Nick Mullens in a package for an edge rusher?

Just because Ramsey may not be apart of Jax long term plans doesn't mean they'd trade him for AJ Feeley 2.0. Ramsey can get a 1st rounder on the open market. He's a top 5 pick who's lived up to that status.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Just because Ramsey may not be apart of Jax long term plans doesn't mean they'd trade him for AJ Feeley 2.0. Ramsey can get a 1st rounder on the open market. He's a top 5 pick who's lived up to that status.

Normally I would agree (I think he's worth a late 1st if you can get an extension) but look at all the recent examples of high end talents that are in the dog house coming up on their contract year and clear the team won't resign them. Marcus Peters a 3rd year ALL PRO was had for a 3rd rd pick. Sheldon Richardson a 2 time Pro Bowl player was traded for a 2nd. Brandon Marshall a 2 time Pro Bowler and top 5 wr was traded for a 2nd. Freaking Chandler Jones who was an All Pro pass rusher with a good rap sheet was traded for a 2nd. Pro Bowl player Jamie Collins was had for a 3rd rd comp pick.

Maybe a "window" team would offer a first but I think you underestimate how front offices are going to react to Jalen Ramsey being a me first player and punk all season. Half of the fanbase even wants him gone. Combine that with the fact that he massively regressed this year to the point he's not considered a top 5 CB. The problem with these types of players is they're only worth a first if you will lock them up longterm but who wants to lock up a player like that to a longterm huge money deal. It's a big risk which discounts their value.

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Normally I would agree (I think he's worth a late 1st if you can get an extension) but look at all the recent examples of high end talents that are in the dog house coming up on their contract year and clear the team won't resign them. Marcus Peters a 3rd year ALL PRO was had for a 3rd rd pick. Sheldon Richardson a 2 time Pro Bowl player was traded for a 2nd. Brandon Marshall a 2 time Pro Bowler and top 5 wr was traded for a 2nd. Freaking Chandler Jones who was an All Pro pass rusher with a good rap sheet was traded for a 2nd. Pro Bowl player Jamie Collins was had for a 3rd rd comp pick.

Maybe a "window" team would offer a first but I think you underestimate how front offices are going to react to Jalen Ramsey being a me first player and punk all season. Half of the fanbase even wants him gone. Combine that with the fact that he massively regressed this year to the point he's not considered a top 5 CB. The problem with these types of players is they're only worth a first if you will lock them up longterm but who wants to lock up a player like that to a longterm huge money deal. It's a big risk which discounts their value.

All those red flags apply to our interest in him too. He's going to demand to be paid by us and we're a very value conscience organization. My bet is Ramsey plays out his deal in Jax and a few years from now hits the open market. That's how it typically goes with corners. Fact is they got him for 2 more seasons so there's little reason to trade him unless it's for market value right now.

That trade value is down to a ham sandwich.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

That trade value is down to a ham sandwich.

Mullens TD, ham upgraded to bacon.

LMAO

Mullins for Von Miller!!!!