Carson Wentz traded to the Colts

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol Albright isn't even close to Sileo and Javi. He's a legit insider.

Who cares if SF reached out, they're clearly doing it for every QB. Doesn't mean anything will happen

You wanted a mobile, big armed passer.

#Eagles — QB Carson Wentz made some throws today in the 2nd half vs. WASH. And this might be the best one. Scramble drill. Look-up Miles Sanders in the corner of the end zone. That's a rocket. @NFLMatchup pic.twitter.com/cQCZ5Tw3HC

— Matt Bowen (@MattBowen41) December 16, 2019

The Carson Wentz spin on coaches tape. All-out blitz, had a screen called. 16-yard scramble. pic.twitter.com/2F7s8eYl1v

— Sheil Kapadia (@SheilKapadia) November 28, 2017

@cj_wentz has great mobility.

Wentz: 153 QB scramble yards=2nd best!
(R. Wilson-154)

9 QB scrambles for 1st down= 1st in NFL!#JawsStats pic.twitter.com/Bsng00YzK0

— Ron Jaworski (@JawsCEOQB) October 25, 2017

Whipped up another one.

Carson Wentz can throw a deep ball: compilation #4. 🦅 pic.twitter.com/IDVXrQWgI4

— Victor Williams (@ThePhillyPod) October 11, 2019

This is what bothers me more regarding Wentz (plus the injuries)

Inside Carson Wentz's turbulent season and the forces behind his regression.

A perfect storm of organizational hero-worship, dubious coaching, injuries, poor roster management and Wentz himself led to one of the NFL's worst-ever QB declines.

The story: https://t.co/nNWn0VNwUh

— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) January 16, 2021

Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
That's probally the most fair offer considering we have to take on that contract. They should have to give something of value for someone to take that contract off their hands. Rams had to give an extra 1st to get someone to take Goff. I don't see how Wentz has much more value than him.

Like some other QB's, the contract isn't that bad for the team acquiring him. It isn't cheap but it's not exorbitant, especially if he gets back to looking like he did in 2017. If he doesn't get back to that level of play then you're kind of screwed.

And that's why no team whose interested in trading for him would give the Eagles the stupid nonsense they're asking for. They should just be happy they're getting a 2nd-3rd and getting that contract off their books

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Yeah, Wentz is broken right now - he needs to play to get out of his funk. I'd be really weary to trade for him with all his issues.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Yeah, Wentz is broken right now - he needs to play to get out of his funk. I'd be really weary to trade for him with all his issues.

Not sure you can fix his mental side...dude was crying about losing his starting gig in public. Leaders don't do that.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Ok so you don't think he was trying to do too much with practice squad wrs, busts at wrs as well and no damn oline? Then a coach who looks like he was over his head after he lost Frank Reich to Indy? Let's not act like this was Philly from 17' when before he tore his acl and Foles took over he was about to win an MVP. I swear just like with the Stafford situation no one takes the time to look that their teams and just look at the damn stats.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Yeah, Wentz is broken right now - he needs to play to get out of his funk. I'd be really weary to trade for him with all his issues.

Not sure you can fix his mental side...dude was crying about losing his starting gig in public. Leaders don't do that.

That's what is a major red flag to me and even with the crazy talent makes me want no parts then the fact year after year you hear players not on his side

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Ok so you don't think he was trying to do too much with practice squad wrs, busts at wrs as well and no damn oline? Then a coach who looks like he was over his head after he lost Frank Reich to Indy? Let's not act like this was Philly from 17' when before he tore his acl and Foles took over he was about to win an MVP. I swear just like with the Stafford situation no one takes the time to look that their teams and just look at the damn stats.

You can make excuses for him all you want. Here's a good explanation. If nobody's open throw it away instead of throwing an interception. If nobody's open don't hold onto the ball too long to take a sack. Don't play horrendously when pressure is in your face. There's plenty of ways to avoid being one of the worst quarterbacks if not the very worst quarterback this last year. Now if you wanna live in the past I can do that too because in 2017 Jimmy Garoppolo was playing like a top-five quarterback so we can go that route if you want. Jimmy Garoppolo also had little to no help at receiver, little to no help in pass protection and his defense sucked the first five games. So I hope we're done here.

We all took plenty of time to look at his situation and beyond his statistics it's just some people like yourself seem not to accept reality and that's fine you're entitled to that

also, did you see how J Hurts had the exact same situation and absolutely excelled. To the point they are going with him and dumping Wentz. So your argument is invalid. Yes Wentz can do better on a better team but that goes for every qb in this league

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Yeah, Wentz is broken right now - he needs to play to get out of his funk. I'd be really weary to trade for him with all his issues.

Not sure you can fix his mental side...dude was crying about losing his starting gig in public. Leaders don't do that.

That's what is a major red flag to me and even with the crazy talent makes me want no parts then the fact year after year you hear players not on his side

Yeah, that's a maturity thing that he's got to overcome.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Yeah, Wentz is broken right now - he needs to play to get out of his funk. I'd be really weary to trade for him with all his issues.

Not sure you can fix his mental side...dude was crying about losing his starting gig in public. Leaders don't do that.

That's what is a major red flag to me and even with the crazy talent makes me want no parts then the fact year after year you hear players not on his side

Yeah, that's a maturity thing that he's got to overcome.

He's 28...a bit late to still need maturing.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Whoever says Wentz isn't talented is clearly blind, dude is as talented as any top qb in the league. Its all mental and health with him. I also thought the lack of talent and oline made him try to force and do too much

What about piss poor decision making, a turnover machine and wildly inaccurate passes. Not to mention taking sacks and holding the ball so long he makes CJ Beathard look like he has a quick release

Yeah, Wentz is broken right now - he needs to play to get out of his funk. I'd be really weary to trade for him with all his issues.

Not sure you can fix his mental side...dude was crying about losing his starting gig in public. Leaders don't do that.

That's what is a major red flag to me and even with the crazy talent makes me want no parts then the fact year after year you hear players not on his side

Yeah, that's a maturity thing that he's got to overcome.

He's 28...a bit late to still need maturing.

Yeah, he's acting like a spoiled brat.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
That's what is a major red flag to me and even with the crazy talent makes me want no parts then the fact year after year you hear players not on his side

Bigger red flag is his teammates dont seem to like him.

Originally posted by elguapo:
You can make excuses for him all you want. Here's a good explanation. If nobody's open throw it away instead of throwing an interception. If nobody's open don't hold onto the ball too long to take a sack. Don't play horrendously when pressure is in your face. There's plenty of ways to avoid being one of the worst quarterbacks if not the very worst quarterback this last year. Now if you wanna live in the past I can do that too because in 2017 Jimmy Garoppolo was playing like a top-five quarterback so we can go that route if you want. Jimmy Garoppolo also had little to no help at receiver, little to no help in pass protection and his defense sucked the first five games. So I hope we're done here.

We all took plenty of time to look at his situation and beyond his statistics it's just some people like yourself seem not to accept reality and that's fine you're entitled to that

also, did you see how J Hurts had the exact same situation and absolutely excelled. To the point they are going with him and dumping Wentz. So your argument is invalid. Yes Wentz can do better on a better team but that goes for every qb in this league

Hurts also had the benefit of no NFL teams having film on him. Its a pretty common thing. Remember when Garoppolo showed up and blew the doors off in 2017? Kaepernick in 2012? Let's see how he looks once he's had about 15-20 starts.

I think Wentz's issues are largely mental. He had his injury just when he was playing at the top of his game, comes back to find Nick Foles as the hero of Philadelphia and the guy who was his biggest backer goes off to become head coach of the Colts. Now he's playing for a team with a poor OL, poor receivers, a coach who appears to he in over his head and a locker room divided between its allegiance to the guy they won a SB with and the guy who was balling like crazy until he got hurt.

I still think that Wentz's best opportunity to recover is going to be with the Colts. Back with Reich, given a high quality OL and management that knows what they're doing.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by elguapo:
You can make excuses for him all you want. Here's a good explanation. If nobody's open throw it away instead of throwing an interception. If nobody's open don't hold onto the ball too long to take a sack. Don't play horrendously when pressure is in your face. There's plenty of ways to avoid being one of the worst quarterbacks if not the very worst quarterback this last year. Now if you wanna live in the past I can do that too because in 2017 Jimmy Garoppolo was playing like a top-five quarterback so we can go that route if you want. Jimmy Garoppolo also had little to no help at receiver, little to no help in pass protection and his defense sucked the first five games. So I hope we're done here.

We all took plenty of time to look at his situation and beyond his statistics it's just some people like yourself seem not to accept reality and that's fine you're entitled to that

also, did you see how J Hurts had the exact same situation and absolutely excelled. To the point they are going with him and dumping Wentz. So your argument is invalid. Yes Wentz can do better on a better team but that goes for every qb in this league

He also had the benefit of no NFL teams having film on him. Its a pretty common thing. Remember when Garoppolo showed up and blew the doors off in 2017? Kaepernick in 2012? Let's see how he looks once he's had about 15-20 starts.

I think Wentz's issues are largely mental. He had his injury just when he was playing at the top of his game, comes back to find Nick Foles as the hero of Philadelphia and the guy who was his biggest backer goes off to become head coach of the Colts. Now he's playing for a team with a poor OL, poor receivers, a coach who appears to he in over his head and a locker room divided between its allegiance to the guy they won a SB with and the guy who was balling like crazy until he got hurt.

I still think that Wentz's best opportunity to recover is going to be with the Colts. Back with Reich, given a high quality OL and management that knows what they're doing.

Yeah, I pray we don't trade for him.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by elguapo:
You can make excuses for him all you want. Here's a good explanation. If nobody's open throw it away instead of throwing an interception. If nobody's open don't hold onto the ball too long to take a sack. Don't play horrendously when pressure is in your face. There's plenty of ways to avoid being one of the worst quarterbacks if not the very worst quarterback this last year. Now if you wanna live in the past I can do that too because in 2017 Jimmy Garoppolo was playing like a top-five quarterback so we can go that route if you want. Jimmy Garoppolo also had little to no help at receiver, little to no help in pass protection and his defense sucked the first five games. So I hope we're done here.

We all took plenty of time to look at his situation and beyond his statistics it's just some people like yourself seem not to accept reality and that's fine you're entitled to that

also, did you see how J Hurts had the exact same situation and absolutely excelled. To the point they are going with him and dumping Wentz. So your argument is invalid. Yes Wentz can do better on a better team but that goes for every qb in this league

He also had the benefit of no NFL teams having film on him. Its a pretty common thing. Remember when Garoppolo showed up and blew the doors off in 2017? Kaepernick in 2012? Let's see how he looks once he's had about 15-20 starts.

I think Wentz's issues are largely mental. He had his injury just when he was playing at the top of his game, comes back to find Nick Foles as the hero of Philadelphia and the guy who was his biggest backer goes off to become head coach of the Colts. Now he's playing for a team with a poor OL, poor receivers, a coach who appears to he in over his head and a locker room divided between its allegiance to the guy they won a SB with and the guy who was balling like crazy until he got hurt.

I still think that Wentz's best opportunity to recover is going to be with the Colts. Back with Reich, given a high quality OL and management that knows what they're doing.

Yeah, I pray we don't trade for him.

People are still making excuses for Wentz. Now it's the whole no film on new qb's Ok, so let's dismiss Hurts. Now let's address Wentz's disgusting play the last few years. Did Wentz's "mental" issues cause him to throw the most ints, take the most sacks and preform the worst under pressure? Enough is enough. Just so glad these Wentz supporters aren't in charge of the niners.