Cam Newton

Originally posted by strickac:
He's right though. It's ironic/funny that a woman, or the average journalist, is pressing professional athletes and asking finite details about something they know little about. Same in any sport. We see it with MMA all the time.

No one would've thought twice about this a 10 years ago. Now everyone is so defensive and sensitive. Our society loves to find an opportunity to label someone: a racist, sexist, fascist, bigot, prejudice... who f**king cares.

True that.
Media is making him look like public enemy no.1. ESPN need to stop acting like CNN and go back to sports analysis.

I've been seeing female reporters talk about football in depth for pretty much my entire adult life, so I'm a bit confused as to why Cam acted to surprised.

Its 2017 not 1990.

lets be serious... you cant say that s**t with the platform they have. Of course we can cuz we are regular people who watch celebrities. Cam cant be so dumb.

Originally posted by Stevec9932:
lets be serious... you cant say that s**t with the platform they have. Of course we can cuz we are regular people who watch celebrities. Cam cant be so dumb.

he can...he'll just lose his sponsor

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

I've been seeing female reporters talk about football in depth for pretty much my entire adult life, so I'm a bit confused as to why Cam acted to surprised.

Its 2017 not 1990.

Most of the sideline reporters do injury updates and quick interviews with coaches as they run to the locker room at halftime with general questions like "how are you going to stop Tom Brady in the second half".

I mean, in the NBA I like Doris Burke and Ros Gold-Onwude (especially Ros seeing she was a basketball player) but in the NFL I haven't seen many women get analytical. I mean, who? Erin Andrews? What is she going to say in the booth without a script?

Lesley Visser? Great reporter but is that the norm? She made it to the NFL hall of fame. She had a lot of good general questions in her interviews. Not much in term of routes, formations etc.


Samantha Ponder being married to a NFL QB perhaps makes her one of the more organically informed sideline reporters. She did college football too. She probably really likes football and would be around it if it weren't her job. Get her in the booth. Lets see how she does.


Beth Mowins is generally knowledgeable but this years broadcast team of Mowins/Ryan was a tad annoying. She's about the only other female I've seen with organic football knowledge, as in, wouldn't need a script, teleprompter or lines written in advance for more detailed analysis. Ahe would probably be around the game if it weren't her job. That's what I mean when I say organic football knowledge.


When it's just a persons job there's not really that underline passion for the game. The NFL has hired a lot of female reporters who see it as a job. Men do too but the vast majority of men in the booth and sports media have an organic love of the game they cover and could probably talk sports, in great detail, for hours. Not because men are smarter and women are incapable but because men are generally REALLY into sports. That love of the game tends to translate into better informed broadcasters/reporters. Nothing to do with X/Y chromosomes, biology or a persons sex.

But it makes some people feel much better to scream "sexism!" and virtue signal their way into good standing in the eyes of others.

(*cough Russ Wilson *cough)

Cam didn't do anything worthy of all this outrage. There are far worse people out there doing far worse things. He's still a good guy, still worthy of endorsements etc and shouldn't have to endure extreme social shaming or loss of income over his harmless comments.

Cam picked the right time to be an a*****e because there is a bigger concern looming over the NFL.

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:
But it makes some people feel much better to scream "sexism!" and virtue signal their way into good standing in the eyes of others.

(*cough Russ Wilson *cough)

Cam didn't do anything worthy of all this outrage. There are far worse people out there doing far worse things. He's still a good guy, still worthy of endorsements etc and shouldn't have to endure extreme social shaming or loss of income over his harmless comments.

Wilson is a huge cuck and a phony good guy.

Originally posted by cali2COniner:
I can't stand Newton. Arrogant a..hole

This x 2. Ever since he took that suck-attack after losing the SB, I've cheered against him.

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Wilson is a huge cuck and a phony good guy.

this I believe. He's gonna go wayward eventually...

Originally posted by Morgan49:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Wilson is a huge cuck and a phony good guy.

this I believe. He's gonna go wayward eventually...

TMZ is gonna film him with his boyfriend. Nothing no wrong with that, but for someone like him it'll be crushing.

Cam is just goofy, and has no filter. Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

Whether or not it's true that most women have at best a rudimentary understanding of football (it's true), what he said was very insensitive and offensive. His comment was pointedly derisive--women on average not knowing as much about sports is probably to their credit: they're not obsessive nerds like us. And he specifically said it to a female sports reporter, so on a direct level he insinuated she's unqualified for her job because she is a woman. That is exactly what sexism is. Cam was negative stereotyping, which is simply hurtful and/or uncomfortable to hear.

I had an experience at work the other day where a white co-worker (I'm white too) kept complaining about his tasks, calling it "Mexican work." Whether or not it is common in California for Mexicans to do that sort of work, his complaining painted a negative stereotype since he was insinuating the work was beneath him but fit for a Mexican. I found myself deeply disturbed by his words, and I told my boss I will not work around him anymore. (I think he was let go as a result. He was a temp.) That kind of stuff is simply hateful, and regardless of the target of the hate or the nature of the stereotype, it is disturbing to hear.

I don't think Cam is a horrible dude or anything, but he needs to understand on a human level why what he said is offensive. I also question his intelligence for thinking he could say something like that at the podium without damaging his public image.

THIS IS LAME!! I can guurentee you if CAM Started talking about "GIRL MAKE UP" she would be offended or feel sexually haarrased.

I love me some Cam but that was a dumb thing to say. We have a female assistant coach in the NFL in 2017.

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I've been seeing female reporters talk about football in depth for pretty much my entire adult life, so I'm a bit confused as to why Cam acted to surprised.

Its 2017 not 1990.

Most of the sideline reporters do injury updates and quick interviews with coaches as they run to the locker room at halftime with general questions like "how are you going to stop Tom Brady in the second half".

I mean, in the NBA I like Doris Burke and Ros Gold-Onwude (especially Ros seeing she was a basketball player) but in the NFL I haven't seen many women get analytical. I mean, who? Erin Andrews? What is she going to say in the booth without a script?

Lesley Visser? Great reporter but is that the norm? She made it to the NFL hall of fame. She had a lot of good general questions in her interviews. Not much in term of routes, formations etc.

Samantha Ponder being married to a NFL QB perhaps makes her one of the more organically informed sideline reporters. She did college football too. She probably really likes football and would be around it if it weren't her job. Get her in the booth. Lets see how she does.

Beth Mowins is generally knowledgeable but this years broadcast team of Mowins/Ryan was a tad annoying. She's about the only other female I've seen with organic football knowledge, as in, wouldn't need a script, teleprompter or lines written in advance for more detailed analysis. Ahe would probably be around the game if it weren't her job. That's what I mean when I say organic football knowledge.

When it's just a persons job there's not really that underline passion for the game. The NFL has hired a lot of female reporters who see it as a job. Men do too but the vast majority of men in the booth and sports media have an organic love of the game they cover and could probably talk sports, in great detail, for hours. Not because men are smarter and women are incapable but because men are generally REALLY into sports. That love of the game tends to translate into better informed broadcasters/reporters. Nothing to do with X/Y chromosomes, biology or a persons sex.

I'm not talking about sideline reporters. Like I said its 2017, not 1990. It was a weird comment by Cam.