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Aug 12, 2021 at 12:38 AM
never liked him and thought he was mediocre, but he can prove me wrong.
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Aug 12, 2021 at 3:52 AM
Aug 12, 2021 at 5:32 AM
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
never liked him and thought he was mediocre, but he can prove me wrong.

it is a good depth signing for now, we have taken a couple of hits at the position in training camp. Guys will heal and he will get a chance in the meantime to prove he is worth keeping.
Aug 12, 2021 at 5:37 AM
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
never liked him and thought he was mediocre, but he can prove me wrong.

it is a good depth signing for now, we have taken a couple of hits at the position in training camp. Guys will heal and he will get a chance in the meantime to prove he is worth keeping.

Yup, not sure why all the hate on Ha Ha? He's not a pro-bowler (if he was he wouldn't be available right now) but he's got plenty of starts under his belt and can play all over the field.

I think they could have done much worse at this point in the off season.
Aug 12, 2021 at 6:09 AM
  • Shifty
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Solid depth signing. Be curious to see how he does battling for time against Wilson and Jefferson
Aug 12, 2021 at 6:13 AM
Originally posted by Shifty:
Solid depth signing. Be curious to see how he does battling for time against Wilson and Jefferson

Jefferson is out right now as well...I've also heard he's been awful in coverage.
Aug 12, 2021 at 8:46 AM
I always felt it was his name more than his ability that made him easily remembered. Still, he's a decent player that can certainly add some depth if nothing else while JT is out. Besides, I can't wait until Tim Ryan messes up his name during a game and calls him Clinton's dick.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Aug 12, 2021 at 9:00 AM ]
Aug 12, 2021 at 8:55 AM
  • thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
never liked him and thought he was mediocre, but he can prove me wrong.

it is a good depth signing for now, we have taken a couple of hits at the position in training camp. Guys will heal and he will get a chance in the meantime to prove he is worth keeping.

Yup, not sure why all the hate on Ha Ha? He's not a pro-bowler (if he was he wouldn't be available right now) but he's got plenty of starts under his belt and can play all over the field.

I think they could have done much worse at this point in the off season.

Wait, so a bit of criticism on his game is now considered 'hate'?
Aug 12, 2021 at 9:18 AM
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I've read a number of articles and thought this one, from a Packers site, gave a good summary of how a former Pro Bowler, and 2nd team All Pro, went from that to a street free agent in a span of 3 seasons.

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/11/01/dougherty-unraveling-mystery-ha-ha-clinton-dixs-decline/1848782002/
"He thought he was good enough that he didn't have to study as much as a rookie (does)," a team source said of Clinton-Dix's mindset the last two seasons. "He's guessing (in pass coverage). He's thinking that's how you get paid."
It's true that Clinton-Dix has his moments of excellence, like his impressive interception of Buffalo rookie quarterback Josh Allen in Week 4 this year. On that play, Clinton-Dix held his deep zone until Allen threw outside, then made a strong break on the ball and knocked receiver Kelvin Benjamin out of the game while making a tough, physical interception.
But then there are the big plays where he freelanced and gave up points.
But after a Pro Bowl season in 2016 he lost his edge, fell in love with the idea that he's a playmaker and turned into a gambler at a position that punishes gamblers.
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If Ha Ha doesn't change his game, we will see what DeMeco Ryans values in his safeties - solid play versus big play ability. Ryans just talked about how he's all about turnovers. Ha Ha gambles to create turnovers, and he's shown he can get them, but with that comes occasionally surrendering the big play.
Aug 12, 2021 at 9:28 AM
Originally posted by thl408:
I've read a number of articles and thought this one, from a Packers site, gave a good summary of how a former Pro Bowler, and 2nd team All Pro, went from that to a street free agent in a span of 3 seasons.

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/11/01/dougherty-unraveling-mystery-ha-ha-clinton-dixs-decline/1848782002/
"He thought he was good enough that he didn't have to study as much as a rookie (does)," a team source said of Clinton-Dix's mindset the last two seasons. "He's guessing (in pass coverage). He's thinking that's how you get paid."
It's true that Clinton-Dix has his moments of excellence, like his impressive interception of Buffalo rookie quarterback Josh Allen in Week 4 this year. On that play, Clinton-Dix held his deep zone until Allen threw outside, then made a strong break on the ball and knocked receiver Kelvin Benjamin out of the game while making a tough, physical interception.
But then there are the big plays where he freelanced and gave up points.
But after a Pro Bowl season in 2016 he lost his edge, fell in love with the idea that he's a playmaker and turned into a gambler at a position that punishes gamblers.
--------------------------

If Ha Ha doesn't change his game, we will see what DeMeco Ryans values in his safeties - solid play versus big play ability. Ryans just talked about how he's all about turnovers. Ha Ha gambles to create turnovers, and he's shown he can get them, but with that comes occasionally surrendering the big play.

Where is Mike Singletary when you need him?

Pull them pants down sir
Aug 12, 2021 at 12:50 PM
Aug 12, 2021 at 1:34 PM
Now I hear that Jefferson is still hobbling a bit from his rehab. Sounds like that is going to be a weak spot in the defense. Bosa and Ford need to put lot's of pressure on the QB or those guys are going to get burned.
Aug 12, 2021 at 1:51 PM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Now I hear that Jefferson is still hobbling a bit from his rehab. Sounds like that is going to be a weak spot in the defense. Bosa and Ford need to put lot's of pressure on the QB or those guys are going to get burned.

safety has always been the weak spot since Hitner and Goldson/Reid left.

Don't @ me about Ward.
Aug 12, 2021 at 2:13 PM
Originally posted by Bloodless:

Love it
Aug 12, 2021 at 3:06 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
How'd he go from pro bowl safety to street free agent? Not that Pro Bowl means much but usually you don't suck if you're a pro bowler.

agreed it's a little odd. The getting cut by the cowboys thing rings especially strange; they ate his contract too.

This guy could/should be solid at a minimum.
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