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Not a fan of Williams, Barnett would be ideal in a trade down only if Garrett isn't there. Kaaya does seem to be in the same mold as Matt Ryan but I don't think he has a high ceiling.
  • GEEK
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Few thoughts:
- Aggressive FA signings. Some good pickups there, especially Logan.
- Not sure I like the two WRs and then trade Smith away, especially when we don't address the position in the draft.
- Not a fan of Malcolm Smith in a pure 3-4 scheme. He's more of a sideline to sideline 4-3 LB to me.
- Same thing with Derek Barnett. Love him as a player and great pickup, but I don't see him as a 3-4 OLB. He's a perfect 4-3 penetrator.
- Kaaya should be a R3-R4 guy, but I'm just not a fan of his game.
- We are already parting away from Tartt?
[ Edited by GEEK on Feb 7, 2017 at 8:54 AM ]
What happened to the 2nd picks in round 5 6 and 7
I just can't get behind any draft that has us taking Kaaya before round 4. That guy is awful under pressure and I don't think you can fix that. 4th round or later it's worth gambling to see if he can shake that but if he doesn't have that in college it's very unlikely he gets it right in the NFL.

I wouldn't mind Barnett but if we had to take someone there without trading down I'd rather go with Solomon Thomas or Jonathan Allen.
WR's are no good, we need to draft a talented youngster
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Logan is a DT in a 4-3 and a 3-4 DE. That whole front outside of the ILBs are going to get ran over again.
17 contract signings? 10 free agents?
Originally posted by lamontb:
17 contract signings? 10 free agents?

Originally posted by GEEK:
Few thoughts:
- Aggressive FA signings. Some good pickups there, especially Logan.
- Not sure I like the two WRs and then trade Smith away, especially when we don't address the position in the draft.
- Not a fan of Malcolm Smith in a pure 3-4 scheme. He's more of a sideline to sideline 4-3 LB to me.
- Same thing with Derek Barnett. Love him as a player and great pickup, but I don't see him as a 3-4 OLB. He's a perfect 4-3 penetrator.
- Kaaya should be a R3-R4 guy, but I'm just not a fan of his game.
- We are already parting away from Tartt?


Barnett is the second rated 3/4 olb, he played standing, and from a four point stance and did better standing. He dropped into coverage and had at least one interception. He had better production than Garret in SEC play.
Originally posted by TheNef77:
Logan is a DT in a 4-3 and a 3-4 DE. That whole front outside of the ILBs are going to get ran over again.

No he isn't.

He is a NT and one of the better ones in the league. He was just playing out of position in Philly. He is a beast inside. A true two down run stopper.

NJ Advance Media's Mark Eckel reports the Redskins will target impending free agent NT Bennie Logan if he hits the open market.
The Redskins didn't even have a pure nose tackle this past season, and their run defense suffered greatly because of it. Washington simply rotated linemen across their front, finishing 25th in run-defense DVOA. Logan didn't fit quite as well in DC Jim Schwartz's 4-3 scheme. He's more of a traditional 3-4 nose and would be an excellent fit with the Redskins

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8439/bennie-logan
Originally posted by lamontb:
17 contract signings? 10 free agents?

Full out re-build. 100+ mil in cap space. New GM and coach. I don't see half the roster from last year playing a down for us next year.
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
WR's are no good, we need to draft a talented youngster

Can't fix all the holes in one year.

We have a deep threat in Kenny Stills, a chain mover in Terrance Williams and a threat at TE in Vance McDonald. Plus, we have two good RB's to catch the ball out of the backfield and the best pass catching FB in the league.

Sure we could use an AJ or Julio but there isn't one available this year in the draft or free agency.
[ Edited by SteveYoung on Feb 7, 2017 at 1:37 PM ]
Good draft

10 FA is way too much IMO
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Originally posted by genus49:
I just can't get behind any draft that has us taking Kaaya before round 4. That guy is awful under pressure and I don't think you can fix that. 4th round or later it's worth gambling to see if he can shake that but if he doesn't have that in college it's very unlikely he gets it right in the NFL.

I wouldn't mind Barnett but if we had to take someone there without trading down I'd rather go with Solomon Thomas or Jonathan Allen.

if kaaya is a 4th rounder trubs is a 2nd or 3rd for sure
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