Allen Robinson best FA WR

Robinson better in the redzone?

Here's 2016s numbers.

Inside the 20

Robinson, 9 catches on 19 targets
Landry, 7 catches on 9 targets

Narrow it down to inside the 10

Robinson, 5 catches, 11 targets
Landry, 4 catches, 4 targets


Furthermore, this season, Landry developed into one of THE best redzone receiver in football.

Inside the 20

NFL leading 18 catches on 23 targets. Oh and 9 TDs. Only Jimmy Graham had more.

Inside the 10 is even better

NFL leading 11 catches on 14 targets with an NFL leading 9 TDs.

So this season Landry is the unquestioned best receiver in football in the redzone.

The explosion you hear is the Robinson being a better redzone target argument.

Originally posted by StatisticsGuru:

Robinson better in the redzone?

Here's 2016s numbers.

Inside the 20

Robinson, 9 catches on 19 targets
Landry, 7 catches on 9 targets

Narrow it down to inside the 10

Robinson, 5 catches, 11 targets
Landry, 4 catches, 4 targets


Furthermore, this season, Landry developed into one of THE best redzone receiver in football.

Inside the 20

NFL leading 18 catches on 23 targets. Oh and 9 TDs. Only Jimmy Graham had more.

Inside the 10 is even better

NFL leading 11 catches on 14 targets with an NFL leading 9 TDs.

So this season Landry is the unquestioned best receiver in football in the redzone.

The explosion you hear is the Robinson being a better redzone target argument.

Why you only using 2016 numbers?

Both have 22tds and Arob has done it with 186 LESS targets.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Why you only using 2016 numbers?

Both have 22tds and Arob has done it with 186 LESS targets.

That's not the redzone. He has 22 TDs factoring the whole field. 64% of his TDs came in one magical season.

Since they entered the league Landry has 19 redzone TDs to Robinson's 18. Considering the rest of the stats I already posted, it is clear that Landry is better in the redzone. That destroys one of the most often recited reasons the 49ers should sign Robinson instead of Landry.

^^^He's only using 2016 numbers because they're the numbers that best allow him to get to his desired conclusion.

Or, phrased in more of a downtown way, he's full of crap.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

^^^He's only using 2016 numbers because they're the numbers that best allow him to get to his desired conclusion.

Or, phrased in more of a downtown way, he's full of crap.

Cited 2017 stats too. Ya know, the most recent season, a season that Landry proved to be by far the best receiver in the league in the redzone.

Originally posted by StatisticsGuru:

64% of his TDs came in one magical season.

Dude, you're not allowed to thin slice out a single season in order to get you finger on the scale and then in the next post discount a different single season that doesn't fit your priors as not mattering because it's just "one magical season."

Seriously, either change your username or step your game up. This is super hacky.

Originally posted by StatisticsGuru:

That's not the redzone. He has 22 TDs factoring the whole field. 64% of his TDs came in one magical season.

Since they entered the league Landry has 19 redzone TDs to Robinson's 18. Considering the rest of the stats I already posted, it is clear that Landry is better in the redzone. That destroys one of the most often recited reasons the 49ers should sign Robinson instead of Landry.

I used red zone threat incorrectly...my bad you got me there. Landry scores 99% of his TDs in the red zone and that's about it.

I'll take a guy who's a threat to score whenever, which does include in the red zone as well.

Like I said 22 TDs for each guy...that includes Arob missed a whole yr of football and had 186 less targets to do it.

If you want a stud slot WR, Landry is your guy...if you want a outside WR that can score multiple ways Arob is that.

If I had to bet on them replacing/adding a outside WR vs replacing a rookie slot WR I'm going with the outside WR.

Robinson didn't play this season. Only reason it's even is because A Rob got hurt and missed an entire season.

Landry is no slouch but A Rob is better there.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:

Dude, you're not allowed to thin slice out a single season in order to get you finger on the scale and then in the next post discount a different single season that doesn't fit your priors as not mattering because it's just "one magical season."

Seriously, either change your username or step your game up. This is super hacky.

Or you can look at all my posts and responses here rather than cherry picking a post. I've cited stats in a multitude of ways. 2017, 2016, cumulative for their careers.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Robinson didn't play this season. A Rob has 20 TD's in his last 2 years, Landry had 17 in 3 seasons. Only reason it's even is because A Rob got hurt and missed an entire season.

Give it a rest A Rob is better there. Landry is no slouch though.

Give it a rest where? I'm talking redzone TDs. You cite overall TDs. Not the same thing nor the same argument. Multiple posters kept saying Robinson because he's better in the redzone and that's what the 49ers need. I have, at the very least, proven them to be equal there.

I am not in favor of the 49ers signing either. I think both are good WRs. All you Robinson fanboys don't want to look at something that, plain as day, dispels one of the biggest reasons you wanted Robinson. Get over it.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Robinson didn't play this season. A Rob has 20 TD's in his last 2 years, Landry had 17 in 3 seasons. Only reason it's even is because A Rob got hurt and missed an entire season.

Give it a rest A Rob is better there. Landry is no slouch though.

Originally posted by StatisticsGuru:

Give it a rest where? I'm talking redzone TDs. You cite overall TDs. Not the same thing nor the same argument. Multiple posters kept saying Robinson because he's better in the redzone and that's what the 49ers need. I have, at the very least, proven them to be equal there.

I am not in favor of the 49ers signing either. I think both are good WRs. All you Robinson fanboys don't want to look at something that, plain as day, dispels one of the biggest reasons you wanted Robinson. Get over it.

Already been posted by you it's 19 to 18 in favor of Landry. One has played in 64 games though the other 43. You proved Landry is a decent red zone threat who's played in more games. He's not better than A Rob there though. For a statistics guru you should of saw that.

I will concede that your 2017 argument is a strong one though.

Originally posted by StatisticsGuru:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Robinson didn't play this season. A Rob has 20 TD's in his last 2 years, Landry had 17 in 3 seasons. Only reason it's even is because A Rob got hurt and missed an entire season.

Give it a rest A Rob is better there. Landry is no slouch though.

Give it a rest where? I'm talking redzone TDs. You cite overall TDs. Not the same thing nor the same argument. Multiple posters kept saying Robinson because he's better in the redzone and that's what the 49ers need. I have, at the very least, proven them to be equal there.

I am not in favor of the 49ers signing either. I think both are good WRs. All you Robinson fanboys don't want to look at something that, plain as day, dispels one of the biggest reasons you wanted Robinson. Get over it.

I do agree people just look at players with size and think red zone target! While they are better at fade routes(which is one of the least completed passes in the game) and a good back shoulder is hard to defend. A quick out and slant with a rub are damn good routes that we have seen in Shanahans playbook this season.

Originally posted by StatisticsGuru:

Give it a rest where? I'm talking redzone TDs. You cite overall TDs. Not the same thing nor the same argument. Multiple posters kept saying Robinson because he's better in the redzone and that's what the 49ers need. I have, at the very least, proven them to be equal there.

I am not in favor of the 49ers signing either. I think both are good WRs. All you Robinson fanboys don't want to look at something that, plain as day, dispels one of the biggest reasons you wanted Robinson. Get over it.

Dispels what? He's still solid in the red-zone and can score from anywhere. Hopkins had a clutch percentage of 47% in the red zone (in-side the 20) this yr...Arob had the same percentage in 2016 (same as mike Evans in 2016, better than OBJ in 2016 and Keenan Allen this yr)...you telling me you wouldn't want any of those WRs lol?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Dispels what? He's still solid in the red-zone and can score from anywhere. Hopkins had a clutch percentage of 47% in the red zone (in-side the 20) this yr...Arob had the same percentage in 2016 (same as mike Evans in 2016, better than OBJ in 2016 and Keenan Allen this yr)...you telling me you wouldn't want any of those WRs lol?

Bigger target so yeah obviously they're going to see more toss ups and a lower percentage. You're not going to throw fades to Trent Taylor.

BTW I'm fine with adding Landry. Garcon, Goodwin are the outside receivers for the next 2 years so Landry would see a sizable role as slot.