Allen Robinson best FA WR

I'd do backflips if we got Robinson but I think it's very unlikely. I bet Jax puts the transition tag on him so they can match any offer. I personally would not want Landry for the $$$ he's going to get. Most of his receptions are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. He's going to get paid like a game changing WR which he isn't.

One name I'd keep an eye on that no one is really mentioning is Demaryius Thomas. I think there's a good chance he'll be cut or traded. If it's the latter, Lynch's relationship with Elway will be a factor.

Originally posted by Draftology:

I'd do backflips if we got Robinson but I think it's very unlikely. I bet Jax puts the transition tag on him so they can match any offer. I personally would not want Landry for the $$$ he's going to get. Most of his receptions are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. He's going to get paid like a game changing WR which he isn't.

One name I'd keep an eye on that no one is really mentioning is Demaryius Thomas. I think there's a good chance he'll be cut or traded. If it's the lmatter, Lynch's relationship with Elway will be a factor.

Totally agree...basically what I was saying about Landry you just say it nicer than I do . He's gonna command top dollar and he's not that game changing WR.

Yeah I've read about some issues with Thomas. I'd prefer he gets cut and not have to take on that contract.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Draftology:

I'd do backflips if we got Robinson but I think it's very unlikely. I bet Jax puts the transition tag on him so they can match any offer. I personally would not want Landry for the $$$ he's going to get. Most of his receptions are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. He's going to get paid like a game changing WR which he isn't.

One name I'd keep an eye on that no one is really mentioning is Demaryius Thomas. I think there's a good chance he'll be cut or traded. If it's the lmatter, Lynch's relationship with Elway will be a factor.

Totally agree...basically what I was saying about Landry you just say it nicer than I do . He's gonna command top dollar and he's not that game changing WR.

Yeah I've read about some issues with Thomas. I'd prefer he gets cut and not have to take on that contract.

Agreed on the Thomas contract. It's a little rich. I could definitely see him getting cut if they need to clear some cap room to make a run at Cousins.

Landry is the sure thing. Those that think he's slow or merely a slot WR are just mistaken. He's a top-10 WR in the league and a complete matchup problem. Yes, he's the best slot receiver in the league, but Miami used him outside as well.

Robinson is a bit of a risk. He had that breakout season, but so much of that was in garbage time. Go back and look how much of that was in the 4th quarter from behind. Bortles had some really inflated numbers because he saw so much prevent D late in games.

WR needs to be addressed this offseason. Garçon is older with neck issues and we saw Goodwin again get another concussion. These guys have some serious injuries and can't be relied on for a whole season and certainly not beyond next year.

Whether in FA or the draft, the position has to be addressed in the coming months. Taylor Gabriel seems like a no-brained for depth because he can play inside or outside for KS. He's not enough though. A high caliber guy is desired.

Even though he won't be cheap, I'll take Landry all day. You want to protect Jimmy? Give him some real weapons.

Originally posted by strickac:

Landry is the sure thing. Those that think he's slow or merely a slot WR are just mistaken. He's a top-10 WR in the league and a complete matchup problem. Yes, he's the best slot receiver in the league, but Miami used him outside as well.

Robinson is a bit of a risk. He had that breakout season, but so much of that was in garbage time. Go back and look how much of that was in the 4th quarter from behind. Bortles had some really inflated numbers because he saw so much prevent D late in games.

WR needs to be addressed this offseason. Garçon is older with neck issues and we saw Goodwin again get another concussion. These guys have some serious injuries and can't be relied on for a whole season and certainly not beyond next year.

Whether in FA or the draft, the position has to be addressed in the coming months. Taylor Gabriel seems like a no-brained for depth because he can play inside or outside for KS. He's not enough though. A high caliber guy is desired.

Even though he won't be cheap, I'll take Landry all day. You want to protect Jimmy? Give him some real weapons.

Agree to disagree it's not like Landry didn't pad stats in trash time while in Miami either. And Landry would not be taking the place of garcon and Goodwin, it would be Taylor.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Agree to disagree it's not like Landry didn't pad stats in trash time while in Miami either. And Landry would not be taking the place of garcon and Goodwin, it would be Taylor.

Possibly, but Landry can outperform all 3, regardless of where they line up. That would be a good problem to have though. That's a solid WR group and Landry would open things up for the other 2.

We'll see if Garçon even returns. Both he and Goodwin seem could be on their way out of football. Goodwin's latest concussion was nasty and Garçon broke a bone in his neck.

I wouldn't be mad at Robinson, but I don't think people appreciate how good Landry is.

Originally posted by strickac:

Landry is the sure thing. Those that think he's slow or merely a slot WR are just mistaken. He's a top-10 WR in the league and a complete matchup problem. Yes, he's the best slot receiver in the league, but Miami used him outside as well.

Robinson is a bit of a risk. He had that breakout season, but so much of that was in garbage time. Go back and look how much of that was in the 4th quarter from behind. Bortles had some really inflated numbers because he saw so much prevent D late in games.

WR needs to be addressed this offseason. Garçon is older with neck issues and we saw Goodwin again get another concussion. These guys have some serious injuries and can't be relied on for a whole season and certainly not beyond next year.

Whether in FA or the draft, the position has to be addressed in the coming months. Taylor Gabriel seems like a no-brained for depth because he can play inside or outside for KS. He's not enough though. A high caliber guy is desired.

Even though he won't be cheap, I'll take Landry all day. You want to protect Jimmy? Give him some real weapons.

Landry is not a bad player but no way is he a top 10 WR. I'm not going to list them out here but it's pretty easy to rattle off 10 that are better. He's going to get PAID and I don't think he dramatically improves our team.

Originally posted by strickac:

Possibly, but Landry can outperform all 3, regardless of where they line up. That would be a good problem to have though. That's a solid WR group and Landry would open things up for the other 2.

We'll see if Garçon even returns. Both he and Goodwin seem could be on their way out of football. Goodwin's latest concussion was nasty and Garçon broke a bone in his neck.

I wouldn't be mad at Robinson, but I don't think people appreciate how good Landry is.

I think Landry is an elite slot WR if garcon or Goodwin are on their way out of football like you said we still need a flanker and split end...Landry does not play those spots well, just doesn't man...He's played slot while Parker was the split end and stills was the flanker.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/jarvis-landrys-value-part-ii

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I think Landry is an elite slot WR if garcon or Goodwin are on their way out of football like you said we still need a flanker and split end...Landry does not play those spots well, just doesn't man...He's played slot while Parker was the split end and stills was the flanker.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/jarvis-landrys-value-part-ii

Tried to follow their logic, but they're nerding out a little too much. By their logic Hopkins falls behind Cobb, Sanders and Jackson. No way, Hopkins is top-3 and right there with Antonio and Julio IMO. I'd probably go with him as #2 in the NFL.

Looking at that list though, it's hard to find 10 guys better than Landry. He may line up in the slot 72% of the time (because Parker and Stills can't work the middle), but he makes plays all over the field. He's not just a 10 yard and sit down guy.

Originally posted by Draftology:

Landry is not a bad player but no way is he a top 10 WR. I'm not going to list them out here but it's pretty easy to rattle off 10 that are better. He's going to get PAID and I don't think he dramatically improves our team.

I'm curious who you'd rank above him. There's the usual 5 or 6 guys, but then there's a good argument that he's right there with the other handful of guys

Landry played the slot because of the route trees he can run, which is anything you'd ask for. Parker and stills are semi trick ponies, can't run those desired routes between the hashes in time.

Landry is a top 10 wr overall for sure. Runs all the routes, durable- tough, excellent hands, nightmare for defensive Coordinators.

Nyniner85 happens to be a professional d coordinator btw. So Landry isn't worth top dollar at his young age.

Granted bortles and cutler are both whatever, cutler isn't on bortles level. 31 other nfl teams would take bortles over cutler in a heartbeat, atleast bortles takes chances.

Landry has had the likes of cutler, Moore and tannehill

Robinson can out- jump some corners on a 50/50 lob ball? Garoppolo doesn't throw 50/50 lob balls, out coach doesn't call for 50/50 lob balls.

Ks likes high % throws, not your madden plays dude.