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4ML's 4 rounds Mock 1.0 (Saquon falls)
Jan 15, 2018 at 6:08 PM
- SteveYoung
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Will Hernandez is about 25 pounds roo heavy for Shanahan. Won't be happening
Jan 15, 2018 at 6:16 PM
- Hysterikal
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Lol you said McFadden is physical. Dudes about as soft as it gets
Jan 15, 2018 at 6:35 PM
- Dillesq
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Chubb has a better chance at slipping than saquon.
Jan 15, 2018 at 8:43 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Awesome offseason. Maybe swap Hernandez for another G
Jan 15, 2018 at 9:12 PM
- SteveYoung
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And do we really want any more guys who failed drug tests??
Jan 16, 2018 at 2:50 AM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by SteveYoung:Will Hernandez is about 25 pounds roo heavy for Shanahan. Won't be happening
Will Hernandez is actually quick for his size but I like Isaiah Wynn as well and is very versatile.
Jan 16, 2018 at 2:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:Lol you said McFadden is physical. Dudes about as soft as it gets
Yes - when he's in press coverage - he's quite good and physical. I understand he's not a very good tackler but that's an issue with lot of CBs.
I really like Mike Hughes and Nick Nelson if you don't like McFadden.
Jan 16, 2018 at 2:59 AM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by Dillesq:Chubb has a better chance at slipping than saquon.
Did anyone think Crabtree was gonna fall to us?
This is a really deep RB class - too early to say that Saquon can't slip.
Jan 16, 2018 at 3:00 AM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Awesome offseason. Maybe swap Hernandez for another G
Thanks. I like Isaiah Wynn at Guard/Center (Who can play emergency T).
Jan 16, 2018 at 4:14 AM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by 4ML:Originally posted by Hysterikal:Lol you said McFadden is physical. Dudes about as soft as it gets
Yes - when he's in press coverage - he's quite good and physical. I understand he's not a very good tackler but that's an issue with lot of CBs.
I really like Mike Hughes and Nick Nelson if you don't like McFadden.
I don't hate McFadden and I think in a cover 3 he could excel just off his traits and his love of staring in the backfield. I don't think by draft time you will have to burn a 2nd rounder on him thought. 3rd or 4th rounder is where I see him going off of potential.
Jan 16, 2018 at 4:35 AM
- NYniner85
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Imo McFadden isn't a 2nd rd pick, there are other DBs they will be taken before him and move up the boards (and I'm a FSU fan)
Hernandez isn't a fit for ZBS. I'm not sure you need to spend a 3rd on Desmond Harrison either.
I just can't see Barkley falling to 9th, you say Crabtree fell but Barkley didn't have a injury or a diva attitude.
I also don't see your FAs as monster upgrades for a pass rush.
Sorry my man not my favorite mock BUT a lot can change-thanks!
Hernandez isn't a fit for ZBS. I'm not sure you need to spend a 3rd on Desmond Harrison either.
I just can't see Barkley falling to 9th, you say Crabtree fell but Barkley didn't have a injury or a diva attitude.
I also don't see your FAs as monster upgrades for a pass rush.
Sorry my man not my favorite mock BUT a lot can change-thanks!
Jan 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM
- krizay
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Imo McFadden isn't a 2nd rd pick, there are other DBs they will be taken before him and move up the boards (and I'm a FSU fan)
Hernandez isn't a fit for ZBS. I'm not sure you need to spend a 3rd on Desmond Harrison either.
I just can't see Barkley falling to 9th, you say Crabtree fell but Barkley didn't have a injury or a diva attitude.
I also don't see your FAs as monster upgrades for a pass rush.
Sorry my man not my favorite mock BUT a lot can change-thanks!
That's the thing. You and others seem to think all these holes will be plugged in this one off-season. I assure you that it will not be.
Jan 16, 2018 at 10:14 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by krizay:That's the thing. You and others seem to think all these holes will be plugged in this one off-season. I assure you that it will not be.
I understand that but is Trent Murphy a massive improvement, especially with a torn ACL/MCL ?
What does Jerry Attaochu offer that we currently don't have?
I'm not saying we will go after every big FA, but I don't think that 3 of his 5 FA ended their seasons on IR would be a smart way to tackle free agency....thought we were done with the Baalke yrs?
Jan 16, 2018 at 10:32 AM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Imo McFadden isn't a 2nd rd pick, there are other DBs they will be taken before him and move up the boards (and I'm a FSU fan)
Hernandez isn't a fit for ZBS. I'm not sure you need to spend a 3rd on Desmond Harrison either.
I just can't see Barkley falling to 9th, you say Crabtree fell but Barkley didn't have a injury or a diva attitude.
I also don't see your FAs as monster upgrades for a pass rush.
Sorry my man not my favorite mock BUT a lot can change-thanks!
Thanks for your comments. I appreciate that.
Right now McFadden is projected to go in 2nd rd on many draft boards - so I'm going by that. Of course he can fall. We have late 2nd rd pick and early 3rd round picks - so not too far apart. Plus, I have two other CBs as second and third option with that pick (Nick Nelson and Mike Hughes). Point is - I'd like them to invest a 2nd rd pick on a CB they like the most available at that spot.
Fine point on Hernandez and that's why I included another option of Isaiah Wynn. I really like Hernandez but yes he doesn't exactly fit the scheme. Isaiah Wynn does.
RBs have a history of falling in the draft and there are lot of high potential RBs in the draft. Again, someone dropping 5 picks in top 10 isn't a huge drop off and can happen - especially at RB, G and MLB position when you have 5-6 QBs who are likely to go in top 20 picks.
There won't be monster DE available in FA. I'm not a fan of Ansah. 9 of his 12 sacks came against Giants, Bengals, and Aaron Rodgerless Packers. He's super inconsistent with technique and effort and that'll likely get worse once he gets paid. Dallas isn't letting Lawrence go. After that - unfortunately there are no monster upgrades available in FA.