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Rodgers and Shanahan together with those huge egos?

The world isn´t that big.
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Rodgers and Shanahan together with those huge egos?

The world isn´t that big.

It is if you wanna win super bowls. Rodgers would fit shannys offense Lafleurs a pupil of shanny.
  • mayo49
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Can you imagine what the Packers would ask for Rodgers? The moon.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Can you imagine what the Packers would ask for Rodgers? The moon.

The way Lynch drafts I'd give up 2 firsts for him. I'd trade solomon Thomas and Mcglinchy for Rodgers in a heart beat. He has at least 4 years left remember when Peyton went to Denver? We'd get at least 2 more rings with Rodgers.
Originally posted by 24karat49er:
I'd trade solomon Thomas and Mcglinchy for Rodgers in a heart beat.

I'm sure you would. I'd throw in a bag of crisps too, and a half-empty jar of mustard I have in the fridge since before the first lockdown. My wife hates mustard, so she would be pleased.

It takes two to trade. Trading your rejects for blue chip players only happens when one of the two is in the concussion protocol or equivalent. A tackle is always sort of useful, but GB's problem isn't in the OL.

If Rodgers is going anywhere, and he won't, it will take something close to the stupid packages mentioned for Watson. It ain't happening.
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Dude is too selfish to take a cut.

Sorry, this always drives me nuts.

"Dude" is a professional who risks his health for our entertainment and the enrichment of perhaps the most despicable set of welfare "capitalists" around. One of whom (and I know all the silly stuff about how wonderful the "ownerless" Packers are) signed a contract with him paying him all this money. Dude should insist on getting the last penny.

Take them to the effing cleaners, Aaron.
Originally posted by paulk205:
Originally posted by 24karat49er:
I'd trade solomon Thomas and Mcglinchy for Rodgers in a heart beat.

I'm sure you would. I'd throw in a bag of crisps too, and a half-empty jar of mustard I have in the fridge since before the first lockdown. My wife hates mustard, so she would be pleased.

It takes two to trade. Trading your rejects for blue chip players only happens when one of the two is in the concussion protocol or equivalent. A tackle is always sort of useful, but GB's problem isn't in the OL.

If Rodgers is going anywhere, and he won't, it will take something close to the stupid packages mentioned for Watson. It ain't happening.
Dude I'm talking about I'd rather give our first this year and our first next year for Rodgers. Pretty much I'm saying Lynch sucks at drafting. His best 1st round choices were Bosa (obvious choice) and Aiyuk everyone else was either average or a bust. So at this point I'd rather get a future hall of Famer then draft mediocre players. I don't literally mean Thomas and Mcglinchy but I'm saying if those are the type of guys we're spending 1st round picks on might as well trade a couple future firsts for Rodgers. Let's win a super bowl we missed out on brady.
[ Edited by 24karat49er on Jan 25, 2021 at 1:15 AM ]
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Rodgers and Shanahan together with those huge egos?

The world isn´t that big.

Agreed! Also, Kyle calls certain plays to set up other plays. With Rodgers constantly RPO'ing out of run plays not allowing Kyle to set up his stuff... Not saying it couldn't work. I mean it is Aaron freaking Rodgers but...
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I thought that while the dead money is prorated onto the next year for the trading team it gets distributed among the remaining years of the contract for the receiving team.

So take 10.5mil off each of his remaing three years.

2021 - 26.5mil
2022 - 29mil
2023 - 18mil

So yeah, 73-74mil over 3 years.

Pure fantasy stuff. GB not taking on 31mil dead cap.

Only way this happens is if Rodgers really digs in. Don't see it happening and they aren't going to send him to us considering how it could very likely bite them in the ass.

They save $70M between 2022/2023.
Originally posted by Jcool:

Considering SF will have $120M if they move off JG/Richburg/Ford in 2022....that's not really an option.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Can you imagine what the Packers would ask for Rodgers? The moon.

37 yr old QB? Montana went for a 1st. Favre went for a 3rd (after going 13-3). I think it's all silly talk anyway...he's gonna be in GB next yr or retire
Originally posted by 24karat49er:
Dude I'm talking about I'd rather give our first this year and our first next year for Rodgers. Pretty much I'm saying Lynch sucks at drafting. His best 1st round choices were Bosa (obvious choice) and Aiyuk everyone else was either average or a bust. So at this point I'd rather get a future hall of Famer then draft mediocre players. I don't literally mean Thomas and Mcglinchy but I'm saying if those are the type of guys we're spending 1st round picks on might as well trade a couple future firsts for Rodgers. Let's win a super bowl we missed out on brady.

Well, in this case you are not guilty of Maddenitis (and apologies for assuming so) but sadly of selective analysis of the past. The same picks that turned into Thomas/McG are also the equivalent of Mahomes/Jackson, or Watson/Fitzpatrick, or any other combination of All-Pros you want from 2017/8.

You have a thesis that our drafting sucks, so we can piss away our first rounders because they are worthless anyway. The truth is that we draft up and down, like all teams. Sure, we whiff on first rounders now and then, but we also hit homers in the lower rounds. Like everybody. There is a high degree of volatility in the draft. What is certain about it however is that, on average, it will provide the team with younger and (more importantly) cheaper talent to fit in the team.

Let's say we swing a Rodgers trade and we somehow engineer fitting him in our cap this year. How do we look for the season after that? Does it mean that all our young starters will be have to be let go like Buckner because we can't fit them in a Rodgers-filled cap? And there is zero guarantee that we win next year, as this year's experience with injuries or indeed GB's defeats in the championship games of the last two years proves. The risk/return profile is too poor. If it works and we get a title, great. But the chances of this are low anyway. If it doesn't we will be crippled for years.

As to the cap hit, the chorus of naysayers already are saying that it would cost the Packers more than $31 million to trade Rodgers. First, trading Rodgers costs the Packers nothing; the team would simply take a cap charge from unallocated bonus payments. In Rodgers' case, past bonus payments already will count for $14.352 million in his 2021 cap number. Trading him before June 1 (more on that in a second) would accelerate $17.204 million into 2021, bumping the total cap charge to $31.556 million.

That's a lot, to be sure. But Rodgers, with $22.35 million in 2021 compensation, already has a cap number of $37.572 million. Thus, trading him before June 1 (more on that in a second) would actually create a net cap savings of $6.016 million.

Jordan Love, the man drafted in April ostensibly to replace Rodgers, has a cap number of $2.814 million in 2021.

The fact most overlooked by the THIRTY-ONE MILLION CAP HIT! crowd is this: The Packers could keep the cap charge at $14.352 million for 2021 by trading Rodgers after June 1.

Here's where the naysayers would say that the Packers and Rodgers' new team would never wait that long to do the deal. But why not? If the Packers would choose to carry $37.572 million under Rodgers' name from March 17 until June 2 in order to ultimately save $23.22 million in 2021 cap space, a June 2 trade becomes extremely viable. And with the ongoing pandemic likely making the on-field offseason program a nullity for a second straight year, why wouldn't a team that wants Rodgers agree to do a tentative trade in, for example, March but then agree to delay the execution of the deal until June 2?

Nothing would prevent that. The practice of teams striking tentative trades before the start of the league year has become routine. Reaching a deal with the express understanding that it would become finalized on June 2 would be no different.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Can you imagine what the Packers would ask for Rodgers? The moon.

37 yr old QB? Montana went for a 1st. Favre went for a 3rd (after going 13-3). I think it's all silly talk anyway...he's gonna be in GB next yr or retire

Like Gronk retire or??
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