The Trade/Stanford Mock Draft ver 1.0

ninertico · 2011-02-08T13:30:54-08:00

Alrighty then, I decided to see if I could come up with a trade mock and include some of Fangio's main keys to his D at Stanford that he could use here at 49erland. Without further adieu: 1 Car Fairley Perfect fit for their porous run D. Great penetrator in the Sapp mold. 2 Den Peterson Just too good to pass up especially in an area of need. Gives them excellent value as a top-notch return specialist. 3 Buf Dareus Between he and Gabbert, but Dareus is too good of a great fit for their 3-4 D. Gailey wants to mold another QB in the later rounds since they are keeping Fitzpatrick as their QB. 4 Cincy Bowers Excellent pass rusher that they need badly. Gabbert and Green given consideration, but Bowers gives them a better prospect in an area of need. 5 AZ Von Miller Frickin’ AZ! They take our chance at the best pass rusher in this year’s class and they fill an area of desperate need. They will pick up a FA QB rather than Gabbert. IMO, the only way this is NOT Miller is if Peterson drops. Then and only then, will Miller drop. In this scenario, AZ gets their new pass rusher and becomes a burr on our backside for years to come. Boo! 6 Clev Green As easy as it gets! Fits perfectly and gives McCoy a great #1 WR. In most years, he would be a top three pick for sure. Cleveland lands the best value so far! Ding Ding Ding! TRADE!!! Minny trades 1st and 2nd to jump to number seven 7 Min Gabbert Minny now grabs its franchise QB before Tenn, Wash and Mia. Given their need for one and the fact that Gabbert is the first QB off the board, they give up their second for him. All three other franchises also wanted him, but offered less. To Minny, they feel they get a steal since he dropped by Buf, AZ and SF is willing to allow him to be taken by someone else. Lucky for us, it was a great move by Baalke. 8 Tenn Quinn They thought about Newton for a moment and then they went back to the pass rusher they have been missing for some time. Quinn easily steps in from day one. 9 Dal Solder Given their deep need at OT, I see them taking Solder. He was already considered a first round prospect and the SB and Combine will inch him further up the boards. I can even see Costanzo here, but they take the better upside with Solder. 10 Wash Newton They thank their luck stars as Shanny now gets a QB to mold into the WCO. He can sit Cam for two years so he can learn the system well. In the meantime, Shanny will use Grossman and cut McNabb. 11 Hou A. Smith Wade needs a WILL and finds him in Smith. Climbing up boards, he finds a home with Wade who sticks him in to his 3-4 from day one. 12 SF Amukamara Baalke went with his gut on this one with Harbaugh's blessing. Quinn or Amukamara would be the choice at #7, but Minny offered too fat of an offer to refuse as their #1 prospect was still on the board at the time. Therefore, the trade to land Gabbert sent us their #43 pick and as Baalke expected, Prince drops to us at #12!! What a steal! The only place I can see Prince landing in the 8-11 slot would be at #9 with Dallas. Other than that, I really can see Prince drop because of both Newton and Gabbert in the top 10. Hey, it could. The rest of the first round: 13 Det J. Smith 14 StL Jones 15 Mia Jordan 16 Jax Kerrigan 17 NE T. Smith 18 SD Carimi 19 NYG Castonzo 20 TB Ayers 21 KC Pouncey 22 Ind Sherrod 23 Phi Harris 24 NO Watt 25 Sea Locker 26 Bal Moore 27 Atl Rudolph 28 NE Ingram 29 Chi Heyward 30 NYJ Taylor 31 Pit Wilkerson 32 GB Williams Six rounds: Rd1 Prince Amukamara, CB Our Lockdown #1 CB, stick him in and call it day. Day one starter Rd2 Colin Kapernick, QB I too believe his stock is climbing very high with too much upside not to grab in the second. Harbaugh's project will be ready for unveiling in 2012-2013. He will jump into the second after his Combine and Pro Days especially given how dang fast he is on his feet, his arm strength, accuracy and moxie. Yes, we will be getting a FA WCO QB in McNabb, Hasselbeck or even Alex Smith who is not the one I want. Whether you like it or not, any of these three would be great stop gaps until Kap is ready. Rd2 Brooks Reed, DE/OLB He’s jumped up the boards with his great practices and game at the Senior Bowl. Once considered a fourth rounder, his non-stop motor, excellent coverage, and containment of the edge with ease drives him up. His frame is perfect for the role of 3-4 OLB AND he's got a variety of pass rush moves. He, too, will jump from the third after the Combine. He will compete with LaBoy, Gibson and Haralson for the starting job. At the very least, great rotation like last year, keeping them fresh! Rd3 Sione Fua, NT I see him in that 3-4 round range. However, he's perfect for Fangio's D AND he could come in as a rookie and play because he already knows the system. There wouldn’t be a learning curve for one of the most important positions in Fangio’s D. If Franklin bolts, this is almost a no brainer. He can gain an extra 10-15 pounds before the season starts. He too benefited from a solid week at the Senior Bowl. I love the way he slices into the backfield while still handing a double team. Rd4a James Carpenter, OG/OT He may be gone by this point, but for now he’s a fourth rounder. He showed versatility at the Senior Bowl against Kerrigan at LOT, but can play both OG spots. Let him compete against Rachal, Wragge and Snyder for the ROG spot. If nothing else, more depth for our OL. Rd4b Richard Sherman, CB/FS He too knows Fangio’s system well and plays STs. He can come in and provide solid depth while competing against some of the older Vets for backup role. Give him a year, and he could overtake Spencer. We need another CB in this draft, IMO. Rd5 Thomas Keiser, DE/OLB At 6-5, 252, he can provide depth at OLB for Fangio’s D plus he’s already done it. He, in the meantime, can provide great ST play. Was either he or Steven Friday of V-Tech, yet Keiser provides a resource already familiar with the scheme. Rd6 Henry Hynoski, FB At 260, this kid’s a wrecking ball with hands. He’s our new “Rathman”. He would provide an upgrade over the aging Morris with a bigger body and better pass catching ability. He, too, would start from day one. I think though when it's said and done, he'll be a fourth or fifth rounder. For now, he's ours in the sixth. There you have it! Eh, it's a mock.

Feb 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM

SWAGG-ER
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Why would Houston's last ranked pass d pass on prince? oh wait, they wouldn't.

Back to the drawing board.

Feb 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM

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oh hell no, you lost me with the Kolin pick, I'm sorry I'm not buying that his stock will even touch the 2nd round, 3rd round is fine he may even still be there in the 4th

oh and the Houston thing too, they are not passing on Prince

I love you dawg, I just don't see this happening

[ Edited by vrabbit on Feb 8, 2011 at 13:38:02 ]

Feb 8, 2011 at 1:39 PM

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Originally posted by vrabbit:
oh hell no, you lost me with the Kolin pick, I'm sorry I'm not buying that his stock will even touch the 2nd round, 3rd round is fine he may even still be there in the 4th

oh and the Houston thing too, they are not passing on Prince

I love you dawg, I just don't see this happening

Feb 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM

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So instead of the Niners taking the qb of the future prospect, they let Minnesota get that guy, then draft a lesser talented guy for that same spot? Makes no sense. Just take Gabbert.

Feb 8, 2011 at 1:58 PM

LumpiaJeff
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I like the Brooks Reed selection for sure.

Feb 8, 2011 at 2:06 PM

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Originally posted by vrabbit:
oh hell no, you lost me with the Kolin pick, I'm sorry I'm not buying that his stock will even touch the 2nd round, 3rd round is fine he may even still be there in the 4th

oh and the Houston thing too, they are not passing on Prince

I love you dawg, I just don't see this happening

Also doubtful Dallas passes on him in the first place. Trading back that far pretty much guarantees losing out on a top tier talent and then grabbing a mid round level and there isn't much difference between 13 and 25 talent wise. I'd rather get the better player at 7.

Feb 8, 2011 at 2:20 PM

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Not crazy about trading all the way down to 12. I think the Niners have to come out of this draft with an elite CB( Peterson or Prince), a top OLB ( Miller or Quinn) or a franchise type QB ( Gabbert). I just dont think any of them will still be around at #12.

Feb 8, 2011 at 2:23 PM

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That's cool about Houston and Prince. I too can see them jumping on Prince. However, I believe that Aldon Smith will jump up the boards. Houston now running a 3-4 will need a WILL backer as well as a CB. Given the depth at CB especially in the second, I see them going with Smith. I understand your points, but no, I don't need to go back to the drawing board on that one.

As far as Gabbert being a higher prospect than Amukamara. Could be and that's why we get the offer for him. Getting an extra second, not a third, is what prompted the trade so the value is definitely there. If you really like Gabbert or Quinn, I can see this trade upsetting some of you. The trade is what makes it happen and Minny can afford it. Oh and given Harbaugh's QB prowess, yea, he can by pass a QB at #7 and still get a talented QB in Kap, Dalton or Ponder, IMO, who would all fit perfectly in Harbaugh's system. JMO.

As far as Kap, to each their own. I saw some great things from this kid over that Senior Bowl week AND I am not the only one pegging him as a second rounder. The Combine will drive his stock high, IMO. Here's a Kid with almost the size of Newton with better footwork and work ethic plus better accuracy.

Sorry V, my NinerBro, you may get upset on draft day then.

However, I really do believe we will see someone jump into the top 10 for either Newton or Gabbert or both which will send two players out of the top 10 for sure, they all can't be top 10s. If both Buffalo and AZ don't pick a QB, then I can see someone trading with possibly Cleveland to get one if they think we will take one of them. Or they could trade with us.

It is not out of the realm of possibilities.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Not crazy about trading all the way down to 12. I think the Niners have to come out of this draft with an elite CB( Peterson or Prince), a top OLB ( Miller or Quinn) or a franchise type QB ( Gabbert). I just dont think any of them will still be around at #12.

That's the thing, one of them could be if both QBs are taken in the top 10. Still, I am grounded in the fact that Baalke will only trade back if he knows he can still land a top 10 prospect at #12, let's say. If not, each of the prospects you mentioned could become a 49er as each would fill a great need.

[ Edited by ninertico on Feb 8, 2011 at 14:26:22 ]

Feb 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM

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Originally posted by lamontb:
So instead of the Niners taking the qb of the future prospect, they let Minnesota get that guy, then draft a lesser talented guy for that same spot? Makes no sense. Just take Gabbert.

LOL um, no.

Feb 8, 2011 at 3:30 PM

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Originally posted by lamontb:
So instead of the Niners taking the qb of the future prospect, they let Minnesota get that guy, then draft a lesser talented guy for that same spot? Makes no sense. Just take Gabbert.

I agree. and then focus on getting a solid CB in FA. We cant continue to overlook the QB position.

Feb 8, 2011 at 3:38 PM

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Sorry Tico... Not feeling this scenario at all.

I wouldn't pass on getting a guy like Quinn, with the hope of landing Prince, which I think wouldn't happen.

Right now I couldn't see him falling to #12. But, it's along way to the draft and who knows.

[ Edited by DaveWilcox on Feb 8, 2011 at 17:05:31 ]

Feb 8, 2011 at 4:46 PM

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Sjceruti
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Meehh...not a fan.

Feb 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM

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Dallas won't pass up Prince at 9, so we won't be able to get him, IMO.

Kap in the 2nd is too high. Fua in the 3rd is too high. Sherman in the 4th is once again, TOO HIGH. Sherman could likely be had in the 7th.

Feb 9, 2011 at 6:27 PM

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Tico, the trade with the Vikings might happen.

If we went that route, I wouldn't take Amukamara because Wes Bunting has a nice article on his lack of recovery speed. Bunting projects him as a safety in the NFL.