 176 Chris Hairston Clemson OT 177 Greg McElroy Alabama QB 178 Greg Romeus Pittsburgh DE 179 Ahmad Black Florida S 180 Dion Lewis Pittsburgh RB 181 Brandon Saine Ohio St RB 182 Justin Boren Ohio St G 183 Casey Matthews Oregon LB 184 Jah Reid Central Florida OT 185 Kris O'Dowd USC C 186 Chykie Brown Texas CB 187 Pat Devlin Delaware QB 188 Brandon Fusco Slippery Rock C 189 Korey Lindsey-Woods Southern Illinois CB 190 Davonte Shannon Buffalo S 191 Colin Jones TCU S 192 Zach Hurd Connecticut G 193 Vic So'oto BYU DE 194 David Arkin Missouri St G 195 Brandon Hogan West Virginia CB 196 Byron Maxwell Clemson CB 197 Kai Forbath UCLA K 198 Pernell McPhee Mississippi St DE 199 Jeremy Ross Cal WR 200 David Mims Virginia Union OT [ Edited by MadDog49er on Mar 19, 2011 at 18:28:24 ]

Mar 19, 2011 at 8:36 PM

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ChaunceyGardner
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Jeff Maehl is under rated by not being in the top 200 on your board. The guy is a gamer and makes big plays and someone is going to end up with a hell of a a 3rd or 4th receiver. I am also a big Oregon fan.

Brandon Fusco C from Slippery Rock seems like the kind of player someone is going to grab and end up with a solid player, I like the mid round developmental type oline this year.

I have Andrew Jackson G from Fresno State going sooner than later, I think he will get someone to like the Patriots to shore up the interior line.

Henry Hynoski keeps getting good write ups but I have not seen much of him at all. What is your take on him?

Nice board, fun read.

Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM

#17

buhda
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After Taiwan Juice Jones pro day on March 31. we have to take him with a 4th.Add him with Charles Clay in the 4th.

Mar 20, 2011 at 12:22 AM

#18

SWAGG-ER
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I'd like to see a MD ranking list (top 32, say). Similar to the one i do (based on what your eyes tell you, not what pundits tell you). If you have time. Just so i can get a gauge on the types of players you think will do the best at the next level.

Mar 20, 2011 at 12:50 AM

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Travisty13
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No Darius Morris from Temple? I've read some have him in the 4th round. He can play Tackle and will more then likely shift in to a Guard position.

Mar 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM

#20

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Jeff Maehl is under rated by not being in the top 200 on your board. The guy is a gamer and makes big plays and someone is going to end up with a hell of a a 3rd or 4th receiver. I am also a big Oregon fan.

Brandon Fusco C from Slippery Rock seems like the kind of player someone is going to grab and end up with a solid player, I like the mid round developmental type oline this year.

I have Andrew Jackson G from Fresno State going sooner than later, I think he will get someone to like the Patriots to shore up the interior line.

Henry Hynoski keeps getting good write ups but I have not seen much of him at all. What is your take on him?

Nice board, fun read.

Great list of players. Maehl is a great college player, but his speed is severely lacking, running at best in the mid 4.6's. He is probably a 7th rounder or free agent. The best aspect of Maehl is his short area cutting ability. He posted terrific 3 cone and short shuttle numbers.

Fusco will probably be the highest draftee on your list, and I project him in the 6th round. He could end up a fifth rounder, but I don't see anything earlier.

Jackson is a 7th rounder right now in my projections. He's a tad bit older than most players (26 this upcoming year), but has some upside athletically.

Hynoski is a solid blocking FB, but his speed at over 5.00 is going to push him into the 7th round, in my estimation.

Mar 20, 2011 at 8:16 AM

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MadDog49er
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Originally posted by Travisty13:
No Darius Morris from Temple? I've read some have him in the 4th round. He can play Tackle and will more then likely shift in to a Guard position.

I see Morris as a bubble draftee, a 7th rounder or free agent. He will probably have to kick in to guard at the next level, but does offer some versatility, which is huge for late round OL. A good year as an All-MAC first team for the Owls.

Mar 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM

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jb49ers80
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175 Greg Salas Hawaii WR
177 Greg McElroy Alabama QB
178 Greg Romeus Pittsburgh DE
179 Ahmad Black Florida S

I've heard some scouts are really high on Salas. Like 2nd/3rd round high. That seems a little crazy, but I've got to believe he goes before the 6th. He could make a nice possession receiver for somebody. Also, you think Black's 40 time pushes him that far down? I know he's small, but the guy always seems to be around the ball.

I know Romeus was injured this year, but he was a potential 1st rounder at the end of last season. You don't think his first three seasons could lead to him being drafted higher than round 6? I wouldn't mind taking a risk on him in the 4th.

Also, considering that we need 3 new QBs for next season, I would love to grab McElroy in the 6th. He seems like a guy that will have a long career as a backup in the NFL. A guy that can come in a win a few games for you if your starter is injured.

Mar 20, 2011 at 2:23 PM

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fortyyearniner
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MadDog, New to the board but have been observing your dilegent work for years. Terrific work. Thank you for your efforts.

Mar 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM

#24

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by jb49ers80:
175 Greg Salas Hawaii WR
177 Greg McElroy Alabama QB
178 Greg Romeus Pittsburgh DE
179 Ahmad Black Florida S

I've heard some scouts are really high on Salas. Like 2nd/3rd round high. That seems a little crazy, but I've got to believe he goes before the 6th. He could make a nice possession receiver for somebody. Also, you think Black's 40 time pushes him that far down? I know he's small, but the guy always seems to be around the ball.

I know Romeus was injured this year, but he was a potential 1st rounder at the end of last season. You don't think his first three seasons could lead to him being drafted higher than round 6? I wouldn't mind taking a risk on him in the 4th.

Also, considering that we need 3 new QBs for next season, I would love to grab McElroy in the 6th. He seems like a guy that will have a long career as a backup in the NFL. A guy that can come in a win a few games for you if your starter is injured.

All of these guys mentioned were terrific college players, but all have physical limitation/speed issues entering the NFL, and that is going to push them way down the board.

Black is probably the best known and best player of the bunch, but his continual slow times are going to be a gigantic issue in covering the back end of the secondary. Short and slow is not a good combo entering the NFL.

Salas posted unreal numbers in Hawaii's system, and is a good possession receiver, but a 4.56 time is going to limit how high he can go in the draft. I made an error in transferring the placement of Jeremy Kerley and Greg Salas. It should have been Salas at 153, and Kerley at 176. It is a 23 spot difference, and that is a big difference in the draft. Thanks for the note.

McElroy has a mediocre arm, and that keeps him in the 5th/6th round area.

As for Romeus, he's had a year to forget. First, back surgery, then a torn ACL...and his mom died. I'm guessing the medical reports do not turn out to be good news for him, and this drives him down the board. I wish the kid the best.

Mar 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM

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MadDog49er
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Originally posted by fortyyearniner:
MadDog, New to the board but have been observing your dilegent work for years. Terrific work. Thank you for your efforts.

Thanks for the kind words. I enjoy the draft process and the challenge of trying how to figure out how all will shake down.

Mar 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM

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MadDog49er
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Originally posted by buhda:
After Taiwan Juice Jones pro day on March 31. we have to take him with a 4th.Add him with Charles Clay in the 4th.

I think there will be a lot of interest at his workout.

Mar 20, 2011 at 4:36 PM

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D-Money
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Great job man. Now I know you said this isn't an overall mock draft, but I have to think the first round is or close to. That being said, I would be pissed if Dallas moved to the spot ahead of us to select Peterson. I would be happy as hell that we selected Robert Quinn, a true badass pass rusher who I think will be far better than Von Miller. I would be shocked if we selected anyone else other than Peterson if AJ Green is still on the board. I know we need D to the fullest and someone to throw him the ball!!! Yeah I know, but adding a receiver that will be one the best in the league is just to good to pass up. Green would be our Fitzgearld, that's how good I think Green can be.

My opinion and the nature of the draft. Once again great board/ranking.

Mar 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

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AB81Rules
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great work MD, Im hoping to work out my new big board, been busy.

But on topic, looks good, I may not be a Gabbert guy As I like newton more.

But Gabbert had a good pro day, so i can see him high on the board.

My Board is different, not neccessarly where they end up, but more how i feel about them.

Mar 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM

#29

submoa
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Here is the ever expanding Big 200 Board

MD, just gotta says thx cuz I really enjoy your work... I always print off your Big Board right before the draft and cross off the selections as they come off to see who is available for our 9ers... great job bro as I know a lot of work goes in to it and looking forward to the final edition.

[ Edited by submoa on Mar 20, 2011 at 18:09:42 ]

Mar 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM

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MadDog49er
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Originally posted by D-Money:
Great job man. Now I know you said this isn't an overall mock draft, but I have to think the first round is or close to. That being said, I would be pissed if Dallas moved to the spot ahead of us to select Peterson. I would be happy as hell that we selected Robert Quinn, a true badass pass rusher who I think will be far better than Von Miller. I would be shocked if we selected anyone else other than Peterson if AJ Green is still on the board. I know we need D to the fullest and someone to throw him the ball!!! Yeah I know, but adding a receiver that will be one the best in the league is just to good to pass up. Green would be our Fitzgearld, that's how good I think Green can be.

My opinion and the nature of the draft. Once again great board/ranking.

In this mock, I do project the Cowboys trading uo to land Peterson. I agree that Green should be the pick, before Quinn, if this scenario played out and the Niners were on the board with Green available.