How much should Lynch overpay FAs? | Page 2

dj43 · 2018-03-15T16:16:44-07:00

Much has been said locally and across the nation about the fact that the 49ers have paid more than many thought they should for the FAs they have signed. While those things are somewhat subjective, there is one thing that is not subjective and that is the added cost of living here in the Bay Area as compared to other areas with NFL teams. In order to give a better idea how much more Lynch would have to pay FAs to come here versus other areas, here is a breakdown of state income taxes, overall state cost of living and cost of living by urban area. State income taxes - highest to lowest CA - 13.3% MN - 9.85% WI - 9% NY - 8.8% GA & MO - 6% NC - 5.5% IL & OH - 5% AZ - 4.5% MI - 4.3% PA - 3% WA, TX, FL, NV - 0% - 7 teams once the Raiders move to Vegas will have a 13.3% advantage over SF. IOW, Lynch will have to overpay by AT LEAST 13.3%, plus COL difference just to break even. _________________ Statewide cost of living - those in top 10 only listed NY - #2 CA - 3 MA - 4 NJ - 7 ________________ Cost of living by urban area (top 10 only) NYC - #1 SF - 2 San Jose - 7 Orange County (LA) - 9 Washington DC - 10 We will never know how much was offered to those who did not come, but we should pump the brakes a little bit when looking at the contracts that have been signed before we say they were overpaid.

Mar 16, 2018 at 1:44 PM

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Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by krizay:
Are we talking about the salray of vendors? Grounds crew? Ushers? Security? Etc.... or are we talking about the salary of MULTIMILLION dollar athletes? I think theyll be just fine.

It's about what it takes to compete with lower cost markets. Athletes deserve to get market value but if one team is in a market that has a large Cost of Living advantage over another, the higher cost team will have to "overpay" in order to get the player.

Yes, the player will get a big chunk of change, however, in a professional with such a short shelf life, signing a contract with a 15% lower net value does not make sense.

maybe a Cost of Living Index supplement??

Mar 16, 2018 at 2:17 PM

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dj43
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Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Cost of living should not have any adjustments, But state taxes should.

A player can somewhat avoid the cost of living as can the team, but state taxes can not be.

And i think state tax percentage is the way to go.

True, they will have some latitude, however, in order to get into a significantly lower housing/cost of living area, a player would have to live on the east side of the Altamont pass. The Livermore corridor is not much cheaper than the San Jose area. Unfortunately, the commute time would make locating in the Mountain House/Tracey area unworkable.

Mar 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Cost of living should not have any adjustments, But state taxes should.

A player can somewhat avoid the cost of living as can the team, but state taxes can not be.

And i think state tax percentage is the way to go.

True, they will have some latitude, however, in order to get into a significantly lower housing/cost of living area, a player would have to live on the east side of the Altamont pass. The Livermore corridor is not much cheaper than the San Jose area. Unfortunately, the commute time would make locating in the Mountain House/Tracey area unworkable.

There's no reason for them to live near the facilities. It's not they work a normal 9-5 job.

Mar 22, 2018 at 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by smithgdwg:
CA is sooo f**ked up.

Truth!

That's why I moved to Nevada.

Mar 22, 2018 at 4:05 PM

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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
CA is sooo f**ked up.

Truth!

That's why I moved to Nevada.

Money can't buy consistent happiness

Mar 22, 2018 at 4:22 PM

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dj43
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Cost of living should not have any adjustments, But state taxes should.

A player can somewhat avoid the cost of living as can the team, but state taxes can not be.

And i think state tax percentage is the way to go.

True, they will have some latitude, however, in order to get into a significantly lower housing/cost of living area, a player would have to live on the east side of the Altamont pass. The Livermore corridor is not much cheaper than the San Jose area. Unfortunately, the commute time would make locating in the Mountain House/Tracey area unworkable.

There's no reason for them to live near the facilities. It's not they work a normal 9-5 job.

The problem of commute time is still going to come up at some point.

To another poster: Any attempt to adjust state income taxes to accommodate millionaires is not going to get past the receptionist. If Jed wants to keep the team in this state he is going to have to be resigned to paying up to 15% more than other teams.

Mar 22, 2018 at 4:26 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
CA is sooo f**ked up.

Truth!

That's why I moved to Nevada.

Money can't buy consistent happiness

But it's going to have to buy electric cars in CA. Goodbye fossil fuels

[ Edited by VaBeachNiner on Mar 22, 2018 at 4:26 PM ]

Mar 22, 2018 at 8:51 PM

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This sort of thing is a big reason why Canadian baseball teams get screwed over in fa. None of the players want to go up there and pay the high taxes they have there. Can you imagine how hard it will be to field a competitive fb team in London?

Mar 30, 2018 at 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Bitplayer:
This sort of thing is a big reason why Canadian baseball teams get screwed over in fa. None of the players want to go up there and pay the high taxes they have there. Can you imagine how hard it will be to field a competitive fb team in London?

There is give and take though with CA. You get taxed but you live in some of the nicest, most buzzing cities in America with some of the best weather in the world.