Free Agency Rumors/Pending Signings

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

Originally posted by SoCold:
Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What happens to Kap's future revenue potential if he doesn't put forth the effort here?

Originally posted by MeddlingKids:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What happens to Kap's future revenue potential if he doesn't put forth the effort here?

Well if the 49ers really want to force him to be here then they will keep paying him.

His contract is guaranteed after 4/1/16. All he has to do is show up everyday to collect a check. He can throw 47 interceptions and still get paid $11.9m.

Next year that sum is $14.5m guaranteed on 4/1/17.

$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

He's getting paid if he tries hard or not lol
He can be the worst QB in the league the next 3 years and take home $31.6m

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What leads you to believe he will pass the physical? time table is 4-6 months and he had it done in January...it's not like he had one surgery, he had three separate surgeries. Just because he played through some pain doesn't mean doctors clear him in April.

I agree we need to wait before we declare him unhealthy, but no way both sides to just pass him or fail him unless they are completely certain one way or the other...there wayyy too much cash on the line.

Originally posted by SoCold:
Well if the 49ers really want to force him to be here then they will keep paying him.

His contract is guaranteed after 4/1/16. All he has to do is show up everyday to collect a check. He can throw 47 interceptions and still get paid $11.9m.

Next year that sum is $14.5m guaranteed on 4/1/17.

$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

He's getting paid if he tries hard or not lol
He can be the worst QB in the league the next 3 years and take home $31.6m

I should have rephrased my question. If we can't find a reasonable trade value for Kap and decide to keep him on the roster this year, it's in Kap's best interest to put forth full effort. If he doesn't, his perceived value from other teams will decline throughout 2016 compared to what it is now. We will then either cut him outright before April 1, after which he will have his choice of sub $10M/year average contracts from several interested suitors, or trade him to a team that will ask him to restructure his contract to a sub $10M/year average. On the other hand, if he tries, he has the opportunity to win a starting job again and either remain with the team making $14.5M or getting traded (assuming he plays decent enough but not "lights out") to a team that might find his contract more feasible (or at least restructure him at the market rate for a starter).

In short, I don't see any scenario where we force Kap to play on the 49ers next year and he doesn't put the effort in.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What leads you to believe he will pass the physical? time table is 4-6 months and he had it done in January...it's not like he had one surgery, he had three separate surgeries. Just because he played through some pain doesn't mean doctors clear him in April.

I agree we need to wait before we declare him unhealthy, but no way both sides to just pass him or fail him unless they are completely certain one way or the other...there wayyy too much cash on the line.

All of those words I just wrote up there.

Originally posted by SoCold:
Well if the 49ers really want to force him to be here then they will keep paying him.

His contract is guaranteed after 4/1/16. All he has to do is show up everyday to collect a check. He can throw 47 interceptions and still get paid $11.9m.

Next year that sum is $14.5m guaranteed on 4/1/17.

$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

He's getting paid if he tries hard or not lol
He can be the worst QB in the league the next 3 years and take home $31.6m

I'm sure that would do wonders for his career to half ass his way through training camp/2016 season and collect checks...might as well kiss his career goodbye.

no he can't be the worst QB for the next three years and collect all that cash because once the end of the season hits every year he can be cut with no guaranteed money...Worst case scenario is we do to him what Washington did to RG3 this past year then release him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Well if the 49ers really want to force him to be here then they will keep paying him.

His contract is guaranteed after 4/1/16. All he has to do is show up everyday to collect a check. He can throw 47 interceptions and still get paid $11.9m.

Next year that sum is $14.5m guaranteed on 4/1/17.

$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

He's getting paid if he tries hard or not lol
He can be the worst QB in the league the next 3 years and take home $31.6m

I'm sure that would do wonders for his career to half ass his way through training camp/2016 season and collect checks...might as well kiss his career goodbye.

no he can't be the worst QB for the next three years and collect all that cash because once the end of the season hits every year he can be cut with no guaranteed money...Worst case scenario is we do to him what Washington did to RG3 this past year then release him.

and that's exactly the point of cutting him 2 weeks from now

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What leads you to believe he will pass the physical? time table is 4-6 months and he had it done in January...it's not like he had one surgery, he had three separate surgeries. Just because he played through some pain doesn't mean doctors clear him in April.

I agree we need to wait before we declare him unhealthy, but no way both sides to just pass him or fail him unless they are completely certain one way or the other...there wayyy too much cash on the line.

All of those words I just wrote up there.

no facts just your opinions okay

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What leads you to believe he will pass the physical? time table is 4-6 months and he had it done in January...it's not like he had one surgery, he had three separate surgeries. Just because he played through some pain doesn't mean doctors clear him in April.

I agree we need to wait before we declare him unhealthy, but no way both sides to just pass him or fail him unless they are completely certain one way or the other...there wayyy too much cash on the line.

All of those words I just wrote up there.

no facts just your opinions okay

uh so Matt Barrows is a liar is that what you're saying? He said none of his injuries would prevent him from passing a physical when the time comes.

lol

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What leads you to believe he will pass the physical? time table is 4-6 months and he had it done in January...it's not like he had one surgery, he had three separate surgeries. Just because he played through some pain doesn't mean doctors clear him in April.

I agree we need to wait before we declare him unhealthy, but no way both sides to just pass him or fail him unless they are completely certain one way or the other...there wayyy too much cash on the line.

All of those words I just wrote up there.

no facts just your opinions okay

uh so Matt Barrows is a liar is that what you're saying? He said none of his injuries would prevent him from passing a physical when the time comes.

lol

He didn't say anything about passing a physical in 2 weeks LOL he said his injuries aren't serious! Please provide me a quote from Barrows saying Kap WILL in fact pass his physical on 4/1 and I will completely agree with you no problem.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Well if the 49ers really want to force him to be here then they will keep paying him.

His contract is guaranteed after 4/1/16. All he has to do is show up everyday to collect a check. He can throw 47 interceptions and still get paid $11.9m.

Next year that sum is $14.5m guaranteed on 4/1/17.

$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

He's getting paid if he tries hard or not lol
He can be the worst QB in the league the next 3 years and take home $31.6m

I'm sure that would do wonders for his career to half ass his way through training camp/2016 season and collect checks...might as well kiss his career goodbye.

no he can't be the worst QB for the next three years and collect all that cash because once the end of the season hits every year he can be cut with no guaranteed money...Worst case scenario is we do to him what Washington did to RG3 this past year then release him.

and that's exactly the point of cutting him 2 weeks from now

Baalke already stated he was gonna be on the roster come April 1st...

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He didn't say anything about passing a physical in 2 weeks LOL he said his injuries aren't serious! Please provide me a quote from Barrows saying Kap WILL in fact pass his physical on 4/1 and I will completely agree with you no problem.

Right. Oh, and by the way, Matt Barrows isn't a doctor. He's a beat writer who blasts stale news over his twitter feed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Either way, the team can cut him prior to April 1st and save that money. Nothing I've seen, read, or heard says otherwise. If you have something that says that we have to pay him regardless, please provide link.

Just Google Kaepernick and injury. No one's gonna bother to post a link to old news if you won't even Google it yourself. It's been out there for months.

Then why are so many dudes in here posting crap that's not true?

As the numbers trickled out, it was recognized that the segmented deal gave the 49ers a litany of eject buttons. And they can easily separate this offseason so long as Kaepernick doesn't suffer a catastrophic injury that guarantees his 2016 salary. So long as they cut ties prior to April 1, the 49ers won't be responsible for anything but the remainder of his prorated signing bonus, which would amount to roughly $7.4 million. After the numbers are crunched, they could cut him at a salary-cap savings of $6.9 million next year. And, poof, the contract is gone.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/this-is-why-49ers-built-colin-kaepernick-s--126m-deal-in-such-shrewd-fashion-041603581.html

Lets look at the injuries.

Torn shoulder muscle (non throwing shoulder). - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
The guy played many games with the injury it will not keep him from passing a physical.

Knee bruise minor cartilage damage. - Surgery was a success to scope the knee and clear the cartilage causing pain.
Players come back from a knee scope in a couple week. This will not keep him from passing a physical.

Torn hand ligament (throwing hand), - Surgery was a success. Rehab in progress.
It may keep him from throwing the ball 80mph but will not prevent him from passing a physical.

Per Matt Barrows yesterday.
- Kap may not "pass" a physical today but moving forward his injuries are not serious.

So lets stop talking about him not passing the physical until he actually fails a physical its of no concern. Unless he falls down some stairs or something nothing leads anyone to believe he will not pass a physical in the next 2 weeks.

Fact: The 49ers can save money by cutting him prior to April 1st. It is why the have it written into his contract every year, to protect the team.

They can still keep him. Put the $11.9m on the books and hope they can trade him. Problem is the teams that want him don't think he's worth that much so taking over his contract seems unlikely. So the 49ers would be stuck with him and be paying a lot of money to a guy you don't know for sure will be your starting QB and need to go through all of this same mess again next year if he's still on the roster.

From a team standpoint if they can't get a decent draft pick for him it would be better to keep him. Problem he doesn't want to be here and how hard would he be willing to work for a team he doesn't want to be on is a concern.

What leads you to believe he will pass the physical? time table is 4-6 months and he had it done in January...it's not like he had one surgery, he had three separate surgeries. Just because he played through some pain doesn't mean doctors clear him in April.

I agree we need to wait before we declare him unhealthy, but no way both sides to just pass him or fail him unless they are completely certain one way or the other...there wayyy too much cash on the line.

All of those words I just wrote up there.

no facts just your opinions okay

uh so Matt Barrows is a liar is that what you're saying? He said none of his injuries would prevent him from passing a physical when the time comes.

lol

He didn't say anything about passing a physical in 2 weeks LOL he said his injuries aren't serious! Please provide me a quote from Barrows saying Kap WILL in fact pass his physical on 4/1 and I will completely agree with you no problem.

well if his injuries are not serious why would he fail a physical?

No. Why don't you ask Matt yourself if you're so concerned about it.

I just brought up the fact of WHAT IF he couldn't pass a physical yesterday and know some of you just want to roll with the idea he won't pass one.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Well if the 49ers really want to force him to be here then they will keep paying him.

His contract is guaranteed after 4/1/16. All he has to do is show up everyday to collect a check. He can throw 47 interceptions and still get paid $11.9m.

Next year that sum is $14.5m guaranteed on 4/1/17.

$5.2M of 2018 salary fully guarantees on 4/1/18

He's getting paid if he tries hard or not lol
He can be the worst QB in the league the next 3 years and take home $31.6m

I'm sure that would do wonders for his career to half ass his way through training camp/2016 season and collect checks...might as well kiss his career goodbye.

no he can't be the worst QB for the next three years and collect all that cash because once the end of the season hits every year he can be cut with no guaranteed money...Worst case scenario is we do to him what Washington did to RG3 this past year then release him.

and that's exactly the point of cutting him 2 weeks from now

Baalke already stated he was gonna be on the roster come April 1st...

OMG and he's been actively trying to trade him lol. If he's on the roster after April 1st it just makes it that much harder to trade him.

Do you have a Kap jersey you don't want to part with or something?