49ERS & JAGZ POSSIBLE TRADE

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

First off, why trade Goodwin? lol

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Niners 1st and 3rd and 3rd next year for Ramsey and their 1st this year would make sense to me, and I'd do it..

So swap firsts. Give them 2019 and 2020 third round pick for Ramsey? I think I'd be on board with that. I was thinking trading them another player instead of another pick because we have so few.

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Niners 1st and 3rd and 3rd next year for Ramsey and their 1st this year would make sense to me, and I'd do it..

So swap firsts. Give them 2019 and 2020 third round pick for Ramsey? I think I'd be on board with that. I was thinking trading them another player instead of another pick because we have so few.

I love when our fans propose lopsided deals that clearly favor us.

No way we get Ramsay for that deal without throwing in our 2020 1st instead of those 3rds proposed. Ramsay is 10x better than Peters and look what he fetched.

Maybe if there was a legit franchise QB in this class that had scouts raving, but there currently isn't and that lowers the value of the #1 pick.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Niners 1st and 3rd and 3rd next year for Ramsey and their 1st this year would make sense to me, and I'd do it..

So swap firsts. Give them 2019 and 2020 third round pick for Ramsey? I think I'd be on board with that. I was thinking trading them another player instead of another pick because we have so few.

I love when our fans propose lopsided deals that clearly favor us.

No way we get Ramsay for that deal without throwing in our 2020 1st instead of those 3rds proposed. Ramsay is 10x better than Peters and look what he fetched.

Maybe if there was a legit franchise QB in this class that had scouts raving, but there currently isn't and that lowers the value of the #1 pick.

By the way, I thought I should also mention that I'd still do that deal if it cost us our 2020 first. We get a chance to add Ramsey and maybe Polite/Ferrell, then sign me up. As long as Jimmy stays healthy, that 2020 pick will be outside the top 20 anyway.

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Originally posted by 9moon:
Jagz to trade Ramsey, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder, and 2020 (1st & 2nd)

49ers to send 1st (or 2nd overall), Garnett, Goodwin and a 2020 (3rd rounder)

So let me get this straight.

We get:

The Jags 3rd (probably around pick #70)
The Jags 1st AND 2nd in 2020
AND Jalen Ramsey?

All for moving down from #1 overall to #8 overall, Goodwin and some change?

We'd be stupid not to take this trade, IMO. We can still get a good pass rusher with pick #8.

Way too lopsided to happen.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Jagz to trade Ramsey, 1st rounder, 3rd rounder, and 2020 (1st & 2nd)

49ers to send 1st (or 2nd overall), Garnett, Goodwin and a 2020 (3rd rounder)

Get out of here with trading Goodwin, he's our best WR, why trade him, makes no sense. And too much for Ramsey, Garnett brings no value, while we need a shut down CB, we need a EDGE rusher more IMO, it will help the DBs out if we get pressure on the QB.

Ramsey is having a down year this year. His mouth has been getting him more publicity than his play on the field.

If they want to swap 1s to move up for a QB, I might take Ramsey straight up for that. To move from 8th to 2nd (projected currently) would require 1,400 points in draft value. That is the equivalent of the #8 overall pick. So, to make that deal, the 49ers would have to agree that he was currently worth the #8 overall pick in the draft. To me, that is a 50/50 proposition.

The key is, does Jax think any QB in the upcoming draft is worth that price?

Also, do the 49ers think they can get a quality ER at #8?

I would rather have a top-end ER than Ramsey. A good ER will make the entire secondary look better. A good CB will only fix one position. I don't see us solving both those needs in this deal.

Originally posted by dj43:

Ramsey is having a down year this year. His mouth has been getting him more publicity than his play on the field.

If they want to swap 1s to move up for a QB, I might take Ramsey straight up for that. To move from 8th to 2nd (projected currently) would require 1,400 points in draft value. That is the equivalent of the #8 overall pick. So, to make that deal, the 49ers would have to agree that he was currently worth the #8 overall pick in the draft. To me, that is a 50/50 proposition.

The key is, does Jax think any QB in the upcoming draft is worth that price?

Also, do the 49ers think they can get a quality ER at #8?

I would rather have a top-end ER than Ramsey. A good ER will make the entire secondary look better. A good CB will only fix one position. I don't see us solving both those needs in this deal.

Idk man, getting Ramsey then draft Josh Allen who I think will be there at 8 would be pretty enticing to me..then add Ray, Thomas and an ILB and this defense would be fixed IMO..

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by dj43:
Ramsey is having a down year this year. His mouth has been getting him more publicity than his play on the field.

If they want to swap 1s to move up for a QB, I might take Ramsey straight up for that. To move from 8th to 2nd (projected currently) would require 1,400 points in draft value. That is the equivalent of the #8 overall pick. So, to make that deal, the 49ers would have to agree that he was currently worth the #8 overall pick in the draft. To me, that is a 50/50 proposition.

The key is, does Jax think any QB in the upcoming draft is worth that price?

Also, do the 49ers think they can get a quality ER at #8?

I would rather have a top-end ER than Ramsey. A good ER will make the entire secondary look better. A good CB will only fix one position. I don't see us solving both those needs in this deal.

Idk man, getting Ramsey then draft Josh Allen who I think will be there at 8 would be pretty enticing to me..then add Ray, Thomas and an ILB and this defense would be fixed IMO..

That is why discussion boards are so much fun.

So, what ERs do you think will be picked before Allen? In this flag football passing league there will not be any of the top 7 teams that do NOT need an ER.
Boss seems certain to be gone by #8.

At #1/2, we are almost certain to have our pick of ERs. At #8,

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Ramsey is having a down year this year. His mouth has been getting him more publicity than his play on the field.

If they want to swap 1s to move up for a QB, I might take Ramsey straight up for that. To move from 8th to 2nd (projected currently) would require 1,400 points in draft value. That is the equivalent of the #8 overall pick. So, to make that deal, the 49ers would have to agree that he was currently worth the #8 overall pick in the draft. To me, that is a 50/50 proposition.

The key is, does Jax think any QB in the upcoming draft is worth that price?

Also, do the 49ers think they can get a quality ER at #8?

I would rather have a top-end ER than Ramsey. A good ER will make the entire secondary look better. A good CB will only fix one position. I don't see us solving both those needs in this deal.

Idk man, getting Ramsey then draft Josh Allen who I think will be there at 8 would be pretty enticing to me..then add Ray, Thomas and an ILB and this defense would be fixed IMO..

That is why discussion boards are so much fun.

So, what ERs do you think will be picked before Allen? In this flag football passing league there will not be any of the top 7 teams that do NOT need an ER.
Boss seems certain to be gone by #8.

At #1/2, we are almost certain to have our pick of ERs. At #8,

I think like you said Bosa is definitely gone by 8, then It's tough Bc Ferrell I've seen as the next off the board in a lot of mocks, Polite is going to kill the workouts and help himself, Sweat is going to help himself as well, and Allen could almost do it all in the front 7, any of those 4 and im ok with them at 8..I think all 5 go in the top 15 honestly..

I DONT UNDERSTAND why people are wondering why we would try and seek a trade for us to benefit??

Well, what STUPID team(s), GMs and COACHING STAFF would agree to make a trade if we don't benefit??

ALSO....

I am betting that the same people here who BELIEVED that both the Rams and the Eagles gave up too much for Goff and Wentz no longer sees it that way.. .and even if they did give up a bit too much, has it been worth it??

WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS.. for every "BIG DEAL" that happens.. there will be the..

The Rams and Eric Dickerson to the Colts
The Cowboys and Hershell Walker to the Vikings
Redskins and the RG3 deal
Rams and the Goff deal
Eagles and the Wentz deal..

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Garbage. Why would we get a CB when our pass rush still sucks.

Originally posted by valrod33:
No

We get Ramsey
Jags get our 2nd round pick

BOOM

if we can steal him away for a 2nd, I'm all for it.

JAGZ wont give him away for a 2nd rounder..

and the 49ers would be idiots to give up a top 3 pick for him

I think you missed the other trade that moon made. We basically switch first rounders. They get first pick or second and we get their pick which is currently sixth.

Niners get: Ramsey, 2019 pick #6 and third round pick, Jags 2020 first and second round pick.

Jags get: 2019 pick #1, Goodwin and Garnett, Niners 2020 third round pick.

Unless I read that trade wrong but I think that would be a steal.

YOU GOT IT !!

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Niners 1st and 3rd and 3rd next year for Ramsey and their 1st this year would make sense to me, and I'd do it..

So swap firsts. Give them 2019 and 2020 third round pick for Ramsey? I think I'd be on board with that. I was thinking trading them another player instead of another pick because we have so few.

I love when our fans propose lopsided deals that clearly favor us.

No way we get Ramsay for that deal without throwing in our 2020 1st instead of those 3rds proposed. Ramsay is 10x better than Peters and look what he fetched.

Maybe if there was a legit franchise QB in this class that had scouts raving, but there currently isn't and that lowers the value of the #1 pick.

Not sure I see your point when Peters and a 6th rounder were traded for a 2nd and a 4th....

Btw here is a trade from 2012 to move up from 6th overall you might recall

2012 - Redskins for RG3
Redskins receive: 2012 first-rounder (No. 2: QB Robert Griffin III)
Rams receive: 2012 first-rounder (No. 6: Traded to Cowboys), 2012 second-round selection (No. 39: CB Janoris Jenkins), 2013 first-rounder (No. 22: Traded to Falcons), 2014 first-rounder (No. 2: OT Greg Robinson)

The rams gave up a lot to move up for Goff too. Swapped firsts, 2 2nds, a 3d, and the following years first and thirds for number 1, a 4th and 6th.

Originally posted by 9moon:

I DONT UNDERSTAND why people are wondering why we would try and seek a trade for us to benefit??

Well, what STUPID team(s), GMs and COACHING STAFF would agree to make a trade if we don't benefit??

ALSO....

I am betting that the same people here who BELIEVED that both the Rams and the Eagles gave up too much for Goff and Wentz no longer sees it that way.. .and even if they did give up a bit too much, has it been worth it??

WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS.. for every "BIG DEAL" that happens.. there will be the..

The Rams and Eric Dickerson to the Colts
The Cowboys and Hershell Walker to the Vikings
Redskins and the RG3 deal
Rams and the Goff deal
Eagles and the Wentz deal..

A trade has to benefit both teams. Without a frachise qb in the offing, I personally doubt many teams will give up these sort of deals. Dickerson and Walker were both back in the day when franchise rb's were top priority. And Dallas torched the Vikings idiots.

So you have 3 examples of deals involving players who were considered to be franchise qb's in the making. There is still a little time but I am not sure who this year's franchise qb is.

And we dont want to trade down too far, which limits the options. And most teams want or will take edge. I am confident we will be offered a trade but I doubt it will be a sack of treasure.

Take Bosa.