Nick Mullens in a package for an edge rusher?

Niners would never get more than a 3rd for Mullens and I think that is a stretch. My guess is 4th would be the most they could get and at that point it makes more sense to keep him and hopefully get a 7th for Beathard.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Niners would never get more than a 3rd for Mullens and I think that is a stretch. My guess is 4th would be the most they could get and at that point it makes more sense to keep him and hopefully get a 7th for Beathard.

Shoot, the way Mullens is playing... I could see him being very valuable. He's putting up ridiculous numbers right now. He just beat both the Broncos and the Seahawks. Imagine if he takes down the last two teams on our schedule. He could become very very valuable.

No.

Keep him until we are SURE that JG is a franchise QB.

NO TEAM will trade for Mullen.. everyone needs to calm down.. the guy is playing well, but the guy is nothing more than a very good backup... a team will be in GOOD HANDS if he was to come in as a sub or a temporary starter when the 1st stringer gets injured, but to say as a STARTER, uhmmmmmm.... go watch Fitzpatrick and at best, that's what Mullen would be... AT BEST..

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Niners would never get more than a 3rd for Mullens and I think that is a stretch. My guess is 4th would be the most they could get and at that point it makes more sense to keep him and hopefully get a 7th for Beathard.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
He's an undrafted rookie who went 3-3. 96 qb rating which isn't anything special nowadays. Most fo will assume he's a Shanny system result. 6th round value tops in a trade is my guess.

That and a 2nd round pick probably isn't going to get it done for those guys.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This. Keep in mind that Matt Schaub went from so so QB to Pro Bowler under Shanahan. Mullen doesn't have anywhere nearly a long enough resume and his lack of ideal size/arm strength is going to limit interest in him.

I do disagree on compensation. I think a team would float a 3rd or 4th rounder for him. Teams regularly take flyers on QBs in those rounds that turn out to do absolutely nothing in the NFL and Mullens has at least shown that he possesses legit NFL level QB traits and ability.

I just don't understand it.

He's been many, many times better than Sam Darnold. Than Josh Allen. Than Josh Rosen. The numbers say so. The winning percentages say so. Even the eye test arguably says so. Especially this last game when he constantly threw the ball away with pressure in his face.

These QB's were all taken in the TOP 10. Not just in the 1st round. In the TOP 10. With NO NFL tape whatsoever.

I just don't get why Mullens, with now six games of NFL experience and way better numbers to show for it over all these highly-drafted rookies, isn't worth at LEAST a low 2nd. But I guess that's why I'm not a GM.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

I just don't understand it.

He's been many, many times better than Sam Darnold. Than Josh Allen. Than Josh Rosen. The numbers say so. The winning percentages say so. Even the eye test arguably says so. Especially this last game when he constantly threw the ball away with pressure in his face.

These QB's were all taken in the TOP 10. Not just in the 1st round. In the TOP 10. With NO NFL tape whatsoever.

I just don't get why Mullens, with now six games of NFL experience and way better numbers to show for it over all these highly-drafted rookies, isn't worth at LEAST a low 2nd. But I guess that's why I'm not a GM.

Clubs are well aware what happens when Cassel leaves the nest. Trade value is determined by market value. You'd have to have multiple teams thinking this dude is a franchise qb to get the package you're proposing. Maybe Phoenix is right and you could get the 3rd or 4th but teams won't throw in an end. They can get a better deal trading them straight up.

lol.

Mullens does not have a long enough resume to be worth a decent ER unless a first or second round pick is included.

Also, Beathard has not shown enough at this point to be a reliable backup for an as yet fully proven Garappolo.

ERs are the second most important position on a team in this passing league. They cost a bundle and they are worth it if they are good.

They should not trade Nick Mullens for anything. Finding a functional QB is hard in the NFL. You need a backup and maybe even a starter as Jimmy G is hurt a lot in his career. There is no guarantee that Jimmy G can stay healthy. He hasn't done so for his career up to this time. Mullens can also get much better over time. A functional QB is just as important or more so than a pass rusher.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They should not trade Nick Mullens for anything. Finding a functional QB is hard in the NFL. You need a backup and maybe even a starter as Jimmy G is hurt a lot in his career. There is no guarantee that Jimmy G can stay healthy. He hasn't done so for his career up to this time. Mullens can also get much better over time. A functional QB is just as important or more so than a pass rusher.

I would trade Mullens in a heartbeat if it meant getting into the top spot to draft Bosa. Seriously, you wouldnt trade a backup QB for anything?

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They should not trade Nick Mullens for anything. Finding a functional QB is hard in the NFL. You need a backup and maybe even a starter as Jimmy G is hurt a lot in his career. There is no guarantee that Jimmy G can stay healthy. He hasn't done so for his career up to this time. Mullens can also get much better over time. A functional QB is just as important or more so than a pass rusher.

I would trade Mullens in a heartbeat if it meant getting into the top spot to draft Bosa. Seriously, you wouldnt trade a backup QB for anything?

We won't be able to get Bosa. With fragile Jimmy G who is always hurt Mullens could well end up as our long term starter. He is far better than Beathard.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They should not trade Nick Mullens for anything. Finding a functional QB is hard in the NFL. You need a backup and maybe even a starter as Jimmy G is hurt a lot in his career. There is no guarantee that Jimmy G can stay healthy. He hasn't done so for his career up to this time. Mullens can also get much better over time. A functional QB is just as important or more so than a pass rusher.

I would trade Mullens in a heartbeat if it meant getting into the top spot to draft Bosa. Seriously, you wouldnt trade a backup QB for anything?

We won't be able to get Bosa. With fragile Jimmy G who is always hurt Mullens could well end up as our long term starter. He is far better than Beathard.

You said you wouldnt trade Mullens for anything. I, on the other hand would trade him for a move up in the draft, a #1 or #2 pick, a very good experienced pass rusher, a top WR, and a young very good LT. He is a backup and will likely always be a backup in the NFL

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They should not trade Nick Mullens for anything. Finding a functional QB is hard in the NFL. You need a backup and maybe even a starter as Jimmy G is hurt a lot in his career. There is no guarantee that Jimmy G can stay healthy. He hasn't done so for his career up to this time. Mullens can also get much better over time. A functional QB is just as important or more so than a pass rusher.

I would trade Mullens in a heartbeat if it meant getting into the top spot to draft Bosa. Seriously, you wouldnt trade a backup QB for anything?

We won't be able to get Bosa. With fragile Jimmy G who is always hurt Mullens could well end up as our long term starter. He is far better than Beathard.

You said you wouldnt trade Mullens for anything. I, on the other hand would trade him for a move up in the draft, a #1 or #2 pick, a very good experienced pass rusher, a top WR, and a young very good LT. He is a backup and will likely always be a backup in the NFL

We are not going to get the #1 or #2 pick. Forget it. We will pick a lot lower than that. That's over.

Im afraid we must trade him.

If you read nt on a regular basis, Jimmy is the next Joe. Mullens the next Steve.

One must go. Its going to be too much drama keeping them both.

If you can't denote sarcasm, please disregard this post.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We are not going to get the #1 or #2 pick. Forget it. We will pick a lot lower than that. That's over.

I meant a first or 2nd rd pick. Plus all the other things I mentioned. My point... he is a backup and I wouldnt hesitate moving him if there were takers willing to pay a higher than expected cost