The "We can't think of a good name for the Jon Baldwin thread" thread | Page 6

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Ballistic
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Evan Silva &rlm;@evansilva
#Chiefs QB Alex Smith has 14 completions in preseason. 12 to RBs & TEs. 2 completions to WR (both McCluster). Bowe 1 target, incomplete.

So is this why Baldwin has not had a good preseason or has he just been not good?

it's not just that, he hasn't been contributing since he got drafted

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Aug 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

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GNS1310
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Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard4m
Belichick told Dimitroff that Jon Baldwin was just as good as Julio Jones in @michaelsholley's "War Room"

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

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Originally posted by Jcool:
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
#Chiefs QB Alex Smith has 14 completions in preseason. 12 to RBs & TEs. 2 completions to WR (both McCluster). Bowe 1 target, incomplete.

So is this why Baldwin has not had a good preseason or has he just been not good?

Might be an apples to oranges thing but Kap hasn't thrown many passes to WR's either. Granted his PT is lower but still.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

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Cooper22
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It's weird.. The big knock on Baldwin is his hands but that was his biggest strength coming out of college

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

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ElDannMann
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Well, a bust for a bust. Interesting.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

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OKC49erFan
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
#Chiefs QB Alex Smith has 14 completions in preseason. 12 to RBs & TEs. 2 completions to WR (both McCluster). Bowe 1 target, incomplete.

So is this why Baldwin has not had a good preseason or has he just been not good?

Baldwin had several targets in the last pre-season game.
A couple right in the numbers, just couldn't make the catches.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

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I would bet that Baldwin is atleast cheaper to cut than AJ Jenkins. But I'm not too savy when it comes to the cap.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

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Originally posted by Ballistic:
combine scouting report:

6'4", 230lbs

42" vertical

4.5 40 yd dash

129" broad jump

OVERVIEW
Baldwin is giant wide receiver that has the potential to develop into a starter at the next level. He is a speed builder that can get behind defensive backs and he quickly finds the ball in the air. He is a weapon over the middle, as he has strong reliable hands and the body control to make acrobatic catches in traffic. He is dangerous after the catch as he can run away from linebackers and over defensive backs. Baldwin has to refine his route running skills, but he could sneak into the first round due to his freakish measurables.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Baldwin is a huge receiver with deceptive speed. Long strider that can stretch the field and shows the ability to consistently track the ball in the air. Possesses excellent hands and high points the ball very well. Strong runner after the catch that breaks arm tackles and flashes a vicious stiff arm. Fearless over the middle.

WEAKNESSES
Sloppy route runner that struggles to separate from quicker defensive backs. Takes too many false steps in transition and does not always find soft spots in zone coverage. Does not have enough wiggle to make defenders miss in the open field. Not exactly a willing run blocker and will occasionally take plays off.

JJ Stokes part 2?

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

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buck
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OK. If this is true, it ends the big debate. But, it probably starts another one.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

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7/29/2011: Signed a four-year, $7.552 million contract. The deal included a $3.992 million signing bonus. 2013: $1,061,510 (+ $130,000 workout bonus), 2014: $1,274,765, 2015: Free Agent
This move had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with getting rid of a lot of dead weight while incurring minimal salary cap penalties. Well played Baalke, extremely well played.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

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LAFortyNinerfan
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Hahaha we traded little aj Jenkins for big aj Jenkins.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

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MrOrange
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based purely on production, we domintated this trade plus I remember reading that Baldwin was starting to show flashes near the end of last year.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

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cwilson830
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Originally posted by Shorteous:
I would bet that Baldwin is atleast cheaper to cut than AJ Jenkins. But I'm not too savy when it comes to the cap.

Baldwin would cost over a million to cut. Not gonna happen.

Aug 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

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Aug 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

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Originally posted by Thechad49:
Pretty shocking. Wow!! I hope this trade doesn't back fire : /

I don't know how it could backfire since Jenkins has done literally nothing for the team so far. Jenkins couldn't even do anything in preseason. It was probably getting close to the Eric Wright situation for TB, where he was going to get released unless they could find a trade partner.